Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

winning elections are not a slamdunk just bcz you're smart and coherent

morbz otm here

who the fuck knows what wouldve happened

I'm a big Warren fan but after Dukakis and Kerry (and Romney), a Massachusetts politician did not seem like a slam dunk winner at all.

she might make a fine candidate at some point

she is going to be 71 at the time of the next circus.

can we get Elizabeth II to run

warren's from oklahoma. she might have been adopted by the state and is a MA senator, but she's nowhere comparable to being a native like kerry or dukakis. she grew up in the realest of 'real america'.

Trump wd've yelled "Pocahontas" for 6 months and perhaps won

not sure if anyone posted this P4reene devil's-advocate piece that shoots down the Dem laments

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-to-talk-to-your-shithead-liberal-nephew-over-the-ho-1789319216

WI judge rejects stoppage of recount

I saw reports of people working the recount griping that this was taking place 'during the holidays' yet the recount has to be done and the vote certified by 12/13

So why is Trump, Inc., trying to stop the recounts? Gotta admit, not a good look to claim the election is rigged, win anyway, re-insist it's rigged and that there was fraud, and then sue to stop recounts.

Trump does and says what he wants without any regard to consistency, logic or common sense. Get used to it, I guess.

Trump doesn't care about nagl.

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

― akm, Friday, December 2, 2016 3:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those are the 2 i had in mind

so, Exxon for Sec of State?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-anderson/trump-may-tap-overpaid-oi_b_13375562.html

Raymond retired from ExxonMobil at the end of 2005, and his near $70 million in compensation for the year seemed, at the time, a more than ample reward for his career of service to company shareholders. Company directors disagreed. This past April, news reports revealed that Raymond walked off into the retirement sunset with a going-away pay package that sets a staggeringly new golden parachute standard.

This retirement package — a grab-bag of stock options, restricted stock awards from previous years, retirement-independent salary, and bonuses, plus a $1 million consulting contract, security services, a car and driver, access to the company corporate jet, and $210,800 in country club fees — would add up to nearly $400 million.

“He is a porker of the first order,” executive pay expert Graef Crystal told Bloomberg after the news of Raymond’s good fortune broke. “Those CEOs out there who are doing better at the trough must be thrilled he’s flying fighter cover for them.”

If he had to liquidate his stock options like Hank Paulson did he wont take a loss. Exxon's stock in 2005 was around 50. Today its trading at $87

"yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy"

well yeah, she's actually a democrat and Sanders was/is not.

and yet Schumer named him to the leadership team. cuuuuurious

Kinda lol but mostly sad

Trump 'll say ppl are FANTASTIC, GOOD PEOPLE to literally anyone who dials him on his My First Phone now won't he?

Good luck world.

Ugh this fucking guy!

my spouse is mad at me now because i refuse to be treated by doctors who are members of the ama. i understand the concern, but if we only object when it is convenient for us, we're not going to ever accomplish anything, will we?

i want to see his official ranking of countries with the most intelligent people

we have a child as president (and commander in chief of armed forces)

surprised this wasn't posted. real good:

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/now-is-the-time-to-talk-about-what-we-are-actually-talking-about?mbid=social_facebook

this seems like it is a bad idea

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-taiwan/index.html?adkey=bn

was just coming here to comment on that, terrifying

trump's been quite open about wanting a fucking trade war with china so I guess he'll get it

tbf who else is China gonna sell all their crap to

(not that I am looking forward to this, just joeks bruv)

I was listening to some Black Metal (Coven, or Evil Ways Instead of Love by Cultes des Ghoules ) while opening the CNN link, not realizing it would have Wolf talking right away - creepy indeed!

Going to (trade?/currency?) war with China, just so that Trump Org can get a new hotel licensee.

Trump wants to expand business empire to Taiwan, creating another potential conflict of interest

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139?cmpid=sf

through the looking glass

On the bright side, this may mean no Secretary Palin.

which one's the heel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2eKdQ1gqI

euphenism yo. new word for lie.

Somehow didn't realize until now that Trump actually tweets back at people in his threads, both supporters and detractors.

The Taiwan phone call seems overblown in the context of the US selling close to $2bn of weapons to Taipei over the last two years alone, though it is symbolic . The bigger issue will be Trump's aggressive stance on the valuation of the Yuan and whether additional tariffs will be brought in to try to force them to change it. It's easy to say when you want to boost the prospects for US manufacturing but less easy to do when China holds such a large proportion of US debt.

I think you've already thought this out far more than he has.

He's got hotel interests in Taiwan. The end.

I assume he's got hotel interests almost everywhere there are people, not least because "his" hotels are often just licensing his name, which gets slapped on front.

Duterte: Trump says Philippines tackling drug problem 'the right way'

Our president elect just endorsed police murdering suspects; death squads murdering informants, human rights activists, and journalists; and fathomless police corruption.

tbf there's no evidence trump actually said this, and if he did say it it there's no evidence he has any idea what's going on in the phillippines

There is no evidence Trump understands anything. That's not a defense of all the dumb shit he does. He took a job.

No defense, just saying the issue is "Trump has no clue" not "Trump loves murder"

The Duerte thing is troubling, but I think there's a better than decent chance that Trump never said anything and Duerte made it up completely

The Taiwan phone call seems overblown in the context of the US selling close to $2bn of weapons to Taipei over the last two years alone, though it is symbolic

The weapons trade with Taiwan has been going on for decades as well as the constant USN and USAF presence in key parts of the Pacific. It's not like we hide all that, or the existence of the AIT and TECRO. In fact, hey look it's all right here: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35855.htm

The phone call is symbolic of our President-Elect is a dipshit.

The Duterte thing is approximately as troubling and nominating an AG who cast a symbolic vote to allow the US armed forces to torture people. So whether he said anything about Filipino law enforcement techniques or not, he's been pretty clear.

I've had arguments with Trumpeters about Duterte on other forums. In their media echo chamber, Duterte has made the Davao City and the Phillipines safer places, which is pretty much the opposite of the facts on the ground. We know that the PEOTUS seems to pay attention to the same echo chamber, rather than ethical journalists or even his own intelligence briefings.

Given the Argentina, Pakistan, and Taiwanese phone call gaffes, Duterte's description of his phone call seems par for course.

The weapons trade with Taiwan has been going on for decades as well as the constant USN and USAF presence in key parts of the Pacific. It's not like we hide all that, or the existence of the AIT and TECRO. In fact, hey look it's all right here: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35855.htm

The phone call is symbolic of our President-Elect is a dipshit.

US policy on Taiwan has been to edge closer to treating it as a de facto state, while maintaining the official 'one China' policy and the idea that a phone call from a president elect is a huge change of course seems a bit of a stretch. As president elect, Obama was in direct contact with Ma Ying-Jeou, albeit via letter, to congratulate him on his election win - which came shortly after Obama's own and has pushed for Taiwan to be included in a number of international federations (in addition to the billions of dollars of defensive weapons sold).

It's a fairly easy bit of symbolism for Trump - cutting through the fiction that the US does not have contact with senior Taiwanese politicians, showing his base that he's not afraid of China and giving a domestic message that diplomacy will not be business as usual. Actually breaking with the 'one China' policy would be massive, Trump meeting with Tsai face to face as president would be big, but there's still a question mark over whether he would ever actually do either of those things.