Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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the good old days when this campaign was in free fall

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

ctrl-f "game theory"?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

i know gawker et al clown this guy but i found this is some bleak (and less unhinged than "game theory") reading https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/807994501977505792

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

is it customary for a contemporary GOPer to mention "peace" as romney does in that post? does that seem unusual to anyone else?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link

Jay Rosen Verified account
‏@jayrosen_nyu

19/ The problem is not at the level "how to cover Trump," but how to recover conditions in which anything journalists do makes a difference.

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link

also otm on twitter dot com

Rusty Foster
‏@rustyk5
"Rex Tillerson" is a Philip K Dick character name if I ever saw one

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link

has anyone thoroughly clowned that stupid game theory thing yet in column form cause some normally smart folks were RTing that today and it drove me nuts

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

I just think "Guys, it's time for some game theory" is a classic
I'm going to start using that at parties

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/808445203694682112

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link

I don't know who jay rosen is what his thoughts on game theory are but that series of tweets about press in the trump era were chilling

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link

β€œWe struggled to find voices that could advocate for Donald Trump’s ideas,” said James Bennet, the Times’ editorial-page editor.

from a link from that jay rosen tweetstorm. i can picture the aneurysm the times' standards editor just had

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

jay rosen is not thought highly of by actual journalists afaict (e.g. http://gawker.com/do-not-listen-to-the-crazy-man-telling-you-to-quit-your-1674046932) but yeah that's a dark thread. also actual journalists think the game theory thread is good writing https://storify.com/jbordeaux/a-patriot-game-theory

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

past a certain point I wonder if the NYT is going to tell its staff to stop talking about internals to WP colleagues

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

obv hamilton nolan is not an actual journalist, but that captures media twitter consensus.

anyway good thread, and i want to live.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:27 (seven years ago) link

re: game theory, glad someone finally has the balls to defend the surveillance state, that's really been lacking in the public discourse

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:27 (seven years ago) link

God, I didn't get to his stirring Bill Paxton fighting the aliens speech when I read it before.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

I think I'm just getting sick of reading tweetstorms about this shit
it seems like all these edumacated dudes on twitter are just having manic episodes or drunk in the middle of the day or both

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

This Bernie town hall in trump country thing is a pretty clever bit of political theater

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

Twitter should be reserved for links to cool shit to read and things to look at.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:43 (seven years ago) link

He won by 200 votes, according to Hayes.

It was very close in Kenosha County overall, which includes a lot of exurb. Clinton won the city of Kenosha going away.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 04:49 (seven years ago) link

The jay rosen twitter thread. The game theory one made me claw my eyes out and now i am just dictating this post to an associate

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

*jay rosen thread was good.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

so glad y'all are mocking that terrible game theory twitter rant

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

seeing stuff like this is so disheartening:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzgkO07VQAEVxDt.jpg:large

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:43 (seven years ago) link

(editor of Mother Jones)

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:43 (seven years ago) link

I don't understand how that thread is "game theory." It is just a recap of the history of the past decade and a half done in an infantile snark voice.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:46 (seven years ago) link

There aren't any new insights. It's clear that the Russian regime is interested in weakening states and alliances that stand in the way of its ambitions

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link

@KeithOlbermann
It's an attack by Russia. It's a coup. It's war. Those supporting it are TRAITORS. Brief the Electoral College NOW

WASHINGTON ― The former acting director of the CIA said Sunday that Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections constituted a significant attack on the United States, calling it β€œthe political equivalent of 9/11.”

β€œIt is an attack on our very democracy. It’s an attack on who we are as a people,” Mike Morell told The Cipher Brief.

idk where the hype goes from here.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link

The original 9/11 was, of course, not political at all.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link

Yeah like what is the plan here? Do they have a plan with this or do they think they're just going to hyperventilate him out of office?

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 06:02 (seven years ago) link

is it customary for a contemporary GOPer to mention "peace" as romney does in that post? does that seem unusual to anyone else?

Well, considering the job is Secretary of State..

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link

Ta-Nehisi Coates's has a new, huge longread out in the Atlantic. Saving this for after work.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link

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Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah like what is the plan here? Do they have a plan with this or do they think they're just going to hyperventilate him out of office?

I believe the technical term for the distal end of this trajectory is coup d'etat

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

It's remarkable how, with all of his shennanigans, Trump hasn't run afoul of the law in a way that could land him in jail (or at least hasn't been caught.)

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

what has he done that's illegal?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Nothing I guess but he does a lot of obnoxious, sneaky things, and runs his business/life in a way that had gotten him sued thousands of times. What's remarkable is that he hasn't crossed that line.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

Trump is as clear a refutation of the concept of justice as one is likely to encounter. Would love to see him finally face the consequences of something while in office but I'm not holding my breath.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

Alternately, his life is an equally-solid confirmation that it's totally possible to be endlessly rewarded for being the living embodiment of a diarrhea torrent.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link

what has he done that's illegal?

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:16 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sexually assault some folks iirc (allegedly, i know)

p sure he raped his first wife

i understand he won't be charged with those crimes because he's a bully but.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

the trump university stuff looked pretty out-and-out damning, although obviously it never made it to trial

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

He also paid a bunch of workers less than minimum wage and threatened to have them deported when they challenged it iirc

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

That was actually how Trump Tower was built. Through the labor of a bunch of undocumented Polish workers he treated abusively.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Aren't most of his legal troubles civil suits though (hence the faultless settlements), rather than criminal prosecutions?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

That he's completely lacking a moral center is inarguable. As is, I believe, the assertion that he's done something (probably many somethings) for which he would have done jail time for in a just world. There are very few crimes that I can't imagine him committing, frankly, and who knows what he'll get up to now that he's emboldened by holding the most powerful office in the country.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

"Cannibalism? Sure, I'll try it."

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

Xp Yeah -- that was my point about how its remarkable for him to be such a flagrant rule violator but never risk prison. In my view withholding wages is stealing.

Also he is totally a rapist but he was never charged unfortunately. Ivana's charges did show up in a deposition. His awfulness has brought him trouble in court but bizarrely not in a way that would prevent him from becoming the fucking president.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

i believe he's dead-set on abolishing incest law xp

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

It's a 'fun' (read: really scary) game. Knowing what we know about him, imagine Trump being presented with the opportunity to commit a consequence-free crime of any nature and turning down the opportunity.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link


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