Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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i agree the ghosts of past, present and future need to visit him on christmas eve to show him the error of his ways and encourage him to reform

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/hack-cyberwar-security-email/2016/12/15/id/764263/

so the reason they sat on this for a year is...

wait for it...

...they thought they were gong to win!

smdh it's like the mantra at the root of every fuckup.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

"They thought she was going to win, so they were willing to kick the can down the road," NBC quoted one government official familiar with the situation.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

Damned if you, damned if you don't tbh. If he'd brought it up he'd be 'un-presidential', meddling in the election and all right?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

is "newsmax" actually a real news source?!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

if you really trash yr definition.

may i ask again: who read the Podesta emails and had their minds CHANGED by them? I don't think the ppl who found satanic rituals and pederasty in them count.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

is "newsmax" "nbc" actually a real news source?!

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

things the public needs to know, things they don't.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

The issue with the hacks and emails is that they created conditions for vague innuendo. It was a totally substance free scandal, which is why she couldn't exculpate herself. How can you prove your innocence it you never hear the charges? Xp

Treeship, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Trump could have pulled something like that off regardless, but the frequent leaks just led to a slow bleed of "scandal," even though in this case she was a victim of a crime not a perpetrator. The power of the "emails" was that no one was sure why they should be upset about them.

Treeship, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

I might need to sit with that Newsmax story for a little bit and really let it sink in, but at the moment it's making me angrier than almost anything else that's happened wrt the presidential election.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

I don't think it would have made much of a difference tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

I might need to sit with that Newsmax story for a little bit and really let it sink in
I might need to sit with that Newsmax story for a little bit and really let it sink in
I might need to sit with that Newsmax story for a little bit and really let it sink in
I might need to sit with that Newsmax story for a little bit and really let it sink in

think about what you are saying

marcos, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

xpost It's less about whether it would've made a difference and more about the administration making that determination themselves on our behalf.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

marcos, fwiw, it's an NBC News story reposted by whatever the hell Newsmax is. If I get what you are saying.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

is "newsmax" actually a real news source?!

― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall),

the NBC News story to which it linked is real

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

sorry about the newmax links guys. i know in this time of fake news we can only trust certain sources

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-didnt-obama-do-more-about-russian-election-hack-n696701

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

I bet Trump is asking his people if the US can just give Taiwan to China.

Man, I hope he does not start a war with China before he becomes president.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

I have a question, does he have or is he trying to build hotels or other holdings in Mainland China?

combat wombat (doo dah), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Dalai Lama named US ambassador to China.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

That second one seems a lot less consequential. Just some sort of aquatic science thing. Reportedly.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

And this is only a month since the election... great.

jmm, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I have a feeling in years back we will look at Russian interference in the election the same way we look at the Supreme Court case that gave us George Bush.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of the Supreme Court, who is the worst possible choice Trump could make? Because we will probably get that person.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

o btw I'm finding postmortems quite unpleasant now rn, but for people whose alternative vision of history suggests that HRC ran a campaign of "vote for me instead of the BAD MAN," please see this Vox piece.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13972394/most-common-words-hillary-clinton-speech

The issue she talked about more than any other was jobs.

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Judge Judy is crazy about trump, anyone know her political leanings?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

im trying to remember the circumstances under which bush withdrew his nomination of harriet miers and i wonder whether the same type of thing would happen w/ the current GOP and a dumb trump nomination

marcos, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Newsmax, Daily Mail... Some great news sources today, guys.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Chronology:

Sandra Day O'Connor announces retirement.
Bush nominates John Roberts to take her spot.
Rehnquist dies.
Bush movies Roberts to fill his spot.
Bush nominates Harriet Miers
The Western world has a fit; Miers pulls out of nomination.
Bush nominates Sam Alito

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

xpost Bruh. As has been mentioned at least three times, the Newsmax thing is directly quoting an NBC News story.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

Michael Cohen for SC justice, surely?

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

o btw I'm finding postmortems quite unpleasant now rn, but for people whose alternative vision of history suggests that HRC ran a campaign of "vote for me instead of the BAD MAN," please see this Vox piece.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13972394/most-common-words-hillary-clinton-speech

The issue she talked about more than any other was jobs.

― troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 16, 2016 12:31 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, the word "job" was the most common word. For example, this speech has it three times, zero of them having anything to do with "jobs."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/transcript-hillary-clinton-alt-right-reno-227419

We all remember when Trump said a distinguished federal judge born in Indiana couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, “He’s a Mexican.”

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

Looks Like A Lot Of China To Me. Shit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/16/china-seizes-us-underwater-drone-south-china-sea

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

sorry missed the post upthread

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13972394/most-common-words-hillary-clinton-speech

according to this she never even talked about Trump at all!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

i bet he'll nominate peter thiel

global tetrahedron, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

It's also so classically Vox to be like "Her loss clearly didn't relate to economic issues, she said the word economy a lot!"

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

Thiel for press secretary, maybe? I dunno. It would be a perverse nomination, no doubt, but does it hit the sweet spot of maximum possible perversity wrt that particular position? With metrics like this, it's no wonder it's taken him so much time to iron out his cabinet!

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

Like, if there was a Department of Vegetarians, would you nominate a man wolfing down a bloody T-bone or the steak itself?

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

doubtful thiel would move to dc and give up his fawned over his sf tech billionaire life

iatee, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

Eh, he can just Skype in.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Trump has joked about nominating his sister to the SC, so maybe he'll do that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry

Been a while since we had a Marion/Maryanne Barry in DC.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Clinton's ads and the stuff her surrogates said was more noticeable than her speeches.

Treeship, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

I dont't dislike Secretary Clinton but I also don't get this urge to protect her, or to say she somehow ran an acceptable campaign. She lost to a cartoon villain.

Treeship, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link


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