Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

nobody even remembers senator claghorn anymore

i say, i say, son

(i know who Fred Allen was)

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

I still think is the best election overview, if I haven't posted it.

xp it was Warren, according to someone I know who worked w/her on the TARP bailout

i think it's probably OK that Elizabeth Warren remains in the Senate for the time being. she might make a fine candidate at some point but having strong dem voices in the legislature is important

if warren would have run, she likely would have won the nomination and would now be president

she didn't not run 'so that clinton could get her turn', she didn't run because *that was definitely not apparent at the time*

hey all I'm saying is that someone who worked on her staff told me that Warren was specifically told not to run, whether by HRC or DNC I dunno, not verified, just hearsay

'told' is probably the wrong verb here - she doesn't have a boss. I am sure lots of high level democrats individually advised her against running because it seemed at the time like it would be a lost cause.

yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy

there's no way of knowing what kind of national-campaign politician EW would have been. P4reene made this point in the spring.

winning elections are not a slamdunk just bcz you're smart and coherent

morbz otm here

who the fuck knows what wouldve happened

I'm a big Warren fan but after Dukakis and Kerry (and Romney), a Massachusetts politician did not seem like a slam dunk winner at all.

she might make a fine candidate at some point

she is going to be 71 at the time of the next circus.

can we get Elizabeth II to run

warren's from oklahoma. she might have been adopted by the state and is a MA senator, but she's nowhere comparable to being a native like kerry or dukakis. she grew up in the realest of 'real america'.

Trump wd've yelled "Pocahontas" for 6 months and perhaps won

not sure if anyone posted this P4reene devil's-advocate piece that shoots down the Dem laments

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-to-talk-to-your-shithead-liberal-nephew-over-the-ho-1789319216

WI judge rejects stoppage of recount

I saw reports of people working the recount griping that this was taking place 'during the holidays' yet the recount has to be done and the vote certified by 12/13

So why is Trump, Inc., trying to stop the recounts? Gotta admit, not a good look to claim the election is rigged, win anyway, re-insist it's rigged and that there was fraud, and then sue to stop recounts.

Trump does and says what he wants without any regard to consistency, logic or common sense. Get used to it, I guess.

Trump doesn't care about nagl.

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

― akm, Friday, December 2, 2016 3:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those are the 2 i had in mind

so, Exxon for Sec of State?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-anderson/trump-may-tap-overpaid-oi_b_13375562.html

Raymond retired from ExxonMobil at the end of 2005, and his near $70 million in compensation for the year seemed, at the time, a more than ample reward for his career of service to company shareholders. Company directors disagreed. This past April, news reports revealed that Raymond walked off into the retirement sunset with a going-away pay package that sets a staggeringly new golden parachute standard.

This retirement package — a grab-bag of stock options, restricted stock awards from previous years, retirement-independent salary, and bonuses, plus a $1 million consulting contract, security services, a car and driver, access to the company corporate jet, and $210,800 in country club fees — would add up to nearly $400 million.

“He is a porker of the first order,” executive pay expert Graef Crystal told Bloomberg after the news of Raymond’s good fortune broke. “Those CEOs out there who are doing better at the trough must be thrilled he’s flying fighter cover for them.”

If he had to liquidate his stock options like Hank Paulson did he wont take a loss. Exxon's stock in 2005 was around 50. Today its trading at $87

"yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy"

well yeah, she's actually a democrat and Sanders was/is not.

and yet Schumer named him to the leadership team. cuuuuurious

Kinda lol but mostly sad

Trump 'll say ppl are FANTASTIC, GOOD PEOPLE to literally anyone who dials him on his My First Phone now won't he?

Good luck world.

Ugh this fucking guy!

my spouse is mad at me now because i refuse to be treated by doctors who are members of the ama. i understand the concern, but if we only object when it is convenient for us, we're not going to ever accomplish anything, will we?

i want to see his official ranking of countries with the most intelligent people

we have a child as president (and commander in chief of armed forces)

surprised this wasn't posted. real good:

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/now-is-the-time-to-talk-about-what-we-are-actually-talking-about?mbid=social_facebook

this seems like it is a bad idea

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-taiwan/index.html?adkey=bn

was just coming here to comment on that, terrifying

trump's been quite open about wanting a fucking trade war with china so I guess he'll get it

tbf who else is China gonna sell all their crap to

(not that I am looking forward to this, just joeks bruv)

I was listening to some Black Metal (Coven, or Evil Ways Instead of Love by Cultes des Ghoules ) while opening the CNN link, not realizing it would have Wolf talking right away - creepy indeed!

Going to (trade?/currency?) war with China, just so that Trump Org can get a new hotel licensee.

Trump wants to expand business empire to Taiwan, creating another potential conflict of interest

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139?cmpid=sf

through the looking glass

On the bright side, this may mean no Secretary Palin.

which one's the heel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2eKdQ1gqI

euphenism yo. new word for lie.

Somehow didn't realize until now that Trump actually tweets back at people in his threads, both supporters and detractors.

The Taiwan phone call seems overblown in the context of the US selling close to $2bn of weapons to Taipei over the last two years alone, though it is symbolic . The bigger issue will be Trump's aggressive stance on the valuation of the Yuan and whether additional tariffs will be brought in to try to force them to change it. It's easy to say when you want to boost the prospects for US manufacturing but less easy to do when China holds such a large proportion of US debt.