Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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the gizmodo post was at least readable

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

A lot of people think of democratic policies as an effort to redistribute wealth from the middle and working classes to the lumpenproletariat. People at the Sanders/Trump voters summit last night were convinced that if the minimum wage were raised, they'd end up paying for it via higher costs for goods and services. Xp

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

ugh Kanye and trump meeting and the fact that it's being reported on like it's big news is so depressing. what a shit time to be alive

journos continue to fall for Trump's schtick hook line and sinker. had to get those pesky Russians out of the headlines somehow!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, yeah, Trump's dumb as shit and incapable of discerning reality from fiction. Is the sky still blue, too?

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

(xpost to WWE 'revelation')

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

That gizmodo post felt very 2013.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

But I think the selection continually reinforcing the connection over and over again, and given how political campaign planners are always fighting the last war, this myopic reading of "average voter" will facilitate the targeting next time round. Yeah, it establishes the bona fides of the person interviewed or readers who might be Trump voters, but for every _media_ type reading it, it yet again makes them think "yeah, this is the representative voice we need to talk to."

For all the bubble talk lately, everything around this just reinforces the pundit bubble, if you will. "Real America is Elsewhere," to paraphrase Kundera.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

Last night, a 2008 clip from the Opie and Anthony Show began recirculating. In the clip, WWE wrestler/McMahon son-in-law Triple H briefly mentions the limo-explosion storyline, and then reveals that Donald Trump—a longtime pro wrestling performer, mind you—called McMahon’s office to find out if he had really died after the explosion aired.

― nomar, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:52 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The whole scene had such great pacing and believable human emotion it's understandable that he was confused

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

so did trump have a baked in advantage as a man whos knowledge and perception of the world hasnt evolved since 1988?

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

You're being awfully generous with that '1988' there.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

Considering he ran on turning the clock back to the 1950s ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

1950s in what country

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Some of his supporters would prefer the 1850s, it's true.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

As satire (I suppose), I thought this was funny: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/new-york-should-seize-trump-tower/2016/12/12/6dfdfc50-c0b2-11e6-897f-918837dae0ae_story.html

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Kos ain't exactly helping things here with shit like this:

Be happy for coal miners losing their health insurance. They're getting exactly what they voted for

The idea that people deserve suffering for not voting correctly seems a bullshit holdover from dumber times, like how your kids only going to learn if you beat them repeatedly. Feeds into the Accelerationist thing. Can tribal groups or societies even "learn" like that?

Petty vindictiveness is a human reaction, but one don't do shit 'cept make everything worse.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

OTMFM

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

manthreading

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:02 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hate this phrase, not the least because it will forever remind me of this:

https://vimeo.com/40608388

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

I liked Jeet Heer's thread about representations of ppl having sex with animals and vegetables in Canadian fiction, more twitter threads like that please

― soref, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:14 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this ruled

goole, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

The ongoing anachronistic focus on the coal industry is yet another thing that seems very dawn of the 20th century. It's like blaming Brexit on disgruntled chimney sweeps.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah and its not like mother coal held its beautiful employees tight to its bosom or anything like that. it was all child labor, black lung and murdering people at the picket lines

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

all fine upstanding american traditions, sir

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Thanks to a random reference I stumbled across the other day, I learned about Harry Caudill and his book Night Falls on the Cumberlands, which by all accounts essentially started the modern focus on Appalachia, with special reference to the coal industry, as a problem to be solved/ignored/pondered at, take your pick. A couple of years ago, the Lexington Herald Leader did a multistory look back at the book, its and his impact and numerous other points of history up to the present, under the overall title Fifty Years of Night. There's an ebook, but the individual stories can be read here:

http://www.kentucky.com/news/special-reports/fifty-years-of-night/

I highly recommend it -- among other things, it functions as a snapshot up to a pre-Trump candidacy, as well as allowing for the sheer amount of ambivalence threading through so much of what has happened there among those interviewed -- regrets, realizations, internal resignation. Not to mention a deeply ambivalent take on Caudill as he aged; he could almost be an American model for Ibsen's Enemy of the People, and some of what he eventually espoused is no-joke bad.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

You'll never watch your life slide out of view, and dance and drink and screw
Because there's nothing else to do.

Bnad, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

for all your FB friends swooning over Obama's Christmas card.

"In the summer of 2009, less than a year after President Obama took office, one of the first orders of business for the newly empaneled Senate Judiciary Committee was passing a long-stalled federal ‘media shield’ bill, which would finally provide a uniform level of protection to reporters who get subpoenaed to testify against their sources in court....

But just as it looked like the bill would sail through Congress and make its way to the president’s desk, it was stopped in its tracks. President Obama suddenly reversed course from his previous position and announced he would oppose the bill if the Senate didn’t carve out a giant national security exception that would make the important protections within it all but meaningless....

Sadly, this incident was only the first of several moves by the Obama administration that laid the groundwork for a potentially unprecedented crackdown on the press by the incoming Trump administration...."

https://freedom.press/news/how-obama-administration-laid-groundwork-trumps-coming-crackdown-press/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

Cool, was wondering what I should use my time machine to fix today.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

who has grounds to sue over this kind of thing? state attorney generals? the justice department?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/13/donald-trump-will-still-be-violating-the-constitution-as-soon-as-hes-sworn-in/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.53e931381f5f

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

any citizen?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

this new act is worse than the old one, OL; consider that a "note"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

Thx, I'll deliver your "note" to my past self but my act is probably a more futile problem to tackle.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

perhaps you let the White House know you didn't approve of Obama's abuse of the Espionage Act in the past?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

andy borowitz "joeks"
convince the electors to vote against trump
watch this brutal trevor noah takedown
john oliver
samantha bee
jill stein recount petition

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

^^ half of my FB feed, plus OMG RUSSIA

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

me too it is bad

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Keep up, Morbz, I've spent the past month wearing the armchair liberal hairshirt. But time, like one's FB timeline, moves forward.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

you need more trump-loving soviet emigres on your feed, then you will learn all about how george soros is bussing fake protestors all around the country ("here's proof -- I LOOK A PICTURE OF A BUS")

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

ok maybe you don't need more, i've only got 3 and they provide me with all i need of this stuff

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

you need more trump-loving soviet emigres on your feed, then you will learn all about how george soros is bussing fake protestors all around the country ("here's proof -- I LOOK A PICTURE OF A BUS")

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:14 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha i do have an uncle giving me that shit

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

lots of infowars/breitbart stuff although a lot that is even way less respectable than those :/

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

The most recent Borowitz appearance on my timeline was my wife posting one of his pieces and effectively saying "what the fuck is this shit"

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

"Your office cut-up getting paid for his political insight" is basically what the fuck that shit is.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Borowitz cited for identifying Russian-hack-obsessives as PATRIOTS! his funniest yet....

@glcarlstrom
Netanyahu: Israel needs to govern more like Trump, with more political appointees picked by the PM.

also

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.758821

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

this is a start. http://neveragain.tech/

ctrl-f "facebook" (who literally have a muslim database) = not found.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

there's also this thing https://sfbay.techsolidarity.org/2016/11/28/meeting_notes.htm (nyc, boston, etc. coming soon although a lot of the surveillance culture tech is in sf for now)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

lmfao that their sole volunteer link is SURJ

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link

(Re: neveragain.tech)

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

andy borowitz "joeks"
convince the electors to vote against trump
watch this brutal trevor noah takedown
john oliver
samantha bee
jill stein recount petition

― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:07 (two hours ago) Permalink

^^ half of my FB feed, plus OMG RUSSIA

― sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:08 (two hours ago) Permalink

The B&W rant by some actress basically saying "Hey Trump voters, you're stupid." for ten minutes.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Honestly it's very disheartening, these things all bespeak denial and a lack of real political tools.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

i really am going to have to block the new yorker from my feed. they have some decent journalism but all that ever gets shared from it is borowitz crap.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

Perhaps explains his continued employment

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link


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