Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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sorry, i've been grumpy for several months

Karl Malone, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

the republican race is arbitrary. none of those losers is going to be president.

― Treeship, Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:22 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That is lovely wishful thinking the Huffington Treesh, but in sober reality what is actually going to happen is that more republican voters are going to vote than democrat voters, and they are going to elect president Donald whatever Trump

― • (sleepingbag), Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:26 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Truly impressed that you both know exactly what is going to happen in the future

― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:36 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no only me

― • (sleepingbag), Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:37 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sleepingbag, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

I have adjusted my view of America after November 8th, but I don't think Trump ever did anything surprising during the whole campaign, nor this transition period?

Frederik B, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

Sorry, sleepingbag, but April 27 clearly falls outside the "July 2015-November 7 2016" time frame Karl referenced above.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

adjust yr bifocals and try again

sleepingbag, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

sorry i just... this is fun

kinda surprised everyone is freaking out so hard about PRESIDENT TRUMP, calm down you guys

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:28 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's going to happen. dems have been bigger idiots than reps this election by like a million miles. they've talked themselves into believing that 'old white guy with empty promises' represents a real political revolution, and on the other hand have managed to paint their own 'potential first woman president in us history' as worse than hitler. meanwhile every time trump says something that you think should end his candidacy... really, where do y'all think this is going?

― • (sleepingbag), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:48 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really, where do y'all think this is going?

Trump needs huge chunks of a population that currently hates him to vote for him. how is that going to happen. There are just not enough angry white guys to win the office anymore, that is a demographic fact.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:55 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sleepingbag, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

taylor swift look like a lorax

― • (sleepingbag), Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:42 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Go fuck yourself.

― markers, Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:43 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sleepingbag, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

Hahaha

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

He must have realized that even Palin was mad about the Carrier deal, back to tariffs and protectionism... on Twitter... in the middle of the night.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

I don't think you can say he's not charismatic. He's a TV star! His charisma might not work on you personally, but objectively he obviously has star power.

― birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:32 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's a diff between being charismatic and being on TV a lot, as if simple repetition generates charisma.

His charisma is, like, the reassuring appeal of your barista or your mechanic being dumber than you are.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

i mean he's just a blustering asshole, which i understand has charismatic appeal for a lot of people. plus he's very good at making himself the news (cf. john barron)! but i have been sick of his shit for like three plus decades now :\

maura, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

He's not charismatic, but people find sociopathic bluster and insensitivity alluring for some stupid reason. Cf. When people admire someone for "not giving a fuck"

Treeship, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

he's got a certain new yorker playboy flair. he's been on TV shows and in rap songs for decades

k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

“Trump was a businessman and an entrepreneur,” Putin said in the interview, which also touched on international affairs, including the war in Syria. “Now he’s a government official, now he’s the head of the United States of America, one of the leading countries of the world, one of the world’s leading economies, one of the world’s leading military states. To the extent that he was able to achieve success in business, this shows that he’s a smart person. And if he’s a smart person, that means that he will totally and quite quickly understand the different level of his responsibility. We presume that he will act based on this position.”

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

Remind me of how they reacted to the warship deal.

iirc, they lodged a formal complaint, called the US ambassador in for a bollocking - saying it threatened permanent damage to Sino-US relations and promised a wave of retaliatory sanctions against any US business involved in any aspect of the agreement. The reaction to this has been relatively mild so far.

Yes, well, the warship deal was a, how do I put this, an agreement under which the US would sell Taiwan warships, whereas the topic in question this week is an idiot taking a phone call he shouldn't have. But as long as apples = oranges supports your theorem of how Trump is totally being strategic, hey, who am I

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

xpost At least Putin knows he's spouting complete bullshit, as opposed to most of the people who affirm Trump's intelligence and ever-impending maturation.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

I liked this bit of detail:

Putin called Trump “talented” and “colorful” during the U.S. election campaign (Trump said Putin had called him “a genius,” thanks to a mistranslation)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

excited to see trump doubling down on china

, Monday, 5 December 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

The restaurant’s owner and employees were threatened on social media in the days before the election after fake news stories circulated claiming that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief were running a child sex ring from the restaurant’s back rooms. Even Michael Flynn, a retired general who President-elect Trump has tapped to advise him on national security, shared the stories.

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

So Joe Lieberman is still alive, I assumed he had crawled under a rock and died
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/joe-lieberman-democrats-left-taking-over/2016/12/04/id/762064/

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

Fucking idiot

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

Imagine the voice, trembling with outrage.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

Not you milo, lieberman.

"To me, both parties better watch out not to go back to the extremes —— left and right —— and not working with each other," he said.

What extremism are we seeing in the democratic party that goes beyond basic new deal ideology? Meanwhile the republicans are gleefully inspiring attempted mass shooters by convincing them that democratic politicians are pedophiles.

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

And tweeting a bunch of provocative, insulting shit about China in the middle of the day as if China was some sort of celebrity rival

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

"Even Michael Flynn, a retired general who President-elect Trump has tapped to advise him on national security, shared the stories."

This is terrifying

jmm, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that guy is a fucking lunatic

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

DC Police has confirmed the assault was PizzaGate related.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link

Wait, not assault, he had an assault weapon - I think - didn't assault anyone. Sorry.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

posted above

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

Fucking rube loons are convinced this is an "inside job"-type incident: a left-wing elite conspiracy to discredit pizzagate so Democrats can continue doing what the most love: ruining the lives of innocent children. I can't even.

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

*they most love

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

i honestly can't even bring myself to read about "pizzagate"

k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link

not the shooting, but the whole controversy. there's no way i don't come out of that a little dumber

k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link

Jet fuel can't melt real cheese

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

A+

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 5 December 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link

It's about ethics in pizza journalism

jmm, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

I really want this to be more funny dumb online shit, but gunman showing up plus Mike Flynn's son tweeting about it is not sitting well with me. Apparently Mike Flynn himself also made some reference to unspecified "pedophilia investigations" in discussing Clinton-related stuff on Fox News

xpost the story above is the shit I find myself most terrified in the "post-fact" landscape. I might not bat an eyelid if some idiot wants to post some Snopes-debunked horseshit on FB, but when they're shooting outside a Planned Parenthood or bringing a deadly assault weapon to a pizza parlor....that's terrifying, and it can happen pretty much fucking anywhere.

Neanderthal, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:15 (seven years ago) link

replace can with will and welcome to the next four years

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm trying to repress these feelings, see...

Neanderthal, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

I'm still thinking about that woman whose Twitter feed I posted. Like, what if you asked her, would you support abortion being illegal throughout the country? Would she be into that? Opposed to that? She didn't come off as religious.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 5 December 2016 04:54 (seven years ago) link

she'd probably be down with that ban. a lot of pro-life people don't take any kind of larger view of the issue of abortion -- how it relates to women's autonomy over their own health decisions, how before abortion's legalization it happened anyway but was dangerous, etc. they just look at the issue in itself and decide they are uncomfortable with the idea so it shouldn't happen.

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link

I think the vast majority of people involved in "pizzagating" don't really believe it, it's total 4chan schtick. The hard part is figuring out who if anyone actually does, it's like a turing test for basement-dwelling losers.

Well it was banned from /r/the_donald, then it was banned from /r/conspiracy to /r/pizzagate, then it was banned from Rediit in it's entirety, so by this stage if you've followed it to voat.co (which is running rife with 'false flag' and 'the Oregonian ran an article about this 10 hours before it happened') then you're either a true believer or you're pretty dedicated to exoteric lols.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link

wtf is voat.co ?

flappy bird, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:51 (seven years ago) link

Well I don't know what it was a fortnight ago, but now it's mostly "the Reddit clone tha pizzagate moved to"

https://voat.co/v/all/top

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 5 December 2016 07:10 (seven years ago) link

Ben Carson, u got a job despite yr protestations

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link

i guess trump can now cross 'diversity?' off the to-do list he scrawled on the back of an envelope on nov 9

the criss angel's death song (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link


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