Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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I dont understand why pizzagate is a thing but the epstein stuff isnt, both for trump and william jefferson clinton

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

Because this is a fallen world, is why.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

Rick Perry for Energy Dept...

Kanye for Minister of Arts and Culture?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

the trump university stuff looked pretty out-and-out damning, although obviously it never made it to trial

― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea i just had that thought trying to fall asleep last night -- remember when our president-elect had to settle a $25 million fraud lawsuit 10 days after he was elected and then everyone promptly forgot about it when he called a bunch of theater folks "rude" and "overrated"?

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

Trying to remember: are there any serial post office arsonists that Trump can nominate for Postmaster General? I mean, since his administration is just going to be one long troll on the people who dared oppose him.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Unabomer?

“a tub of horses” (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

he should nominate an Amazon drone

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

yea i just had that thought trying to fall asleep last night -- remember when our president-elect had to settle a $25 million fraud lawsuit 10 days after he was elected and then everyone promptly forgot about it when he called a bunch of theater folks "rude" and "overrated"?

there's been so much of this shit that most people have just shrugged over and instantly forgotten about that i'm starting to wonder whether scott adams was actually speaking literally when he talked about trump being a master hypnotist

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

xpost Sure, why not. Confirmation hearings would be pretty breezy for a machine without sentience. Which is why I expect most of his cabinet to be cleared with a minimum of friction.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

everyone chill, Bob Gates says Tillerson is a great pick

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/310116-gates-endorses-tillerson

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Rick Perry ... now, see, that's just funny. It's one thing to pick the anti-EPA guy to run the EPA, it's another to pick the anti-Department of Energy guy most famous for forgetting he wanted to abolish the Department of Energy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

hmmm xp

ExxonMobil is a client of Gates' consulting firm, RiceHadleyGates LLC.

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

LOL:

Remember, Exxon is a company so famously awful that it's been the basis of a Marvel villain group for more than 40 years!

https://twitter.com/Wheeler/status/808687198262403072

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Between the plutocrats and oligarchs and the yellow journalism, feels like we are at the dawn of the wrong century. Let me know when monocles make a comeback.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

psyched for the 'make america great again' stovepipe hats

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

http://www.vox.com/2016/12/13/13901874/obamacare-trump-voter-health-insurance-repeal

Sarah Kliff
Did you feel like you heard them talking about Obamacare repeal in the campaign?

Debbie Mills
Well, we did hear him talking about it some, that he was going to, but like I said, I always just thought that he was, if he changed it, it would be that it would be some other form of health insurance that he would have.

Sarah Kliff
No, I totally understand. During the debates, Trump was the one saying, “I'm going to cover everybody.”

Debbie Mills
I don't know. I guess the next four years is going to be different. I don't know what to look for. 

You're scaring me now, on the insurance part.

’Cause I have been in a panic, so I'm afraid now that the insurance is going to go away and we're going to be up a creek.

i imagine there are a lot of people coming to this realization

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

DT is basically like WC Fields running a "medicine show" con in his movies, only w/out the likability and drunkenness.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

"Don't drink that poison, it'll kill you."
"Fuck you! Water's the thing that'll kill you! I read it on Facebook!"
"Look, here's a list of proven things that will happen if you drink that poison."
"You don't tell me what to drink, motherfucker! Bottoms up!"
"So, well, now that you drank the poison, here's that list again."
"Oh, huh. Now that I'm seizing up and slowly dying, your list of reasons to not drink the poison make a lot of sense. Tell me it's going to be okay!"

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

has anyone thoroughly clowned that stupid game theory thing yet in column form cause some normally smart folks were RTing that today and it drove me nuts

http://gizmodo.com/men-please-stop-manthreading-1790036387

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

majority of the Energy Department's time/budget is devoted to moving around nuclear waste. sounds like a good job for a certified moron.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

i suggest they move it all to Perry's underwear drawer

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

xps thanks tombot

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

perry's nuclear waste plans in full

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DqwS0Ew77WE/hqdefault.jpg

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

dammit beaten to the punch by phil d

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

petulant manchildren: pick only one

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

manthreading

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

man.......threading

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

a thing that men do

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

that manthreading piece didn't seem to know what the word "prolific" means

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

yeah that was not the takedown I was hoping for

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

so glad we all canceled our NYT subscriptions but still have thoughtful pieces like that to click on. where else would i find my portmanteau neologisms to keep up with the kids?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

portmanteau neologisms

the next Parquet Courts album title

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

k3vin is so sad that I canceled my NYT subscription in 2010

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

I liked Jeet Heer's thread about representations of ppl having sex with animals and vegetables in Canadian fiction, more twitter threads like that please

soref, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I got no beef w Jeet

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

From that Vox bit:

Do you think if it does go away, you'll regret your vote in any way? Thinking, “I voted for this person who took away my health insurance.” Or … it's like, that's one of so many things, like you said, jobs, the economy?

Two things:

1) endless journos are still continually reinforcing the "trump voter" = "working class" = "rural white folks" connection, as if you have to drive a coupla hours west of the Acela corridor into deep coal country to talk to Trump voters and not, say, Staten Island

2) journos(and all of us, pretty much) do not understand how to talk to victims of a con

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

What should they have said?

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Trump voters are for sure varied, but working class/rural white folks, especially in red states, seem to vote as more of a bloc than, say, rich white educated people.

Some of these Trump supporters, they remind me of this guy I saw on the news once. There was a huge rainstorm, and a lot of the viaducts had flooding beneath them. A few feet of standing water. There was one guy being interviewed on the side of the road, and the newscaster motioned to his car, which was mostly submerged. "Didn't you see all the other cars stuck?" she asked. "Yeah," said the guy. "Then why did you think your car could make it?" He shrugs. "I don't know."

Where was it I read the observation that Americans deep down probably do want socialism, and that it's neoliberalism that turned them off this time around? I can sort of see that in the breakdown of recipients of government aid, how the red states (Trump people) get something like twice as much from the government despite contributing much less in taxes, vs. the blue states, who contribute more in taxes but get less in spending and projects and whatnot. Which in a way probably goes back to education, how little people really understand about the government, laws, civics, the things that affect them. When I read that interview with the woman in the Vox piece just upthread, I thought, huh, this is a person that seems like they'd really benefit from the security of liberal Federal aid, of a government safety net, but for myriad reasons is aligning herself with the party that's not just against that, but has worked for decades to prevent democrats from implementing policies that might help her.

It's pretty tragic, just a fundamental failure to understand the abstract and concrete roles and nuance of government, and the intricacies of contrasting/complementary policy. I can only hope (I guess?) that given Trump, etc. seems like the worst of every possible scenario across the board, that his failures will be much more obvious than Obama's perhaps more subtle successes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I think choosing someone from Kentucky legitimizes the person in the eyes of Trump supporters that may be reading. Imagine the spin "Well that was a Trump supporter from Staten Island, hardly someone from 'real America' therefore not exactly coming from the same place as most of us in the red states... I commend them for voting Trump, but still. Rural America is a different place."

xxp

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

http://gizmodo.com/men-please-stop-manthreading-1790036387

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gizmodo post manages to be dumber than the tweetstorm that inspired it

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

Well that's the strength of the marketing and messaging of the right. People in economic situations voting red when most of the things republican platforms push unquestionably directly disadvantage them- that's been the case for awhile now.

xxp

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

http://deadspin.com/triple-h-donald-trump-is-unclear-on-whether-wrestling-1790037536

Back in 2007, WWE ran a storyline that culminated with CEO Vince McMahon being blown up in a limo. You don’t need me to tell you that McMahon is still alive and was not actually blown to pieces, because you aren’t a moron who thinks wrestling is real. Apparently, the same cannot be said for our future president.

Last night, a 2008 clip from the Opie and Anthony Show began recirculating. In the clip, WWE wrestler/McMahon son-in-law Triple H briefly mentions the limo-explosion storyline, and then reveals that Donald Trump—a longtime pro wrestling performer, mind you—called McMahon’s office to find out if he had really died after the explosion aired.

nomar, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

ugh Kanye and trump meeting and the fact that it's being reported on like it's big news is so depressing. what a shit time to be alive

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

lol Trump frantically calling McMahon's office !! xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

the gizmodo post was at least readable

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

A lot of people think of democratic policies as an effort to redistribute wealth from the middle and working classes to the lumpenproletariat. People at the Sanders/Trump voters summit last night were convinced that if the minimum wage were raised, they'd end up paying for it via higher costs for goods and services. Xp

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link


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