Thread for all 2016 albums of the year lists

xp

Yeah, I'm sure that makes a difference. She'll probably crop up somewhere in the VV survey, whatever they're calling it this year.

Fader has a 115 track list: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/13/best-songs-of-2016-playlist

And they put #1 at the beginning og the list, far too kind

breaking threadban to deplore the fader's write-up of #1 and probably everything else about their ever-so right-on list

that isn't actually right-on at all (see #1 write-up)

look dad, no white people! so fucking brave

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

.... that's their no. 1?

no their number one is rihanna, which is fine except it contains the words 'women are pure, wet temptation'

fuck the absolute false-woke hipster garbage that is the fader

lol lj this list is really weird but i hardly think it demands that register of distaste

(i was expressing surprise at "sex with me" being no. 1)

xp does it help that the author of 'women are pure, wet temptation' is female?

anyway, I'm not sure what's wrong abt the fader list including both poc artists and bon iver? (except maybe the bon iver album was a bit underwhelming)

There's also Mitski somewhere in the Fader list. Looking at the list I thought Fader was a magazine focused on hiphop and r&b so it was strange seeing Mitski and Bon Iver in there. It bothers me more that the few white artists on the list are some of the most boring ones.

sure yeah mitski is white and sings about being white

i'm outta this one

imago, take that shit to Reddit or w/e

no one wants to hear you call the Fader cucks because there's not enough white people on their list

Here you go imago:

http://theboot.com/top-country-songs-of-2016/

But beware not even theboot dared to not have a beyonce song in their list.

imago's transition from screeching facebook feminist to frothing alt-right pepe is so perfect

that's exactly what's happened here

best list so far I think. wouldn't be my number 1 but she is the patron st of basic millennials so makes sense

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:36 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible post

new board description

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

Nothing wrong with a majority nonwhite list per se but this one reeks of forcing it, performativity etc, and with some REALLY annoying writing

anyway that really is all, but in case of future whiney goading, no i am not a racist or a pepe or any other hate-defined internet demographic

'sex with me' > 'black beatles' were my numbers 1 & 2 also. not sure if i should be redesigning my list here or what >:(

seems like it mostly lists the type of artists they cover?

It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.

Dude, have you actually seen what's happening in 2016?

"sex with me" is great i just don't particularly rate it over the other anti singles

You don't see how

A) Making a mental tally of the number of non-white musicians on a list
B) Equating "liking black artists" with ""smart"" and ""2016"
C) Publicly flipping out about it

Are all super weird and racist?

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

based on your thought process as described in 1-4 and the various assumptions it contains (only a black music publication would have a EOY list of the best music that was majority black, black people would never listen to Bon Iver), my answer to #5 is "no, but you're getting there"

xp
lol the mental leap that occurs between 3 and 4 on that list is very weird

I wasn't sure what I thought about this list on first brush but now I love it
contributor roster is super diverse too, you might want to think about that for a minute imago

Posts like imagos are one step away from ironically posting *triggered* and screaming at "cuckfork" for liking Solange. Keep this shit off our board and go back to being Limey Loi

#3 is imago jumping to the conclusion that Fader is "performatively woke"

Its a good list but it also kinda makes me want my country back goddamit

make america rock again

agh, they drag me back in

Whiney:

didn't make a tally but fine I guess I was looking for the wrong thing. v conspicuous though and made more so by narrow genre focus

equating making a list of this particularly narrow focus with 'woke' contemporary discourse sure, but again it's probably my fault for othering it idk - for many people this focus is everything - I am sorry for this

Dan:

fair and I'm sorry again - although my aspie brain distinguishes between 'majority' and 'almost all' - but even then I guess it would be fair for a general music zine to do this. been so much great music of all genres this year though that it feels like a very forced editorial decision, but who am I to complain

rob: it's awesome that there is such diversity on the panel! that is to be commended. but this diversity has manifested in a weird and narrow list and I'll admit I can't get my head around it, maybe due to prejudice.

not your job to educate me. apologies again.

would like to stress as well that my initial fury was stoked by that write-up and that spilt over into my complaint with their weirdly restricted editorial focus, and I do not intend a tone of hatred towards black music, and I'm really sorry if it seems this way

why is this list "narrow"? It seems pretty musically diverse

admittedly more british rap than id like to see.

that you see a list with lots of black music as "restricted" or "narrow" might actually reflect your own myopic POV, just my 10 cents

er, pence?

idk why im bothering to argue with imago LOL

a list full of white rock bands would be even worse but we're not seeing much of those outside kerrang and classic rock mag

except for maybe over the last 40 years of music journalists making lists

so let's not get into ridiculous notions of "balance"

really wish I'd been threadbanned now

maybe just maybe a lot of mainstream rock/indie/guitar pop/call it what the fuck you want is becoming an increasingly niche concern

this diversity has manifested in a weird and narrow list and I'll admit I can't get my head around it

this has been said before in other ways, but there's a running theme in this thread, not at all surprising for a/this message board of course, of people ignoring the social aspect of music and expecting music writers and publications to be super focused on discovery or innovation rather than registering/analyzing music as a social phenomenon despite the fact that clearly the latter is both more common and more popular with readers

except for maybe over the last 40 years of music journalists making lists

if it ain't woke don't fix it