Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html

wow ok reading that was completely nauseating

barf

I hope Mook is getting laid.

I wouldn't be upset if really bad things happened to Kellyanne Conway

yeah 4 years of dealing w/ his scumbag opportunist crew and family is almost as dreadful as 4 years of dealing with the man himself

“This is the problem with the media. You guys took everything that Donald Trump said so literally,” Lewandowski said. “The American people didn’t. They understood it. They understood that sometimes — when you have a conversation with people, whether it’s around the dinner table or at a bar — you’re going to say things, and sometimes you don’t have all the facts to back it up.”

yes yes now imagine all those people at the bar are your boss and are making decisions that will impact you and your family's livelihood

^^ most wtf part of that wtf story xp

nah I get what he means -- Trump is blustery and a lot of his supporters get that he's blustery. They enjoy it. It's pro-wrestling.

yeah I get it too, like he didn't *really* implore Russia to hack Hillary Clinton, even if he *literally* did

what I don't get is why people thought this was acceptable from a future President, one of the few people on the planet whose decisions and words actually do matter

nothing really matters to nihilists

Very koan-esque 'eats shoots & leaves' sentence there, Shakey.

i was talking to a friend yesterday and said "i can't believe we elected a reality tv personality to be president" and he said "really? i do. it makes total sense." none of this stuff is surprising. and yes bernie would've won because politics is always about character & language

Kinda begs the 'would you kill baby Hitler?' question wrt Mark Burnett.

trump would also pull shit like say something nuts ("obama founded isis"), media reports it, then deny it ("I was just kidding!") then repeat the same fucking nonsense again and say no, he meant it literally ("no I literally meant obama founded isis")

the whole "OMG postmodern president" thing is a little bit ahistorical. President of the United States has been a television role for a long time now, not to mention that we had Reagan over 30 years ago.

1940s Warner Bros vs Wrestlemania

So that Newsweek writer whose name I forget, keeps harping on the primary votes where
Clinton won 16.8 million votes to 13.2 million for Sanders, to assert that it is not so clear that Bernie would have done better than Clinton in the general election. He seems to be overlooking various factors for that.

there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn

1940s Warner Bros vs Wrestlemania

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, December 2, 2016 3:20 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I mean if anything is truly "postmodern" it's that we have multiple generations of people now completely engulfed by television and movies to the point that our competing ideas of "normal" are just based on different eras/types of movies and tv.

Foghorn Leghorn and Yosemite Sam fit in both.

nobody even remembers senator claghorn anymore

i say, i say, son

(i know who Fred Allen was)

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

I still think is the best election overview, if I haven't posted it.

xp it was Warren, according to someone I know who worked w/her on the TARP bailout

i think it's probably OK that Elizabeth Warren remains in the Senate for the time being. she might make a fine candidate at some point but having strong dem voices in the legislature is important

if warren would have run, she likely would have won the nomination and would now be president

she didn't not run 'so that clinton could get her turn', she didn't run because *that was definitely not apparent at the time*

hey all I'm saying is that someone who worked on her staff told me that Warren was specifically told not to run, whether by HRC or DNC I dunno, not verified, just hearsay

'told' is probably the wrong verb here - she doesn't have a boss. I am sure lots of high level democrats individually advised her against running because it seemed at the time like it would be a lost cause.

yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy

there's no way of knowing what kind of national-campaign politician EW would have been. P4reene made this point in the spring.

winning elections are not a slamdunk just bcz you're smart and coherent

morbz otm here

who the fuck knows what wouldve happened

I'm a big Warren fan but after Dukakis and Kerry (and Romney), a Massachusetts politician did not seem like a slam dunk winner at all.

she might make a fine candidate at some point

she is going to be 71 at the time of the next circus.

can we get Elizabeth II to run

warren's from oklahoma. she might have been adopted by the state and is a MA senator, but she's nowhere comparable to being a native like kerry or dukakis. she grew up in the realest of 'real america'.

Trump wd've yelled "Pocahontas" for 6 months and perhaps won

not sure if anyone posted this P4reene devil's-advocate piece that shoots down the Dem laments

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-to-talk-to-your-shithead-liberal-nephew-over-the-ho-1789319216

WI judge rejects stoppage of recount

I saw reports of people working the recount griping that this was taking place 'during the holidays' yet the recount has to be done and the vote certified by 12/13

So why is Trump, Inc., trying to stop the recounts? Gotta admit, not a good look to claim the election is rigged, win anyway, re-insist it's rigged and that there was fraud, and then sue to stop recounts.

Trump does and says what he wants without any regard to consistency, logic or common sense. Get used to it, I guess.

Trump doesn't care about nagl.

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

― akm, Friday, December 2, 2016 3:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those are the 2 i had in mind

so, Exxon for Sec of State?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-anderson/trump-may-tap-overpaid-oi_b_13375562.html

Raymond retired from ExxonMobil at the end of 2005, and his near $70 million in compensation for the year seemed, at the time, a more than ample reward for his career of service to company shareholders. Company directors disagreed. This past April, news reports revealed that Raymond walked off into the retirement sunset with a going-away pay package that sets a staggeringly new golden parachute standard.

This retirement package — a grab-bag of stock options, restricted stock awards from previous years, retirement-independent salary, and bonuses, plus a $1 million consulting contract, security services, a car and driver, access to the company corporate jet, and $210,800 in country club fees — would add up to nearly $400 million.

“He is a porker of the first order,” executive pay expert Graef Crystal told Bloomberg after the news of Raymond’s good fortune broke. “Those CEOs out there who are doing better at the trough must be thrilled he’s flying fighter cover for them.”

If he had to liquidate his stock options like Hank Paulson did he wont take a loss. Exxon's stock in 2005 was around 50. Today its trading at $87

"yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy"

well yeah, she's actually a democrat and Sanders was/is not.