Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

I take some small comfort in that site, I hope there are a lot of those people and they stay mad/disenchanted.

Not all of those are from Trump voters. See, for example, Carl Reiner's tweet.

I feel so betrayed that this guy is continuing to be the same person he's publicly shown himself to be for his entire adult life. I thought for sure giving more power to a power-hungry narcissist would humble him, where did we go wrong.

In my more pessimistic moments, I see the rising tide of populism as the collective unconsciousness acknowledging that humankind has pretty much run its course and needs to do what it can to hasten its own end.

she was a deeply flawed candidate

So Republicans largely unite for their deeply flawed candidate, but Dems(broadly defined) do not

Honestly it seems like democrats did unite behind their flawed candidate. Vote totals are increasingly suggesting that the "low turnout" story was exaggerated based on early results. Third party showing was not that impressive. And Trump's margin in the states that won him the election was TINY.

republicans were just motivated after 8 years of democratic WH to come out and vote for their guy - that's why it's so hard to win 3 terms in a row

I have to say, when I predicted that Trump would continue to hold rallies after the election, the context I had in mind was a little more laughable and easy to dismiss.

xp not so sure about that Mordy. Don't think you'd see the same electoral map with a Rubio or Cruz, regardless of who would have won.

Trump brought out a lot of non-regular voters and probably turned off some regular voting republicans.

so Trump is sitting at ~1.7mn more votes than Romney 2012 according to Milo Z, and Clinton how many less than Obama-- 5 million?

x-post-- is there data that supports that Man Alive... I keep reading that regular voting Republicans all came home or stayed there and voted for him (turned off or not)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/01/donald_trump_using_scotch_tape_on_his_tie_is_not_a_metaphor_or_is_it.html

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/01/donald_trump_using_scotch_tape_on_his_tie_is_not_a_metaphor_or_is_it/627017792-president-elect-donald-trump-arrives-on-december-1-2016.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg

lol

Have done that before, on more than one occasion. I mean fuck wearing neckties imo, but if you do, you will have to do that at some point.

they make these things called tie clips/bars.

I think local elections are going to become more and more important, especially given the GOP creep at governor level. Even here, one of the bluest of the blue states and the only state it seems to successfully replace a sitting GOP senator with a dem, we somehow still have an asshole GOP governor who is fucking with everyone. But of course, if you think turnout is terrible or disappointing on a national level, things look ever worse locally.

Third party showing was not that impressive--man alive

Stein's votes (no matter how few) in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania exceed the margins that Trump won by in those states.

He wouldn't have to do that if he'd stop wearing his tie so that it hangs all the way down to his balls.

they make these things called tie clips/bars.

^^^

scotch tape is just some cheap slipshod shit

Trump tie tapegate = perfect liberal bait. Don't take the bait.

assuming that all of those Stein votes would have gone to HRC seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of 3rd party voter psychology.

Stein's votes (no matter how few) in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania exceed the margins that Trump won by in those states.

― curmudgeon, Friday, December 2, 2016 11:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Double-check the math on Pennsylvania?

latest data I saw showed T winning by only 46 thou there in PA, with Stein getting 49 thousand votes. Early counts showed him with a much larger margin

Its hard to know which voting total data is accurate, as they are still counting votes

yes, but did the Stein votes outnumber those from pale Hillary voter-slugs grown from stem cells in basement of Solyndra offices?

still thinking about that Gawker article about Trump's hair and how he basically moved the clinic maintaining it right next door to him at Trump Tower

somehow I suspect THAT is the true reason he seems so reluctant to live in the White House full time? I mean that's the dumbest possible explanation but wasting tens of millions of taxpayer dollars so he can maintain his clownish haircut is totally a Trump move

come on now, the White House is a dump

Trump probably doesn't want to live where black people lived, honestly

so you do not believe he "really really liked" Obama then

even tho he's leaving him a great Perpetual War machine

I don't believe anything he says

OTM. Trump's words have value only to the extent that they reveal his pathology.

Billy Bush tape is the only time he's ever sounded genuine to me

i thought to the degree that Obama told him at the WH meeting something like "i will try to keep you from shitting the bed the day you get here," he was grateful.

I'll never forget about a week ago I was watching the nightly news—I won't say which one because I don't want to give them credit because I don't like them much. I'll be honest, I don't like them, not even a little bit. But they were doing a story on Carrier and I say, “Wow, that's something, I want to see that.” And they had a gentleman worker, great guy, handsome guy, he was on, and it was like he didn't even know they were leaving. He said something to the effect, “No, we're not leaving because Donald Trump promised us that we're not leaving.” And I never thought I made that promise; not with Carrier—I made it for everybody else. I didn't make it really for Carrier, and I said, “What's he saying?”

He was such a believer, he was such a great guy. He said, “I've been with Donald Trump from the beginning and he made the statement that Carrier's not going anywhere, they're not leaving.” And I'm saying to myself, man. And then they played my statement, and I said, “Carrier will never leave.” But that was a euphemism. I was talking about Carrier like all other companies from here on in because they made the decision a year and a half ago. But he believed that that was—and I could understand it; I actually said [it]—when they played that I said I did make it but I didn't mean it quite that way. So now because of him, whoever that guy was, is he in the room, by any chance? That's your son? Stand up, you did a good job. … Well, your son is great.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyoj7U4WIAEuF2s.png:large

I...don't know what to do with that. Except hope that there's a clip of Trump promising to commit suicide which one of his supporters will remind him of in a CNN interview.

I hope he dies of a euphemism.

that's a really good graph.

i wish there were versions for the 2012/08/04/00 elections, just for comparison

the articles about the failed gop candidates screaming at jeff zucker for cnn's garbage ass coverage at the first day of the harvard election post mortem conference are kinda awesome

That graph is an accurate representation of my endorphin levels since Nov. 8.

i don't get the news coverage 'issue'. We all know the freakshow gets the attention in postliterate America. The election threads here all spring and summer were 95% about Trump.

I felt zero feelings for CNN when I heard about them getting yelled at by Trump in a room. Such a worthless network.

seriously fuck everyone who ends up on this site, you idiots knew this "master persuader" was constantly lying and bullshitting about literally everything, anyone who feels "betrayed" by Trump has zero critical thinking skills whatsoever

― frogbs

clinton decisively lost the "amoral idiot" vote. now, in one sense it is depressing, though slightly obvious, to realize that the majority of "undecided" voters are in fact amoral idiots. on the other hand, this makes recovery, in an electoral sense, reasonably straightforward. quit nominating profoundly uncharismatic candidates for president, quit pretending that you can possibly engage these voters on things like "the issues" and "the economy", realize that the people on your side of the fence will vote for your candidate _no matter what_, and the democratic party should theoretically be able to reliably put their candidate in the white house.

Millenials, you're supposedly less nihilist and faith addled than past generations. We're depending on you.

But can they find the perfect charismatic candidate...

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook also acknowledged that her operation had made a number of mistakes and miscalculations, while being buffeted by what he repeatedly described as a “head wind” of being an establishment candidate in a season where voters were eager for change.

He noted, for example, that younger voters, perhaps assuming that Clinton was going to win, migrated to third-party candidates in the final days of the race.

Where the campaign needed to win upward of 60 percent of young voters, it was able to garner something “in the high 50s at the end of the day,” Mook said. “That’s why we lost.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_election750p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.abdd02344e61

https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/804743163663552513

Part of me thinks that Trump actually doesn't remember McMullin's name, or never learned it.

Anyway, I'm not sure if McMullin has done anything other than tweet criticism since the election, but if he's the most prominent conservative opposition voice, we are in trouble.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html

wow ok reading that was completely nauseating

barf

I hope Mook is getting laid.

I wouldn't be upset if really bad things happened to Kellyanne Conway