Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

i apologise if i misunderstood!

my favourite detail from that episode was tuvok's revelation that vulcan's get hornier as they get older, which means spock-prime in the first jj abrams trek movie must have been a total fuck-machine

oh I was trying to remember if there was more than one horny Tuvok episode

I was thinking of the whole "Tuvok's ill and we're stuck far away and he has to mind meld with a Vulcan to get well" bit, maybe. Or there is another horny Tuvok episode.

wiki to the rescue:

In the Voyager episode "Blood Fever" Vulcan Ensign Vorik experiences pon farr and attempts to mate with B'Elanna Torres. Due to a partial empathic bond, Torres experiences pon farr as well. Vorik attempts to control the pon farr through meditation, drugs and a holodeck mate, while Torres, trapped on an away mission, nearly mates with Tom Paris. The pon farr is eventually resolved when Torres and Vorik battle together in the ritual fight kunat kal-if-fee on the planet.

In Voyager, Tuvok experienced pon farr while the vessel was trapped far away from any other Vulcans, and so was unable to mate with his wife. Initially he claimed that he had Tarkalean flu to the crew to spare the embarrassment of discussing his actual condition. He attempted to control the pon farr through meditation and drugs, but he was not ultimately successful until he met with his wife in a holodeck program.

glad we got to the bottom of this horny-vulcan conundrum eventually

meditation, drugs and a holodeck mate

life goals af tbh

idk resembles my lifestyle a little too much already

waitaminute

Initially he claimed that he had Tarkalean flu to the crew to spare the embarrassment of discussing his actual condition

isn't embarrassment an emotion? wouldn't the logical thing for tuvok to do just be for him to be straight-up and 'guys i gotta fuck real bad can someone help out?'

he was sparing his crewmates' embarrassment, not his own

vulcans are exceedingly polite, it's true

https://twitter.com/NYPD106Pct/status/806870692318892032

Death Wish reboot with Worf.

Quark travels back in time to NYC in 1976 and attempts to sell weapons to Robert De Niro's character from 'Taxi Driver'.

At least he finally listened to his cousin Gaila.

turns out DS9 is really good! i'm about halfway through season 1 and it's a very cool cast of characters with what seems like lots of possibilities for stories.

last night i watched "Progress", where Kira is tasked with removing someone from their land who would rather die than leave, and she is wrestling with this cos the same thing happened to her, and now she is on the other side of that power balance, and is torn. it was really good and felt very much like classic ST.

Did you see this?
Deep Space Nine: a thread for (re)watching this awesome series

I'm most of the way through season 3 at this point, and it's getting better and better. I love the character of Garak!

much love <3

If you like it halfway through season one, you're going to LOVE it once it hits its stride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM-KpMeDqK4

Lol awesome

That's hilarious.

oh god it took me way too long to realize what was going on

It's the Machine That Goes "Ping!" of the sci-fi world.

Haha, I love the last clip.

And I hope that machine gets residuals.

Did we talk about "Who Watches the Watchers" somewhere? I love how unabashedly it insults religion, and how anything that could go wrong does in the campest way possible. Also one of the proto-Vulcans gets possessed by Bob.

can't quite remember how the one dude went from worshiping picard to shooting him two minutes later

i voted for that one

I should've voted for it too!

can't quite remember how the one dude went from worshiping picard to shooting him two minutes later

Since the Picard was supposed to be all-powerful, an arrow wouldn't be able to wound him.

rewatched the motion picture last night and noticed how it has the best-looking enterprise interior but the worst uniforms

the scene in who watches the watchers where picard helps the alien villager along to a rational understanding of their equality -- "i do not fear you any longer" -- is as trek as you can get, i rly find it beautiful w the starfield slowly passing in the background.

as scripted it's the Federation Spreading Enlightenment but imo stewart puts over well that he is having a bewildering+transformative experience too. i'm not sure there are any better single scenes about contact even in darmok.

also am willing to admit that shatner in the same scene would have looked smug as fuck even before they started making out.

been watching TNG -- started with the ones on the top-40 list then stopped and went back to the beginning of season 3. too much at once really points out how hard it is to make things difficult for our heroes -- subspace interference/radiation storms/tachyon particles always messing with the warp drive amirite -- but it's pretty good. 'the inner light' made me cry

wesley still sux

lol in that interview when he can't remember Troi's name

What interview?

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/26/rick-berman-talks-18-years-of-trek-in-extensive-oral-history

got my threads mixed up, this was posted in DS9 talk

Did anyone read '50 Year Mission: the first 25 years'?

"Rascals" -- not that bad! I could've done without any of the Ferengi stuff, though, and the episode would've been massively improved if it focused merely on the affected individuals. The Ro/Guinan scenes are lovely.

you didn't like #1 dad joke?

No, #1 dad joke was hilarious! I think that the mandate to have an episode centered around some kind of existential peril was a missed opportunity for more lolz.

Just watched "A Taste of Armageddon" -- so gonzo! It starts off with a provocative premise then dives off the deep end.

Amazingly beautiful guest actresses, though.

http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2017/01/star-trek-discovery-gets-stuck-in-spacedock-for-at-least-a-little-longer/

Other than it being in the right timeline and having a female lead, none of the recent news about this show has me feeling optimistic.

A Taste of Armageddon could be remade nicely in the drone era

https://youtu.be/xd904wRUxcA

been watching season 2 of DS9. there's one episode ("Shadowplay") where they find a village where people keep disappearing. eventually they figure out that the entire village is a hologram, multiple generations of AI living out entire lifespans. they shut it down to reboot it and everyone disappears except for one person - the man who created it. rather than take him away or get him help they end up turning the hologram back on and just saying bye and leaving!

it was weird. it almost felt like they were enabling him. Trek is usually pretty adept at exploring "What does it mean to be human?" but not sure in this case it works very well.

would it really have been more satisfying for them to take him away, where he'd never be heard of again? recently saw 'future imperfect' (similar plot + riker is tricked into thinking he's 16 years in the future) where that indeed happens

idk, the entire franchise is kind of terrible at writing endings. there are obvious exceptions, but for the most part things just go back to the way they were 45 minutes earlier, with no ramifications

To play devil's advocate, I think that the episode is asserting that the old dude created sentient AI (which had the ability to reproduce and propagate itself), and that that community was a real community. Also, he was old, let him keep his quality of life!

i haven't seen that one but it sounds like a rework of tng's "the survivors" where they leave the magical old guy with his fake wife.

a rework of tng's "the survivors" where they leave the magical old guy with his fake wife

which sounds suspiciously like a rework of a TSOL episode

To play devil's advocate, I think that the episode is asserting that the old dude created sentient AI (which had the ability to reproduce and propagate itself), and that that community was a real community. Also, he was old, let him keep his quality of life!

oh yeah, i think Dax actually says all of that. and Odo even formed a strong friendship w that girl. maybe the prime directive now includes AI due to TNG's Exocomps incident.

maybe the prime directive now includes AI due to TNG's Exocomps incident.

TNG also broached AI sentience with Data in season 2's "Measure of a Man".