A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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I'd forgotten that Bob Seger co-wrote "Heartache Tonight"; he showed up to sing it at the Kennedy Center Honors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxbwqTideE8

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Z86MLah.gif

pplains, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

HEARTACHE TONIGHT
GLENN: …and then they sold 12 million records, and everything changed! As Bob Dylan said, “They deceived me into thinking I had something to protect.” And that’s what happened with us. We made it, and it ate us. The Long Run became, indeed, the long run. It was a difficult record to make overall, but I loved “Heartache Tonight.” Whenever Bob Seger was in L.A., he always used to come over and visit me, and he’d visit Don, too, and play us stuff he was working on — and we would do the same. I seem to remember that I had the verse thing going on for “Heartache Tonight,” and I was showing it to Seger, and we were jammin’ — I think we were jammin’ on electric guitars at LaFontaine — and then he blurted out the chorus. That’s how “Heartache” started. Then Bob disappeared, and J.D., Don, and I finished that song up. No heavy lyrics — the song is more of a romp — and that’s what it was intended to be.

One of the revelations from the solo listening thread was that away from Henley & Seger, Glen couldn't write a meat and potatoes rocker to save his ass.

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

uh wait -- you don't like "Party Town"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

KEYSERSOZE1965 11 months ago
My local rock station WJMX used to play this every Friday afternoon at 5:00 to signal the start of the weekend. Rest in Peace Glenn.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

XP: It's no "Chug All Night".

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

It'll never end...

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/eagles-vince-gill/

In addition to the previously reported addition of Deacon Frey, who will step into the spot left vacant with the passing of his father Glenn, the group will be joined by veteran country artist Vince Gill. The Los Angeles Times reports that Gill will split vocal duties with the younger Frey on Glenn’s songs.

Eagles co-founder Don Henley, who earlier referred to Deacon’s entrance as a modern musical version of the old “guild system, where the father is the master and the son is the apprentice,” admitted that he viewed the group as finished after Glenn’s passing, but quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson while exercising his right to change his mind: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

Eagles co-founder Don Henley, who earlier referred to Deacon’s entrance as a modern musical version of the old “guild system, where the father is the master and the son is the apprentice,” admitted that he viewed the group as finished after Glenn’s passing, but quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson while exercising his right to change his mind: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

oh shut the fuck up

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

what a fuckin tool

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

...viewed the group as finished after Frey's passing but remembered the fat stacks of cash he loved so much & decided he had been too hasty

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

young female eagles fan: but i'm 17 and you're 70. gross.

don: think of it as the old guild system, where i am the master and you are the apprentice.

fan: seriously?

ghost of glenn: well, yeah.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

"I thought the Eagles were finished, but then I realized, wait, if the Eagles aren't touring, how will I get paid more money than Don Felder?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

Deacon, huh

Turn up the Eagles; the neighbors are listening

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

"who else can I add to the band & bully in a way that would make Glenn proud"

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

I was on a image search for sons of the current Eagles (when I realized wtf am I doing? and stopped.)

Besides that photo above, also discovered that Henley is only the 4th richest drummer. Without looking, can you name the top 3?

pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

the eagles are turning into the justice society of america

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

I was on a image search for sons of the current Eagles (when I realized wtf am I doing? and stopped.)

Besides that photo above, also discovered that Henley is only the 4th richest drummer. Without looking, can you name the top 3?

I'd say

Ringo
Lars
Uhhhhh... Neil Peart?

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Grohl

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

Phil Collins

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

gary young

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

Ringo, Phil & Dave.

pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link

...and Ringo says he's sorry.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

I always wonder about the sources for lists like this. Is Grohl really richer than Larry Mullen, who's been doing megatours with the most popular live band in the world for decades and, due to the way they split songwriting credits, gets publishing royalties for every one of their songs?

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that struck me as odd, too. And surely Charlie Watts has more dough than Grohl?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link

The saddest story ever told:
For sale, one cut rock tooth never used

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Henley came in 4th despite having the biggest album ever and <literally> being Satan.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

The last sentence here is what might make this list so questionable: The figures contained in this list were acquired from all publicly available information including salaries, real estate holdings, divorces, record sales, royalties and endorsements. The final net worths come from a formula that takes out taxes, manager's fees, agents' fees, and lifestyle.

#1: Ringo Starr – $300 Million (The Beatles)
#2: Dave Grohl – $260 Million (Nirvana, Foo Fighters)
#3: Phil Collins – $250 Million (Solo, Genesis)
#4: Don Henley – $200 Million (The Eagles)
#5: Lars Ulrich – $200 Million (Metallica)
#6: Charlie Watts – $170 Million (The Rolling Stones)
#7: Roger Taylor – $170 Million (Queen)
#8: Larry Mullen Jr – $150 Million (U2)
#9: Joey Kramer – $100 Million (Aerosmith)
#10: Nick Mason – $100 Million (Pink Floyd)

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/30-richest-drummers-world/

pplains, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

Still baffled at Grohl's wealth, unless he's like some kind of secret slimeball real estate speculator or something. Or maybe he gets paid a bundle to be an HIV truther.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link

He leads and writes all the songs for one of the most consistently popular rock bands for the last 20 years, and was also in a legacy band that has three or four popular catalog albums for starters.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

Sure, the Foo Fighters had a bunch of top 10 albums in the US, but only three top 40 hits. I dunno, that doesn't seem like enough to be second to Ringo. Do they really sell out tours? I always envisioned them playing 2/3rds-full mid-level arenas.

And does he have writing credit on Nirvana songs? Because I can't see him making more from Nirvana albums than Watts does from Stones records (though the shitty Klein deal likely means he makes a lot less than he should off the early stuff).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

IIRC, he's included on some group compositions, but his real Nirvana money comes from sales royalties (they had a great low-advance deal with DGC--Novecelic paid off a whole 30-year mortgage a few months after Nevermind blew up) and merchandising.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

Grohl got credit on Nevermind. All did.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

Ah, ok, that makes a little more sense.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

XP That's some serious $$$ there then. As for the Foos, they're one of those bands like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers whom one probably don't think about much, but are still consistently big on the remaining rock radio outlets, their albums do well out of the gate, and they have an audience big enough to still support headlining large arena/shed tours.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6eByG2q.jpg

Are we all just pretending that No. 9 isn't there or what?

http://i.imgur.com/yqH0Vo8.jpg

pplains, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link

The last sentence here is what might make this list so questionable: The figures contained in this list were acquired from all publicly available information including salaries, real estate holdings, divorces, record sales, royalties and endorsements. The final net worths come from a formula that takes out taxes, manager's fees, agents' fees, and lifestyle.

tbh the first sentence makes it questionable too. the only reliable public record in that entire sentence is record sales. and even if you could somehow get the rest of the info, how anyone could translate royalty figures, endorsements, etc., over the years into a believable estimate of someone's net worth at any given point of time is beyond me. at best, they're guessing.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 2 June 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.houstonpress.com/music/long-after-the-eagles-don-felder-is-still-soaring-9581454

Mainly of interest for:

When Glenn Frey died rather unexpectedly in January 2016, relations had not changed. But it still came as a shock to Felder, who found out about it after landing at LAX airport when his then-girlfriend’s phone started “blowing up.”

Felder had come back from Mexico, where he had been playing with Billy Gibbons, Dave Grohl and Sammy Hagar at a club. When his girlfriend leaned over and said “Glenn’s dead,” the guitarist thought she meant Glen Campbell, who Felder knew and has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for some time.

When he told her that wasn’t a surprise, she informed him, “No, Glenn Frey.” And even then, Felder says he thought it was an Internet hoax until it started appearing all over the news, though it was still a shock.

and the photos, wherein somehow Felder has turned into Joe Bonnamassa's Dad

https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/blog/9581461/hou_mus_donfeldermain.jpg

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

I almost forgot, but when I went to see Tom Petty last month, Joe Walsh opened for him. At one point in his set, he said, "This one is for my brother and bandmate, Glenn Frey." He then proceeded to play "Take It To The Limit," which is almost inextricably associated with Randy Meisner. It was either a heartfelt tribute, epic trollery, or some combination.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

That's like the one non-Joe Walsh song that Joe Walsh would probably sing pretty good on. (until the high parts.)

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/QDGT5I5.jpg

Don't where else to work this in, but every day I walk past this plaque and every day, I sing "Spent the last year, Count Pulaski Way..."

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

what did Don 'n' Glenn think of Tom Petty?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

xxp Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

xp glenn probably thought petty was an asshole since felder gave the young petty gtr lessons

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

DON: Some years after we all had made our ways to California, Tom Petty and his great band the Heartbreakers followed the trail, setting up shop in the mid-70s with a number of lighthearted Rock'n'Roll records that were fine companions to our own, less serious work. Later on, Mike Campbell and drummer Stan Lynch would be some of my best collaborators as I stepped out of the shadow of the Eagles and started making my own hit records.

GLENN: We never let Tom forget that while he had the the song, we had the PHDs in "Making it last all night" with "American Girl"s!

DON: Well, yeah.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.),

Randy Meisner had a Glenn Frey asshole section waiting, so the pressure was on him to avoid being hit by Frey.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

still lol at the thought of Henley grabbing Stan Lynch's legal pad and correcting his grammar and punctuation

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

when i was a younger fact checking cuz, i spent some time on the phone with henley going over a transcript of a q&a that a reporter at my site did with him. henley had demanded to see the transcript because he was appalled that we had sent a woman in her early 20s to interview henley the great and powerful. first he sent me a copy-edited version of the transcript, with his own proofreading marks on them. not even remotely surprisingly, dude knows his proofreading symbols. then he got on the phone with me to argue hyphens, dashes and semicolons before something else ticked him off and he hung up on me. top-five highlight of my fact checking life.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

Did he know punctuation?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link


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