Thread for all 2016 albums of the year lists

The Textura list is great; I'm definitely going to start reading that site.

It's all about untitled 6 man

The average age of the artists in that Ultimate Classic Rock is a spritely 65.6. And that's only because the baby-faced Gen-Xers in Green Day (all 44) bring the average down. Otherwise it would be 68, including the young 52-54 yo upstarts in Metallica. It's understandable that baby boomers might be uncomfortable becoming fans of bands young enough to be their grandchildren, and it's cool that so many artists are remaining active into retirement age. But still, that list is kinda nuts.

― Fastnbulbous

i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!

perhaps Kendrick would've done better had he titled his songs this year

― niels

if kendrick had put untitled unmastered out as a "proper" record he would've gotten all kinds of shit for putting out an album that sounds like outtakes from "to pimp a butterfly".

re: the line of best fit list - since there seems to be a trend towards language policing around this time of year, can i humbly propose that we put the kibosh on "genre-queer"? or at least ask for some sort of explanation as to why PWR BTTM are "genre-queer" but Tengger Cavalry aren't?

"genre-queer" is so performative woke

from Textura list, Buck Curran's album is really good

i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!

I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.

I'm going to repeat myself from last year's thread and be surprised and puzzled at the paucity of Dawn Richard placements on these lists. I can understand her not being top 10 (tho she is for me), but to not be in the top 50 on several of the lists is weird. She gets good reviews, I know critics know/like her, but then she just disappears. (Except for odd things like being #1 on Fader last year.)

not that it would have mattered probably, but her album came out after most of these lists were already being compiled

I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.

― Fastnbulbous

it's nice that there are publications that want to proselytize to their fanbase and build a bridge to other kinds of music. arguably fiscally prudent, as well, although i suspect the "ultimate classic rock" demographic belong to the last generation that considers buying magazines in any way useful or important.

part of me just wants to give them a peaceful death. if they want to die thinking that eric clapton is the best guitar player of all time, just like their parents died loving lawrence welk and guy lombardo... let them. let ultimate classic rock magazine be the dead to bury the dead.

in the meantime, how about that bonnie raitt album?

xp

Yeah, I'm sure that makes a difference. She'll probably crop up somewhere in the VV survey, whatever they're calling it this year.

Fader has a 115 track list: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/13/best-songs-of-2016-playlist

And they put #1 at the beginning og the list, far too kind

breaking threadban to deplore the fader's write-up of #1 and probably everything else about their ever-so right-on list

that isn't actually right-on at all (see #1 write-up)

look dad, no white people! so fucking brave

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

.... that's their no. 1?

no their number one is rihanna, which is fine except it contains the words 'women are pure, wet temptation'

fuck the absolute false-woke hipster garbage that is the fader

lol lj this list is really weird but i hardly think it demands that register of distaste

(i was expressing surprise at "sex with me" being no. 1)

xp does it help that the author of 'women are pure, wet temptation' is female?

anyway, I'm not sure what's wrong abt the fader list including both poc artists and bon iver? (except maybe the bon iver album was a bit underwhelming)

There's also Mitski somewhere in the Fader list. Looking at the list I thought Fader was a magazine focused on hiphop and r&b so it was strange seeing Mitski and Bon Iver in there. It bothers me more that the few white artists on the list are some of the most boring ones.

sure yeah mitski is white and sings about being white

i'm outta this one

imago, take that shit to Reddit or w/e

no one wants to hear you call the Fader cucks because there's not enough white people on their list

Here you go imago:

http://theboot.com/top-country-songs-of-2016/

But beware not even theboot dared to not have a beyonce song in their list.

imago's transition from screeching facebook feminist to frothing alt-right pepe is so perfect

that's exactly what's happened here

best list so far I think. wouldn't be my number 1 but she is the patron st of basic millennials so makes sense

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:36 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible post

new board description

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

Nothing wrong with a majority nonwhite list per se but this one reeks of forcing it, performativity etc, and with some REALLY annoying writing

anyway that really is all, but in case of future whiney goading, no i am not a racist or a pepe or any other hate-defined internet demographic

'sex with me' > 'black beatles' were my numbers 1 & 2 also. not sure if i should be redesigning my list here or what >:(

seems like it mostly lists the type of artists they cover?

It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.

Dude, have you actually seen what's happening in 2016?

"sex with me" is great i just don't particularly rate it over the other anti singles

You don't see how

A) Making a mental tally of the number of non-white musicians on a list
B) Equating "liking black artists" with ""smart"" and ""2016"
C) Publicly flipping out about it

Are all super weird and racist?

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

based on your thought process as described in 1-4 and the various assumptions it contains (only a black music publication would have a EOY list of the best music that was majority black, black people would never listen to Bon Iver), my answer to #5 is "no, but you're getting there"

xp
lol the mental leap that occurs between 3 and 4 on that list is very weird

I wasn't sure what I thought about this list on first brush but now I love it
contributor roster is super diverse too, you might want to think about that for a minute imago

Posts like imagos are one step away from ironically posting *triggered* and screaming at "cuckfork" for liking Solange. Keep this shit off our board and go back to being Limey Loi

#3 is imago jumping to the conclusion that Fader is "performatively woke"

Its a good list but it also kinda makes me want my country back goddamit

make america rock again

agh, they drag me back in

Whiney:

didn't make a tally but fine I guess I was looking for the wrong thing. v conspicuous though and made more so by narrow genre focus

equating making a list of this particularly narrow focus with 'woke' contemporary discourse sure, but again it's probably my fault for othering it idk - for many people this focus is everything - I am sorry for this

Dan:

fair and I'm sorry again - although my aspie brain distinguishes between 'majority' and 'almost all' - but even then I guess it would be fair for a general music zine to do this. been so much great music of all genres this year though that it feels like a very forced editorial decision, but who am I to complain

rob: it's awesome that there is such diversity on the panel! that is to be commended. but this diversity has manifested in a weird and narrow list and I'll admit I can't get my head around it, maybe due to prejudice.

not your job to educate me. apologies again.

would like to stress as well that my initial fury was stoked by that write-up and that spilt over into my complaint with their weirdly restricted editorial focus, and I do not intend a tone of hatred towards black music, and I'm really sorry if it seems this way