Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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hillary understood that change is incremental

yeah, just like winter melts in the Arctic, very incremental

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

ah Kanye is the new Obama, playing Vulcan 9-dimensional chess

maybe he will pardon Snowden and Manning

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link

Very disappointed in Kanye.

Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

Maybe it would have been better for Hillary to have had a slogan that she herself could have said in speeches

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link

"you're with me"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

"please clap... for me"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

fukcing kanye. george bush doesn't care about black people. but this guy trump! this fuckin' guy right here!!

I mean, he does care about black people, he cares about keeping them out of his places of business and about preventing them from voting, how can you accuse him of apathy in this matter

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:05 (seven years ago) link

"If John Kasich wanted to be my dogwalker he might make it past the first round of interviews."

Romney wouldn't.

― ¶ (DJP), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:47 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually laughed out loud at this

.robin., Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link

so shocked kanye is drawn to this powerful narcissist...what could be the attraction...hmm

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:58 (seven years ago) link

i mean i'd like to think this is what he was doing:

KANYE WEST ‏@kanyewest Dec 13
I wanted to meet with Trump today to discuss multicultural issues.

KANYE WEST ‏@kanyewest Dec 13
These issues included bullying, supporting teachers, modernizing curriculums, and violence in Chicago.

KANYE WEST ‏@kanyewest Dec 13
I feel it is important to have a direct line of communication with our future President if we truly want change.

Long post, yet important. (crüt), Thursday, 15 December 2016 06:52 (seven years ago) link

Kanye is not a narcissist in the way Trump is a narcissist. I reject this line of thinking totally xp.

Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:00 (seven years ago) link

Kanye is not a moral paragon but he doesn't appear to derive his joy in life from dominating or humiliating others. He wants to create things and to be remembered as an innovator.

Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:02 (seven years ago) link

not dominating and humiliating others doesn't mean someone's not a narcissist

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link

Very long piece from (wait for it) Popbitch, linking up superinjunctions against the British press to Gawker to the coming of Il Douché (and his many unsavoury apparatchiks): http://popbitch.com/home/2016/12/08/pressing-on/

In a nutshell, OHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIII-

jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link

not dominating and humiliating others doesn't mean someone's not a narcissist

― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:20 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kanye is not a narcissist in the way Trump is a narcissist. I reject this line of thinking totally xp.

― Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:00 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kanye is not a moral paragon but he doesn't appear to derive his joy in life from dominating or humiliating others. He wants to create things and to be remembered as an innovator.

― Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:02 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link

I appreciate the dollar book Freud I'm reading about Kanye's motives

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2016 11:38 (seven years ago) link

Kanye looked like a hostage in the video of his meeting w/Trump

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

no he didn't

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 15 December 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

So some - NBC? - reporting that Putin was directly involved in and personally oversaw the hack.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link

So what is the end game with this, Syria, etc? Just chaos that it can take advantage of?

Even further underscores Trump's consistently insidious fascination with Russia. The litany, even if innocuous, goes so deep. Beginning with his son's admission that Russian interests comprise a disproportionate amount of his business, likely as loans.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link

I appreciate the dollar book Freud I'm reading about Kanye's motives

I'm not psychoanalyzing him. I'm looking at the things he has been saying about himself throughout his career.

Treeship, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

Putin: No, write the file with Esc-wq! Dammit comrade!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

Donald, Imma let you finish but Millard Fillmore was the greatest president of ALL TIME

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

“If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House waite [REALLY?] so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?”

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

what a fucking child

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

No, people just aren't being fair. It isn't fair! Everybody's so mean!

I just realized that we're all trapped in that Twilight Zone episode with the kid who controls reality and punishes people he doesn't like.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

It's a nice Cabinet, Donny -- REAL nice.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

"If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, then why did people only report on it, in increasing detail and specificity, for the past 8 months, repeatedly bringing it up in the news and during the debates, both in regards to hacking as well as to real conflicts of interest and pro-Russia figures within my circle, again and again, to the extent that Russia stuff far exceeded any discussion of domestic policy, right up to the very edge of the election and beyond, leading me to repeatedly and publicly discount said reports and disregard any intelligence to the contrary? Tragic!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

OL that's my fave showbiz metaphor thus far, good work

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

I'll take a bow once I'm sure it won't anger little Donnie.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

There was a debate where Trump was blurping on about how important "cybers" were, right? I'm sure we mocked it? PRESCIENT, imo.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

No, people just aren't being fair. It isn't fair! Everybody's so mean!

― My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:09 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

More like Vanity Unfair

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

See, I could at least toss Trump a few points if he'd employed that zing but I legitimately believe it's a formulation that lies outside of his cognitive abilities.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

Mock me if you think this is ridiculous, but having dealt with narcissists in my life before, I think there might be some relationship psychology that is also applicable to how to deal with Trump. I think there's a danger of getting into an "anger dance" with him, where people equate taking random shots at him with resistance and then he takes shots back and people freak the fuck out about it and lose their cool. That's how I feel about all this furious tweeting, it just feels like a pointless anger dance. The real "resistance" is going to be thwarting his political objectives, slowing down his power grabs, and, ultimately, organizing people to vote him out of office, and that's best done via targeting congress and local and state governments.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Is there anyone here actually claiming that @ing realDonaldTrump is the true face of resistance or progress or activism, though?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

That makes a lot of sense to me. Will require a lot of discipline on our side to make it happen. xp

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

Is there anyone here actually claiming that @ing realDonaldTrump is the true face of resistance or progress or activism, though?

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:38 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, but I don't literally mean just tweeting, I mean all of the kind of aimless rage and panic that I see flying around.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

This is a good doc on how to get Congresspeople to listen, btw. Even with a GOP majority, congresspeople still want to get reelected:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DzOz3Y6D8g_MNXHNMJYAz1b41_cn535aU5UsN7Lj8X8/preview#heading=h.fwfuc1708kuz

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

good link

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Can't read it at my stupid job but I'll repost it in the social activism thread.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

@GaryMiles_DN
BREAKING: State launches audit after voting discrepancies leave 60 percent of Detroit precincts unrecountable.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/vote-audit/95358702/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

feel like that's bad news since detroit probably voted hillary - republicans will seize upon it as evidence of voter fraud? xp

, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

I figured that was why Dr. Schadenfreude posted it.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link


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