Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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Aside from the arguments over what might and might not have happened, the whole election campaign exposed Eichenwald as a fantasist who knows nothing about Russia. Take anything he has written with massive emphasis handfuls of salt.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 December 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Not sure why my phone added emphasis there!

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 December 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

I took a call.
I heard the call.
This was a call.
I didn't make the call.
And it was a call.
Very short call.
It was a very nice call.
I can't take a call.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:11 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could only read this in Seinfeld's voice.

Evan, Sunday, 11 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link

:)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

US and Russia together go to war with Iran in order to split Iran's oil reserves

This would be a much bigger fiasco than the Soviets in Afghanistan or US in Iraq. It just plain would not work irl.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

I imagine "emphasis handfuls" to be the technical term for that gesture conductors make during crescendos like they're deadlifting the planet by her bazooms

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

Lol

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Did not know! Thanks - it's written in a tone of such authority.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

It's pretty insane to watch Joe Walsh slowly grow a conscience in the wake of all this Russia information.

https://twitter.com/walshfreedom/status/807703919069630464

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

i wonder how many more of those that supported trump in the election are already coming to terms with having been swindled

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

3?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

yeah none

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

oh OK thx

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

There's a whole tumblr for it y'all

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

sorry, an insignificant number of people

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

stop the straw-grasping. quit looking for silver linings. get ready for a fight

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

yeah, after 17 months of campaigning it isn't like people didn't know who they voted for

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

quit looking for silver linings. get ready for a fight

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:49 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Don't worry about Trump voters with buyer's remorse. Fight for your sick aunt's Medicaid benefits.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 December 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Despite their 60-seat deficit heading into 2016, the Democrats didn’t appear to do much candidate recruiting except in the most competitive districts. In Texas, Hillary Clinton won in a congressional district where Democrats didn’t even field a challenger. Numbers, not potential, guided the DCCC efforts. Instead of looking for possibilities, or trying to create them, the committee only paid attention to the districts that looked viable on spreadsheets.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/how-the-democratic-party-lost-its-way-214514

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 December 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link

Thanks, Obama

El Tomboto, Monday, 12 December 2016 04:54 (seven years ago) link

Thanks Pelosi

curmudgeon, Monday, 12 December 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

More like thx wasserman-schulz

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 December 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i realize the article was about the DCCC but it was weird to CTRL+F schulz and come up with 0 results

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 05:50 (seven years ago) link

thanks... ben ray luján?

simply gabbing a wonderful christmastime (crüt), Monday, 12 December 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link

i should have moved there and run

Treeship, Monday, 12 December 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link

freaking out about the weakness of the current democratic party is... it's a thing, i guess, but it's so remediable. some vanishingly small proportion of the electorate votes in the primaries. americans have given tremendous amounts of cash to a candidate as terrible as dr. jill stein, way more than during the election, because she's doing something the democratic party refuse to do. if the democratic party continues to refuse to listen to what we're saying, there's pretty good evidence that we have the power to change that. there's less evidence, but still decent evidence, that making that change will give us a better shot against the republicans. the biggest problem will be just fucking surviving the next two years.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

I realized this morning why Trump thinks the daily intelligence briefings are stale from day to day. It's because they're ordered on topic area and mostly focused on specific regions of interest- and his attention span can't get past the heading. "I heard about the South China Sea yesterday."

El Tomboto, Monday, 12 December 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

given that his objection to the daily intelligence briefing is that 'he's, like, a smart person' i genuinely suspect that he thinks it's an actual test of his intelligence every day rather than, y'know, information which might help govern the country

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

'they want me to take these iq tests every morning rather than letting me get on with making america great again!'

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

i hate to do the internecine bitching but man the violent and revolutionary rhetoric sucks. i'm not gonna say i don't sympathize or haven't had moments of "TEAR IT ALL DOWN" but you know talk to a therapist about it, don't post it on the public internet. even if you don't wind up getting busted for it, stuff like that can and will be used against us pretty easily.

sorry for getting all boring but i think a lot about the roman revolution, which octavian succeeded at by bringing about significant reforms which were _not_ portrayed as "revolutionary" but as a restoration of the ancient system. i'm not saying that the reforms we should be after are the same as octavian's (not super jazzed about the prospect of an American Empire), but strategically i feel like we should try to model ourselves after the winners like octavian, not the losers like marc antony.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link

reforms which were _not_ portrayed as "revolutionary" but as a restoration of the ancient system

so...make rome great again?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

It's a strange world we live in...never thought I'd see Establishment Dems go all HUAC, let alone Infowars! When Joy Reid and Joe Walsh are on the same page, we are in truly batshit territory.

Iago Galdston, Monday, 12 December 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

So China flew that plane before the Taiwan call?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

"Treason" is not a word I would've imagined trending among Portlandia types a year ago.

I wonder if Trump's boredom with repetition will extend to "Hail to the Chief," saluting the Marine detail, etc.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

Whatever the deal is with Russian interference, I can't really argue with it being investigated, and I hope the investigation does some damage to Trump and GOP credibility.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

"Treason" is not a word I would've imagined trending among Portlandia types a year ago.

this is such a weird claim, as if basic matters of state were something one leaves behind past a certain lefterly point on the political spectrum

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

LOL but its Morbs, what do you expect?

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

the real villain always has to be dems or popular modern comedy

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

reforms which were _not_ portrayed as "revolutionary" but as a restoration of the ancient system

so...make rome great again?

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

hahaha, augustus was a deeply charismatic political genius who put in place a system that survived close to 200 years of blatant misrule. i doubt history will judge a certain d. trump as favorably.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

this is such a weird claim, as if basic matters of state were something one leaves behind past a certain lefterly point on the political spectrum

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)

oh, it's the whole post-truth thing. "the center-left and the right are doing the SAME THING!". like all that matters is tactics and strategy, not facts.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

so this 'Russian interference,' so far as we know, amounted to uncovering the Podesta & Co emails, as far as we know? Which were read only by political junkies and TP types who wouldn't vote for Clinton in a million years. They didn't reveal much besides Camp Clinton struggling to make it look like their candidate believed in something/anything, which about half the ppl who voted for her knew was a problem.

the real villain is the rich, who need to be boiled and eaten.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

hahaha, augustus was a deeply charismatic political genius who put in place a system that survived close to 200 years of blatant misrule. i doubt history will judge a certain d. trump as favorably.

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, December 12, 2016 1

was he? Gibbon and SPQR posited Augustus as a kind of anti-charismatic ruler – a man who subsumed his personality for the sake of an idea of Rome.

Either way, not Trump.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

well, it's arguable (as is most of ancient history), but i'd say that you don't get augustan levels of auctoritas without charisma. but yeah. most definitely not trump.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

the real villain is the rich, who need to be boiled and eaten

no fuckin' way boiling is a waste of good meat. they need to be marinated then slow-cooked, i really wanna relish the taste of their flesh

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link


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