Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

so you do not believe he "really really liked" Obama then

even tho he's leaving him a great Perpetual War machine

I don't believe anything he says

OTM. Trump's words have value only to the extent that they reveal his pathology.

Billy Bush tape is the only time he's ever sounded genuine to me

i thought to the degree that Obama told him at the WH meeting something like "i will try to keep you from shitting the bed the day you get here," he was grateful.

I'll never forget about a week ago I was watching the nightly news—I won't say which one because I don't want to give them credit because I don't like them much. I'll be honest, I don't like them, not even a little bit. But they were doing a story on Carrier and I say, “Wow, that's something, I want to see that.” And they had a gentleman worker, great guy, handsome guy, he was on, and it was like he didn't even know they were leaving. He said something to the effect, “No, we're not leaving because Donald Trump promised us that we're not leaving.” And I never thought I made that promise; not with Carrier—I made it for everybody else. I didn't make it really for Carrier, and I said, “What's he saying?”

He was such a believer, he was such a great guy. He said, “I've been with Donald Trump from the beginning and he made the statement that Carrier's not going anywhere, they're not leaving.” And I'm saying to myself, man. And then they played my statement, and I said, “Carrier will never leave.” But that was a euphemism. I was talking about Carrier like all other companies from here on in because they made the decision a year and a half ago. But he believed that that was—and I could understand it; I actually said [it]—when they played that I said I did make it but I didn't mean it quite that way. So now because of him, whoever that guy was, is he in the room, by any chance? That's your son? Stand up, you did a good job. … Well, your son is great.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyoj7U4WIAEuF2s.png:large

I...don't know what to do with that. Except hope that there's a clip of Trump promising to commit suicide which one of his supporters will remind him of in a CNN interview.

I hope he dies of a euphemism.

that's a really good graph.

i wish there were versions for the 2012/08/04/00 elections, just for comparison

the articles about the failed gop candidates screaming at jeff zucker for cnn's garbage ass coverage at the first day of the harvard election post mortem conference are kinda awesome

That graph is an accurate representation of my endorphin levels since Nov. 8.

i don't get the news coverage 'issue'. We all know the freakshow gets the attention in postliterate America. The election threads here all spring and summer were 95% about Trump.

I felt zero feelings for CNN when I heard about them getting yelled at by Trump in a room. Such a worthless network.

seriously fuck everyone who ends up on this site, you idiots knew this "master persuader" was constantly lying and bullshitting about literally everything, anyone who feels "betrayed" by Trump has zero critical thinking skills whatsoever

― frogbs

clinton decisively lost the "amoral idiot" vote. now, in one sense it is depressing, though slightly obvious, to realize that the majority of "undecided" voters are in fact amoral idiots. on the other hand, this makes recovery, in an electoral sense, reasonably straightforward. quit nominating profoundly uncharismatic candidates for president, quit pretending that you can possibly engage these voters on things like "the issues" and "the economy", realize that the people on your side of the fence will vote for your candidate _no matter what_, and the democratic party should theoretically be able to reliably put their candidate in the white house.

Millenials, you're supposedly less nihilist and faith addled than past generations. We're depending on you.

But can they find the perfect charismatic candidate...

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook also acknowledged that her operation had made a number of mistakes and miscalculations, while being buffeted by what he repeatedly described as a “head wind” of being an establishment candidate in a season where voters were eager for change.

He noted, for example, that younger voters, perhaps assuming that Clinton was going to win, migrated to third-party candidates in the final days of the race.

Where the campaign needed to win upward of 60 percent of young voters, it was able to garner something “in the high 50s at the end of the day,” Mook said. “That’s why we lost.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_election750p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.abdd02344e61

https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/804743163663552513

Part of me thinks that Trump actually doesn't remember McMullin's name, or never learned it.

Anyway, I'm not sure if McMullin has done anything other than tweet criticism since the election, but if he's the most prominent conservative opposition voice, we are in trouble.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html

wow ok reading that was completely nauseating

barf

I hope Mook is getting laid.

I wouldn't be upset if really bad things happened to Kellyanne Conway

yeah 4 years of dealing w/ his scumbag opportunist crew and family is almost as dreadful as 4 years of dealing with the man himself

“This is the problem with the media. You guys took everything that Donald Trump said so literally,” Lewandowski said. “The American people didn’t. They understood it. They understood that sometimes — when you have a conversation with people, whether it’s around the dinner table or at a bar — you’re going to say things, and sometimes you don’t have all the facts to back it up.”

yes yes now imagine all those people at the bar are your boss and are making decisions that will impact you and your family's livelihood

^^ most wtf part of that wtf story xp

nah I get what he means -- Trump is blustery and a lot of his supporters get that he's blustery. They enjoy it. It's pro-wrestling.

yeah I get it too, like he didn't *really* implore Russia to hack Hillary Clinton, even if he *literally* did

what I don't get is why people thought this was acceptable from a future President, one of the few people on the planet whose decisions and words actually do matter

nothing really matters to nihilists

Very koan-esque 'eats shoots & leaves' sentence there, Shakey.

i was talking to a friend yesterday and said "i can't believe we elected a reality tv personality to be president" and he said "really? i do. it makes total sense." none of this stuff is surprising. and yes bernie would've won because politics is always about character & language

Kinda begs the 'would you kill baby Hitler?' question wrt Mark Burnett.

trump would also pull shit like say something nuts ("obama founded isis"), media reports it, then deny it ("I was just kidding!") then repeat the same fucking nonsense again and say no, he meant it literally ("no I literally meant obama founded isis")

the whole "OMG postmodern president" thing is a little bit ahistorical. President of the United States has been a television role for a long time now, not to mention that we had Reagan over 30 years ago.

1940s Warner Bros vs Wrestlemania

So that Newsweek writer whose name I forget, keeps harping on the primary votes where
Clinton won 16.8 million votes to 13.2 million for Sanders, to assert that it is not so clear that Bernie would have done better than Clinton in the general election. He seems to be overlooking various factors for that.

there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn

1940s Warner Bros vs Wrestlemania

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, December 2, 2016 3:20 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I mean if anything is truly "postmodern" it's that we have multiple generations of people now completely engulfed by television and movies to the point that our competing ideas of "normal" are just based on different eras/types of movies and tv.

Foghorn Leghorn and Yosemite Sam fit in both.

nobody even remembers senator claghorn anymore

i say, i say, son

(i know who Fred Allen was)

"there were also other good candidates that got 0 votes because they were told not to run so that clinton could get her turn"

such as? seriously, I'm curious what other contenders the Dems even had this time out. I can't think of any aside from Warren and Biden.

I still think is the best election overview, if I haven't posted it.

xp it was Warren, according to someone I know who worked w/her on the TARP bailout

i think it's probably OK that Elizabeth Warren remains in the Senate for the time being. she might make a fine candidate at some point but having strong dem voices in the legislature is important

if warren would have run, she likely would have won the nomination and would now be president

she didn't not run 'so that clinton could get her turn', she didn't run because *that was definitely not apparent at the time*

hey all I'm saying is that someone who worked on her staff told me that Warren was specifically told not to run, whether by HRC or DNC I dunno, not verified, just hearsay

'told' is probably the wrong verb here - she doesn't have a boss. I am sure lots of high level democrats individually advised her against running because it seemed at the time like it would be a lost cause.

yeah "asked" is prob better - friend also pointed out that she's not as much of a rogue element as Sanders, and heeded the requests out of courtesy