Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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everyone needs a break. it'll probably slow down soon anyway due to christmas and NYE and whatnot

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

Has there been a single day in the past six+ months when Trump did not say or do something stupid or alarming?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

It was definitely stupid and alarming the day he won the presidency

Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

he was pretty good at it during the last 10 days of the campaign, when his handlers took his phone away from him (lol)

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

If no phone is around to write a tweet, does it make a sound?

Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

As much as I am enjoying these anonymously sourced stories in a single publication (more or less) about Trump's inability to book any act of consequence for his inauguration, I've been disappointed by the way so few of these imminent humiliations have panned out. Which will make it extra wonderful should this imminent humiliation pan out.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

i don't see why kid rock wouldn't do it. he is already selling shirts calling red states 'the united states of america' and blue states 'dumbfuckistan'. maybe he's not an act of consequence these days

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Would be even better if a desperate Trump still bumps Kid Rock because you know... it's Kid Rock.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure Kid Rock and Ted Nugent are on board, the question is whether the stuffy GOP people want them for their fancy balls. Maybe Trump will open up the White House to the public a la Andrew Jackson, because the only ones who would be excited about Rock and the Nuge would be riffraff walking in off the streets.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

that kind of elitism is a dead end, JiC

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 December 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

btw "dumbfuckistan" started as a snobby liberal thing to say during the W years

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 22 December 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

If you can't be elitist about Nugent and his fans, the war is already lost.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

If you can't be elitist about Nugent and his fans, the war is already lost.

To paraphrase Emma Goldman, if I can't air guitar to "Stranglehold," I don't want to be part of your revolution.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 23 December 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

I make an exception for "Stranglehold." I was just talking to a friend yesterday how I would be cool with that played at the inauguration for, like, 30 hours. From there to his other "hits" it's a pretty steep drop.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

OK, so "Dumbfuckistan" is the country that was attacked on 9/11??

Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Friday, 23 December 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

I think you're confusing it with Redneckistan.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

Not to be confused with Cucksembourg

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 December 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

Sorry if this has been posted already, thread moves too quickly for me. Anyway, this piece is great and very useful, esp in relation to recent conversation itt.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/12/bad-ways-to-criticize-trump

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 23 December 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

Donald J. Trump
Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
The so-called "A" list celebrities are all wanting tixs to the inauguration, but look what they did for Hillary, NOTHING. I want the PEOPLE

Poor guy, no one wants to be his friend :(

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

Get your Andrew Jackson on and open up the White House for the party

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:39 (seven years ago) link

I want the PEOPLE
Their tears are DELICIOUS

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

i can't identify a single Nugent track, that's how cool i am

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

Sorry if this has been posted already, thread moves too quickly for me. Anyway, this piece is great and very useful, esp in relation to recent conversation itt.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/12/bad-ways-to-criticize-trump

going after John Oilver seems a bit misguided. he does a half-hour comedy show, I dunno what you want from him (for the record, he HAS gone after all the things mentioned in this article). but Hillary's campaign not using the ads with the contractors will always be baffling to me...people have shown time and time again they don't really give a shit about Trump's misogyny and "oh no what will the children think!", but showing the electorate straight up that Trump is a literal con man who bilks anyone dumb enough to believe in him might've been useful

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

sorry the 'drumpf' thing was dumb as fuck, end of story

global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

that's why you go after john oliver

global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

'drumpf' was the last minute of a 22-minute segment that covered most of the awful shit mentioned in that article

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link

Oliver is so feeble

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 23 December 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

The first time I heard the phrase "fake news" was when Jon Stewart used it in 2004 as a pejorative to describe himself. Blowback really does have that "reap what you sow" element doesn't it?

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

Get your Andrew Jackson on and open up the White House for the party
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

already got the giant block of cheese right

difficult listening hour, Friday, 23 December 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

^^^ difficult listening hour EVISCERATES trump

difficult listening hour, Friday, 23 December 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0VyQZ0UUAA6Kvq.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 December 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

Wow.

re: Oliver, I enjoyed his show much better back in the days when he flatly refused to cover Trump at all tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 December 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

Something (well, there are a lot of things, but this is one) that I can't figure out. Again and again, Trump tweets or says something insane, or confusing, or dangerous, or otherwise hard to parse, but he never clarifies himself, it's always one of his surrogates or employees. "This is what he meant," that sort of thing. But these surrogates et al. have proven themselves to be just as confusing, contradictory, disingenuous, and dishonest. So are they winging it, buying time and stalling by pretending to clarify what Trump has said, or is there someone in between actually sending out talking point missives correcting/clarifying Trump statements? And is *that* person actually consulting with Trump, or just stalling for time themselves? Or is it Trump that's simply mangling the policies and statements being fed to him?

Like, Trump tweets about nuclear weapons, then that doofus Jason Miller comes out with a gentle clarification. Did he have to go to Trump first to get clarification, or his he just doing it on the fly while Don't-Look-Back Dear Leader barrels forward at full speed? Is it Trump with policies that Team Trump is struggling to understand, or is it Team Trump policies that Trump is struggling to understand? I suspect the latter, and that Trump himself doesn't always understand what his Team is devising, but I have no idea.

Or take the "drain the swamp" stuff. You get Trump saying "drain the swamp" at rallies. He didn't come up with the phrase, don't know who did, but used it plenty. Then you've got Newt saying "nah, he told me he doesn't like the phrase and isn't going to use it anymore." Then immediately backtracking: "I mean he does like it" So who intervened? Trump? Or Team Trump covering for Trump?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

Trump is making the stuff up as he goes. The flying monkeys are trying to make themselves seem useful, feel better, or give themselves a better position to argue from, or some mixture of all three. I don't see any reason to believe it goes deeper than that.

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 December 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure this was already posted. It here it is again: http://qz.com/852187/coping-with-chaos-in-the-white-house/

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 December 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

Forgive the Reddit link but this is a great post on Trumps F-18 tweet from a pilot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5jtocu/trump_asks_boeing_for_f18_pitch_citing_tremendous/dbixlo6

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 December 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

Well I'm sure the generals know more about this than that guy, and Trump knows more than the generals, so... checkmate?

Evan, Friday, 23 December 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Trump's simplistic "I can get a good deal" theater is mostly for the hardcore base I think.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 23 December 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

is there someone in between actually sending out talking point missives correcting/clarifying Trump statements?

how strange would it be if there actually was? I imagine it's just as strange and unorganized as it appears - his surrogates are flailing to keep up with someone who may be literally mentally ill

btw can I just say how much I hate that Peter Thiel quote, "his supporters are taking him figuratively not literally, while the media is taking him literally not figuratively". ignoring for a second that many of his supporters very much do take him literally, the fact that Trump HIMSELF seems to alternate between "I can't believe you idiots thought I actually meant that" and "no, I really meant that in a literal sense" is just deeply fucking strange

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

It's "seriously, but not literally."

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 23 December 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

"may be"

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 December 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

Trump's simplistic "I can get a good deal" theater is mostly for the hardcore base I think.

"I can get it for you wholesale," the mantra of New York

maura, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

Trump: "I know a guy..."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

this love affair with Putin is ridiculous

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

they should just whip em out and have a dick-measuring contest and get it over with

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

live on cspan hardcore

maura, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

not sure a dick measuring contest is what trump would be hoping for in that situation

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/2qZBM7l.jpg

A very nice letter from Vladimir Putin; his thoughts are so correct," Trump said in a statement. "I hope both sides are able to live up to these thoughts, and we do not have to travel an alternate path."

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

His Excellency?

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link


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