SPIN's been covering country for years, though.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:19 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
True, but I thought last year's list was especially indie-rock heavy? I only remember Kacey Musgraves making their list. Maybe it was just the year.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
The album cover transition from 38 to 37 on Spin's list of songs makes a good mini-narrative.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
interesting how the Suede record received great reviews but is afaict not showing on many lists
― niels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
I liked in February, forgot about it, loved it in November. It's on mine.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
well it's kind of a relief that the wire has just decided to like the records everybody else likes instead of holding out on this notion of "avant garde" consisting mainly of 70-something europeans.
When did The Wire do this, really? Even looking at these, Robert Wyatt is the only person who could come close to fitting that description.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, yeah, I'd like to see someone still rep for the proper European avant-garde as well.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
interesting how the Suede record received great reviews but is afaict not showing on many lists― niels, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:09 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI liked in February, forgot about it, loved it in November. It's on mine.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:12 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I liked in February, forgot about it, loved it in November. It's on mine.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:12 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's one of my most listened to records this year. I liked Bloodsports just fine, but Night Thoughts was their best album in years.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
As I've done in the last few years, I've made a Spotify playlist that aggregates a bunch of best-songs lists (Pitchfork, Spin, Rolling Stone, Billboard, NME, Entertainment Weekly, Paste, Consequence of Sound, PopMatters, Time, NPR, Vulture, etc.). Currently at about 450 songs. More to come?
https://open.spotify.com/user/seaworthyset/playlist/6H2kytqHfA8bTFNOUPjm9x
― Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
Night Thoughts is in my top 50 if not quite 25. 'I Don't Know How To Reach You' might be in my top 5 tracks though
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)
FWIW this is brilliant.
hell yeah it is
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup
That 12" was actually from 2015. The dub album was this year, which is on my list. I can't find that Too Much Information in lossless anywhere, it's not on Bandcamp nor Boomkat. Any ideas?
https://delesosimi.bandcamp.com/album/you-no-fit-touch-am-in-dub-feat-prince-fatty-nostalgia-77
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
It's the big one you guys...
Ultimate Classic Rock - Best Albums of 2016http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2016-best-rock-albums/
20. Eric Clapton, 'I Still Do'19. Graham Nash, 'This Path Tonight'18. Steven Tyler, 'We're All Somebody From Somewhere'17. Neil Young & Promise of the Real, 'Earth'16. Bob Weir, 'Blue Mountain'15. Bonnie Raitt, 'Dig in Deep'14. Jeff Beck, 'Loud Hailer'13. Neil Young, 'Peace Trail'12. Sting, '57th & 9th'11. Elton John, 'Wonderful Crazy Night'
10. Bob Dylan, 'Fallen Angels'9. The Monkees, 'Good Times!'8. Iggy Pop, 'Post Pop Depression'7. Mudcrutch, '2'6. Green Day, 'Revolution Radio'5. Metallica, 'Hardwired ... to Self-Destruct'4. Leonard Cohen, 'You Want It Darker'3. The Rolling Stones, 'Blue & Lonesome'2. Paul Simon, 'Stranger to Stranger'1. David Bowie, 'Blackstar'
― Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
inclusion of bonnie raitt is some pc gone mad shit though
― Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
who even knew all these geezers even put out new albums this year
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
Blackstar seems like a risqué #1 choice for 'Classic rock'. Kudos.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
in ten years they'll have nothing left but green day records
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
the Bonnie Raitt album is wonderful, guys, jeez
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
was gonna say
― sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
I was all 'who are these Mudcrutch kids' compared to the rest of the list, then looked them up.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Was just poking fun at the daring inclusion of a female, relax
― Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
:)
also Mordy otm, I had no idea 75% of thee records existed
― sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
peace trail is a very weird record
― maura, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link
That Jeff Beck album is worth hearing; it's a collaboration with a female guitarist and singer who work together as Bones, and it's loud and ugly like a latter-day Cult record. I've never been a Beck fan, but this one's worth a stream at least.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link
I like Jeff Beck a lot, including recent stuff, but I didn't get around to Loud Hailer yet. It's definitely on my list.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
The average age of the artists in that Ultimate Classic Rock is a spritely 65.6. And that's only because the baby-faced Gen-Xers in Green Day (all 44) bring the average down. Otherwise it would be 68, including the young 52-54 yo upstarts in Metallica. It's understandable that baby boomers might be uncomfortable becoming fans of bands young enough to be their grandchildren, and it's cool that so many artists are remaining active into retirement age. But still, that list is kinda nuts.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link
The Textura list upthread is fascinating if only because I do not know a single album in there (except for the Carl Stone compilation and that's one of the most esoteric albums in my collection. Shing Kee 1986 is mindblowing btw).
Anyone recognize at least one album from there? Anything worth listening?
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:38 (seven years ago) link
Also looking at their lists from previous years and whoa I know only two albums at most. The mixes/reissues/compilations I can identify half of the list but the yearly ones seem chosen by someone who lives in a cave (in a good way).
Would love to see them (him? her?) give a decade list a try. Would love to see their top 50 albums for every decade if they follow the same sort of offbeat selection.
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link
agreed Textura is one of the more interesting ones of these we've seen. i don't know much from it, though i do know Halvorson, Hammock, Causa Sui and Johanna Warren. lots of good stuff to dig into, yes.
Moka, if you're intrigued by that one, be sure to click on the Anti-Gravity Bunny list, too. unless you're a drone wizard, there'll be plenty to discover there, too, i'd imagine
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 09:29 (seven years ago) link
Textura is always really good - I've heard a few of these (the Tignor, bvdub, Hammock, James Murray, Anne Garner, Hedvig Mollestad Trio - all excellent), and I know some of the other artists' earlier work but there's still a lot of totally unknown material to dive into. The music that Textura usually covers falls roughly within the triangle of modern/minimalist classical, experimental jazz and electronic/ambient.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/listomania/fifty-best-albums-2016
So it is still possible for a relatively 'generalist' publication to produce a more interesting list. Some of the usual suspects appear, but lots of interest in the lower reaches.
Top 10: Jenny Hval, Danny Brown, Anna Meredith, Mitski, Bon Iver, Chance The Rapper, Shura, Skepta, The Radio Dept., ATCQ.
― dorsalstop, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link
I love how that Classic Rock list begins "it was a great year for classic rock (except for everyone dying)..."
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link
"Tom Petty's other band, Mudcrutch..."
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
Ah, thanks for the Textura list. That's the kind of thing I was looking for. Based in Peterborough!
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link
perhaps Kendrick would've done better had he titled his songs this year
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:19 (seven years ago) link
"untitled 03" is a jam but how would you know
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link
The Textura list is great; I'm definitely going to start reading that site.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:33 (seven years ago) link
It's all about untitled 6 man
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous
i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
― niels
if kendrick had put untitled unmastered out as a "proper" record he would've gotten all kinds of shit for putting out an album that sounds like outtakes from "to pimp a butterfly".
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
re: the line of best fit list - since there seems to be a trend towards language policing around this time of year, can i humbly propose that we put the kibosh on "genre-queer"? or at least ask for some sort of explanation as to why PWR BTTM are "genre-queer" but Tengger Cavalry aren't?
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
"genre-queer" is so performative woke
― Position Position, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
from Textura list, Buck Curran's album is really good
― sleeve, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
I'm going to repeat myself from last year's thread and be surprised and puzzled at the paucity of Dawn Richard placements on these lists. I can understand her not being top 10 (tho she is for me), but to not be in the top 50 on several of the lists is weird. She gets good reviews, I know critics know/like her, but then she just disappears. (Except for odd things like being #1 on Fader last year.)
― birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
not that it would have mattered probably, but her album came out after most of these lists were already being compiled
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
it's nice that there are publications that want to proselytize to their fanbase and build a bridge to other kinds of music. arguably fiscally prudent, as well, although i suspect the "ultimate classic rock" demographic belong to the last generation that considers buying magazines in any way useful or important.
part of me just wants to give them a peaceful death. if they want to die thinking that eric clapton is the best guitar player of all time, just like their parents died loving lawrence welk and guy lombardo... let them. let ultimate classic rock magazine be the dead to bury the dead.
in the meantime, how about that bonnie raitt album?
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link
xp
Yeah, I'm sure that makes a difference. She'll probably crop up somewhere in the VV survey, whatever they're calling it this year.
― birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Fader has a 115 track list: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/13/best-songs-of-2016-playlist
― rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
And they put #1 at the beginning og the list, far too kind
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
breaking threadban to deplore the fader's write-up of #1 and probably everything else about their ever-so right-on list
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
that isn't actually right-on at all (see #1 write-up)