pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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get woke by your friends, and wake them back

marcos, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

get woke with dunkin'! *picture of angela davis*

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

WOKE COFFEE is an open area for explorations of techniques, tastes, and traditions of coffee. It is a single place that curates, consolidates and communicates the expansive amount of products, processes, and people of the coffee industry, for people who want to know where to start. Its is a space where for learning and respectful dialogue about the issues surrounding coffee and society, providing energy to bring forth progress in the world.

― nomar, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this an iphone app or a physical place

marcos, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

xp deej - think the word distinction u need there is good/bad

― flopson, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:59 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure but 'performatively woke' (though yes now its own cliche) ascribes a selfish motive beyond simply "bad writing"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

selfish/lazy

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

/cynical/$$$

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

but yea woke sucks in general imo. white libs/leftists realized saying 'politically correct' makes u sound like a Trump supporter so we just made up a new word

― flopson, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:46 PM (thirty-three minutes ago

white people did not coin the term "woke" dude, lol...

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

the funny thing about "performatively woke" is that the phrase is used both by leftists to suggest gaucheness and by SJWs to suggest inauthenticity. it's so ubiquitous at this point that it's become pretty meaningless

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

I cringe whenever I see white people using "woke" on social media. Maybe this is wrong, IDK. Feels unlikely they are actually using it IRL.

Position Position, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

it's mostly used by dumb people in a dumb way and that's why it has to go. even if it came from some cool badu world. other people ruined it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

the funny thing about "performatively woke" is that the phrase is used both by leftists to suggest gaucheness and by SJWs to suggest inauthenticity. it's so ubiquitous at this point that it's become pretty meaningless

it's already meaningless? i just started using it!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

deej otm generally

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

deej performatively otm.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

the funny thing about "performatively woke" is that the phrase is used both by leftists to suggest gaucheness and by SJWs to suggest inauthenticity. it's so ubiquitous at this point that it's become pretty meaningless

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:25 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf I had never heard these words used together until this thread, a few hours ago

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

from the ama

when will you all announce that Pitchfork will be shifting to a full fledged entertainment website? seems inevitable with the continuing forays into pop culture, politics, and TV/movies.

We love covering things when they intersect with music, or when it seems like our audience can’t stop reading about them. Stranger Things, for example, is a show we loved, and found the same for our readers. It makes sense to cover culture made by people who, if they made music, we would love.

Number None, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link

It makes sense to cover culture made by people who, if they made music, we would love.

that makes absolutely zero fucking sense

If only Picasso wrote novels, I just know I'd love them

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

white people did not coin the term "woke" dude, lol...

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:22 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

b4 it became the word of choice to express exaggeration w/ identity politics i had only ever seen it as used by poc on twitter w a positive connotation, often self-id-ing as woke. mb i should have said 'scrounged around for a new word' rather than 'came up with' i apologize k3vin

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

by 2011 the phrase had begun to gain popularity as a way of describing an informed, questioning, self-educating individual, which is essentially how we use it today

see i would say now it's widely used as a term of abuse on twitter

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

It makes sense to cover culture made by people who, if they made music, we would love.

This is an insane sentence.

alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

they should just embrace it all, state their intention to broaden their audience, add the usual shit about bringing the perspective of the most trusted voice on music (tm) to new subject matter, etc etc. rip the bandaid off

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

Attention all journalists: This is really getting out of hand. Stop saying "woke." You sound fucking ridiculous.

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, December 12, 2016 1:54 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:32 (seven years ago) link

"performatively woke" is useful because it describes the ubiquitous practice of disguising media politics, personal friendships, personal grudges and/or personal boners as social justice issues

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link

Basically what we can conclude here is that white people ruined "woke", as with everything else.

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

Hey guys we can actually carbon date the ruination of "woke":

https://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon/can-we-talk-about-how-woke-matt-mcgorry-was-in-2015

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link

xp exactly

flopson, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link

LOL at the AMA, had to scroll down quite a bit before i hit an answer from one of them. the Coltrane review is near the top

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link

just one white supremacy brand engaging with another. nothing to see here

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 07:23 (seven years ago) link

white lines

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 07:33 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I was just browsing that AMA and someone brought up that Nothing - Tired of Tomorrow somehow made the best shoegaze records of all time list (silly on its own) yet couldn't place on the 50 best of 2016 list. Guess they feel shoegaze isn't so cool these days.

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/YDD6TdM.jpg

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

lol

marcos, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

I've found the most pedantic person on the internet!

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5i58lp/were_the_editors_of_pitchfork_we_just_finished/db5hiwd/

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

the whole thread is literally millennial males sperging out because Pitchfork gives good reviews to black people now and Mark and Matt ignoring them, good showing everyone

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

You often give Best New Music distinctions to artists who you then announce will be part of the Pitchfork Music Festival. Is that a conflict of interest, and why or why not?

looks like someone stumbled on the conspiracy of a website dedicate to promoting music being engaged in the business of promoting music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

Hey I'm just saying I didn't realize shoegaze apparently isn't so trendy anymore

xposts

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

it kinda tears me up a little how many guys are still out there thinking music criticism is the quiet, steady cataloguing of factual data

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

xxp lol why wouldn't they put artists they like on the festival bill?

"YOU SHOULD ONLY PUT ARTIST I LIKE ON THE FESTIVAL BILL!"

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

Your description of Frank Ocean's album to justify its lofty #2 spot highlights a blowjob joke he makes. How is that supposed to show that this is a quality album?

yes albums are only good if they mention blowjobs, no other reason

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?

marcos, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?Do you think of music as a hierarchy that artists must climb and your scores to be a barometer of how far they have climbed up that ladder? If not, how can it be that nearly all of the highest scoring albums this year are from artists that scored high in prior years?

marcos, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

the thread that's been coating their monitors in spittle every time these guys cover something that is NOT MUSIC is really sticking it to Reddit rn.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

that is sort of a fair criticism xp

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

and not xp

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

lol music as a hierarchy

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

the guy that is superior to petty conversations about p4k and who needs to obsessively establish his superiority to the thread that's been coating their monitors in spittle every time these guys cover something that is NOT MUSIC is really sticking it to people who obsess over petty conversations about p4k rn

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, let's not act like these dudes on Reddit aren't bringing up some fair and valid criticism. Not in the most articulate or tasteful way, but they do make a few points.

Austin, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

the thread that's been coating their monitors in spittle every time these guys cover something that is NOT MUSIC is really sticking it to Reddit rn.

― Whiney G. Weingarten

yeah c'mon guys, pfork's explanation of why they cover "stranger things" was perfectly logical, coherent, and reasonable. what right do we have, really, to call out a site packed to the gills with white supremacists?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

confirmed

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

wow how is ian cohen still this much of a meme to redditors?

austinb, Thursday, 15 December 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

fuckin seriously reddit, THIS HERE IS HOW YOU INTERROGATE P4K!! fuckin poseurs do you see the date on the OP in this thread it is MARCH 31 2002!!

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link


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