I think it's an enjoyable record, musically. Don't find the lyrics amazing, but they work within the context of the album and I am not too offended by the persona - kinda like how I feel abt Drake.
I know what would've really pissed me off years ago would be the shameless samples, just reusing popular hooks without much creative input, but for some reason I've been desensitized to this.
Also, it's perhaps a bit of a letdown that with all the studio money and input from other artists that Kanye wasn't able to make a 'great' record, maybe it's even a bit offensive, wasted opportunities, but again, I can't truly be bothered, I enjoy the record (okay there's a few tracks I skip, but I've seen other posters say they like those)
― niels, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
the only people I know who haven't been thoroughly turned off by Kanye for damn near the past decade are music critics. obviously there are communities that still have love for him, my own cohort of friends/colleagues is hardly representative of America as a whole, but it's still been a weird disconnect. little wonder that he gets (mostly jokingly) likened to Trump, they both manage to be simultaneously widely hated and yet "popular."
― evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
it's weird was talking with a young guy at work and i forget that i think of kanye as the great roc-a-fella rap producer who's gotten kinda goofy in recent years, but now there's a whole bunch of kids who don't know anything but kanye the "outrageous" "controversial" dude (basically post 808s)
i (tried to) listen to 808s yesterday and while it may be in many ways the most influential rap album of the last decade what a fucking dismal slog that is to listen to now, especially as many of its stylistic autotune quirks are now lingua franca of the hip hop industry
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
yeah I was a huge Kanye stan for the first few albums but 808s is where he started to lose me. I've liked scattered songs/appearances since then but nothing more.
― evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
I'm grateful to see people itt explain how I don't know what I like and also thanks for suggesting I have any sympathy for Kanye's public persona or the hyperbole surrounding MBDTF and anything Kanye-related
around here it seems like anyone who likes any post-808s Kanye is seen as a hype-dupe
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
ha, I've long thought I came off as a crusty old curmudgeon for feeling the opposite.
― evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
i loved 808s but despair at its influence via drake resulting in shit like gnash
― maura, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
guess who just walked into trump tower
― maura, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
pablo
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
Donald Trump?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
I hope kanye doesn't get a cabinet position. Not because he'd be worse than the clowns that Trump has already picked but because if kanye joined the administration I really wouldn't be able to keep defending him
― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
There's a line. And that's the line.
wow there's a line!
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
a solid blue baseball cap, backwards. there's a line.
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
http://m.tmz.com/2016/12/13/donald-trump-kanye-west-trump-tower/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
red baseball caps have a history of being appropriated by douchebags
does this mean he is performing at the inauguration ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
well, he didn't say no
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
I think at this point we can all agree that black dudes who aren't named Sisqo should stop bleaching their hair
― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/DennisThePerrin/status/808723085818036224
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTQSON9dSk
― Treeship, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link
I think at this point we can all agree that black dudes who aren't named Sisqo should stop bleaching their hair― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:16 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:16 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's possible he's transitioning to be a Trump body double, in the vein of Saddam Hussein or Liberace
― simply gabbing a wonderful christmastime (crüt), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link
the hair is fine. my issue is that it looks like trump is setting him up to be his new celebrity surrogate. (1:35 - an uncharacteristically warm trump says "you take care of yourself, i'll see you soon.")
― Treeship, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:47 (seven years ago) link
― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:16 PM (seven hours ago)
i appreciate the sisqo exception this dude was ok imo
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 December 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link
kayne's the only celeb I can think of not already associated with the right wing who's voiced pro-Trump sentiments so of course Trump invited him over to discuss bleach problems
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
wish kanye would go full simon phoenix with this look
http://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/simonphoenix.jpg
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
is bleached hair not common among black US sports stars?
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link
or did dennis rodman ruin it for everyone else
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
It's not uncommon. Odell Beckham Jr. has bleached hair
― altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
So I guess Donald Trump cares about black people?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link
Donald Trump cares about rich people.
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
tom
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link
otm
Killer Mike said in 2006, "George Bush don't care about poor people, black or white," and that was probably closer to the mark than Kanye's famous quote.
― altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link
think this is some reddit project or something, can't find too much info on it , i quite like it tho
https://thepablocollective.bandcamp.com/releases
― nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 10:20 (seven years ago) link