pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Jenny Hval is such a crock of shit.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

otm

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

as is that list! (yeah I can still play here lol)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

The "The 20 Best Experimental Albums of 2016" list makes it clear why they felt the need to end the Out Door.

Still you have to give them props for the concept

banfred bann (wins), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

Website Devoted to Rapper Beefs and Bon Iver In Not Making Totally Awesome List of Experimental Music Albums Shockah

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

was wondering why there wasn't really any ambient in the electronic music list and i guess that's bc it's experimental

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Website Devoted to Rapper Beefs and Bon Iver In Not Making Totally Awesome List of Experimental Music Albums Shockah

They actually did do a decent job of it until the Out Door got the boot though.

Position Position, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

cool that Kaitlyn Aurelia Pablum got that second placement

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

all of these women, being ranked improperly

nomar, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

ikr where's katie gately

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

nah I'll listen to their playlist I guess

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

They actually did do a decent job of it until the Out Door got the boot though.

― Position Position, Friday, December 9, 2016 12:04 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree, that was one of the few things that I ever went to Pitchfork to read. Now I check in if I'm curious about Bill Murray or Solange or Stranger Things for some reason

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

agree that this site has declined since the conde nast deal but have you even listened to the solange album? why would it be out of scope for the site?

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

For one thing, I'm not really interested in pop music, generally speaking, but it isn't the pop music criticism that puts me off so much as the lifestyle reporting and obsession with celebrities doing celebrity things

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

the Solange album is not pop music. Glance at the Hot 100.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

Didn't Seat At The Table reach #1 in the States? I'm sorry to use Solange as an example because I know very little about her music other than it seems to appeal to a wider demo than the music I like usually appeals to. I have never once glanced at the Hot 100, for instance, and unless Esperanza or Miranda Lambert or Erykah Badu is on there (probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016) I'm pretty sure I haven't listened to anything on it.

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Badu had an album in 2016?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

that's his point

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

thought his point was that Spalding, Lambert and Badu were "probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016"?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/

scott seward, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

it wasn't on their experimental top 20 list, but that blessed initiative album that pfork reviewed today is a really great headphones listen - very tactile scrunchy foley artist music

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

that isn't remotely close to what I meant, come the fuck on

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jesus Christ dude...

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

lmao

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

this experimental music playlist is extremely woke and incredibly boring

not even sure most of this is really all that experimental? it's certainly not making me think 'whoa, i've not heard much like this before!'

would endorse anna meredith as the compositions are dynamic and arresting, maybe elysia crampton is doing some cool stuff too and tt is telling me to persist with amnesia scanner (and there MIGHT be something to that jefre chap) but really 'pablum' is the word for most of this stuff, it's a bland morass.

i guess you take what you can from this stuff but it really is a disappointing show

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

Oh haha wait here's Matmos :D

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

Oh there's something to Moor Mother too now. SALVAGING SOMETHING AT THE DEATH

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link

i'll be honest with you, with something named "the out door" i expect a column dedicated to exploring the underwhelming final records by massively popular bands.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

would read that column actually

Wimmels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?????

lex pretend, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link

if you're an unknown, ranking #100 on pitchfork's top 100 is orders of magnitude more valuable than ranking, say, #32

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:19 (seven years ago) link

because you're the first thing that people read, and in a position where people still have the attention span to read the entry instead of skimming over it

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link

just getting a lil deep about lil peep, sorry

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link

Lil Peep becoming a breakout star in 2017 would be a very interesting experience. I would bring out the popcorn for that

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 06:33 (seven years ago) link

ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

"sponsorship is evil" stuff aside.....pandora? really?

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link

i honestly thought pitchfork and apple music were cushy so this is really weird to me, but maybe im totally off base

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:42 (seven years ago) link

sweet #1 choice

flappy bird, Monday, 12 December 2016 07:40 (seven years ago) link

Chance and Kanye have like ten appearances each on there

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link

And there should've been more: Fade, Finish Line/Drown, Same Drugs, Father Stretch My Hands pt 1... great year for both of them, really

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 08:17 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/70394-adventure-time-islands-miniseries-announced/

so is this the first one that has nothing to do with music and doesn't even try to?

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

Wait, what? I'm so confused. Why is there a news story about a children's TV show on there?

Position Position, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

hipster millennials love adventure time

j., Monday, 12 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Golden Globe nominees story was worse

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link

Pandora's about to roll out its on-demanding streaming service. First step is targeting the Whitney fans.

> ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:47 (seven years ago) link

U GUYS

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/70351/c22ba646.jpg

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year but boss asks you to play nice with the internet's biggest gathering place of unrepentant racists, creep-shot enthusiasts and kid-touchers

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year

i've said this before and i'll say it again

the more performatively woke an outlet, the more likely they are to treat (ALSO PAY) their inexperienced POC and LGBT writers badly

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Wut? Surely you're not suggesting they pay POC and LGBT writers less? I know the whole enterprise is crashing downhill, but that seems highly unlikely to me.

Position Position, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link


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