Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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i ended up listening to an 83 show due to a lauded sugaree. not half bad honestly! i'll have to dive into more 80s

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

yeah man some china cats are good entrypoints actually. don't really have a favorite, but I know that when I was first getting into live dead, this was a tune that routinely made me go "whoa they're really goin' in here"

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

they sweetened up the vocals on europe 72 so that's a good entry although the jams are better on others. i feel often it's the first one to make you go 'whoa' that remains the 'standard' to you

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

was listening to a pauline oliveros interview today from 1985 and she talks about going to see the Dead the night before, how sick their sound system was. can't believe they didn't invite her onstage to jam on accordion for Space.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

the Europe 72 "He's Gone" is fucking aces imo

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

Listening to Rare Cuts and Oddities 1966: fast tight, Thee Sir Pigpen Quintet mostly, with Garcia singing looser than usual on very tight fast "Promised Land" full-group-throated vox on "Good Lovin", stompin' Highway 61/Blonde On outtake-type punky "Cream Puff War", with VU/TVesque guitar climax--ready for CBGB!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ztvlU0mBow

(now Dupree pitching woo slowly etc.)

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link

"Put your arms around me like a circle 'round the sun..."

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

Got the ripple already

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

Dammit Garcia is already a past master ov all styles

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link

And he hasn't even gotten weird yet

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

i feel like playing in the band from veneta would be a good intro

Damn, I'd forgotten how good that is - thanks for the reminder

Brakhage, Friday, 2 December 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

(The fact that said piece is from a UC Santa Cruz site reminds me that a visit to the library is fun if you get the chance -- like all such archives, the actual GD collection is functionally packed away in the building for research use, but they rotate the main exhibition area.)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm fairly certain that my oldest existing online contribution is on David Dodd's The Annotated Grateful Dead page (and it looks like it still exists!)

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 2 December 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

haha, that's great. Jesse Jarnow's HEADS from earlier this year is a great read for many reasons, but one of them is that you learn how the internet was essentially created to talk about Dead setlists.

tylerw, Friday, 2 December 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

Maybe the internet would be a more chill place if Hunter had founded the EFF instead of John Perry Barlow.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 2 December 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

If you can't see this, it's San Francisco 1976--the Orpheum Theatre Broadcast On Three CDs. Think I've heard some of it--- is the whole thing worth getting?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81AtX4mDZRL._SL1425_.jpg

dow, Thursday, 5 January 2017 01:55 (seven years ago) link

don't know that set, but 76 is a super interesting year - they toured more than they had in 75 (hardly any), but not as much as they would the following year. The syracuse show from 76 is really something else. that's about two months after these. if they're doing cold rain & snow and cassidy and tennessee jed, probably a good find

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:21 (seven years ago) link

I have this set - good show, tho Dick's Picks 33 remains my go to 76 set.

It's taken from a radio broadcast, and fidelity is about on a par w/ a mediocre sounding Dick's Pick. I've seen a number of these GD radio shows for sale in UK rec shops - this one looks like a choice set, too (Dark Star>Drums>Other One!):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Harding-Theater-1971-Grateful-Dead/dp/B01A9U6F90

Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 5 January 2017 09:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Adding a concert for the 50th Anniversary Edition of the studo s/t debut, as I think somebody mentioned upthread---the Big Pitch is here, video and all:
http://view.em-dead.net/?qs=9b141882d7989403564a1fb1f79ab664ac66378e68a1f4292da7839536e6673e411ba739bf88020a16dffd9647cc8c7a5784d2d47f2f75e0accc4bded2105b0b

dow, Saturday, 21 January 2017 01:48 (seven years ago) link

They totally cut the bonus tracks from the single disc reissue, it looks like? Weird. Those were cool bonus tracks.

szyslakial moescreancy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 09:39 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

The Cornell set got added to Dave's Picks. This, with mucho Pigpen, is up next
http://www.dead.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/product-main/daves-picks-22-prod-shot.jpeg?1492192469

Feelin' fine with the Felt Forum! Dave's Picks Volume 22 presents the last stop on a collector's choice run in the Grateful Dead's home-away-from-home, New York City. 12/7/71 yields a highly pleasurable Pigpen-filled show and what was surely a top-notch Tuesday for all who attended. Talk about vibe-ing with the crowd! At their prime in terms of lineup and performance, the Dead churned out a batch of songs that would soon become well-worn Europe '72 favorites ("Jack Straw," "Brown Eyed Women") and also served up solid versions of freshly-minted classics ("Sugar Mag," "Friend," "Casey Jones"). That winning combination of Pigpen AND Keith? Nothing but peak "signature showstoppers" including what could potentially be the finest "Smokestack Lightning" of all time. The complete show runs a wee bit short (for a Grateful Dead show, that is) so we've rounded out the release with much of the second set from the previous night, December 6, 1971. With exceptional takes on the likes of "Wharf Rat" and "Uncle John's Band" and a massive "The Other One," we're pretty sure you won't mind.
Limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies, Dave's Picks Volume 22: Felt Forum, New York, NY - 12/7/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and features illustrations by our 2017 Artist in Residence Dave Van Patten (stay tuned to learn more about the illustrator in an upcoming All In The Family piece).
Audio, more info: http://www.dead.net/store/special-edition-shops/almanac/daves-picks-volume-22?cmpid=dn/2017April14/AnnouncingDaves-main-image-1&eml=2017April14/3950520/6131962&etsubid=33554028

dow, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

That winning combination of Pigpen AND Keith? Hadn't realized they played any of the same shows.

dow, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

think keith joined in fall 71, and pigpen was around til summer of 72. this is a good show!

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

finally picked up hundred year hall after first hearing it 20 years ago, what a great set

marcos, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I think that and Bickershaw are my fave Europe 72 shows ...

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

The Pigpen / Keith overlap is definitely worth hearing

The Cornell set got added to Dave's Picks? Is there any confirmation on that? Because there's also this, out May 5th

Wimmels, Friday, 14 April 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

the Cornell thing isn't a Dave's, just a regular old live release.

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

That's what I thought!

I just bought this: www.amazon.com/Cornell-77-Magnificence-Grateful-Concert/dp/150170432X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492213558&sr=8-1&keywords=cornell+77

Wimmels, Friday, 14 April 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link

I recently realized that my favorite Dead jams are from versions of Dark Star in which Keith is playing Fender Rhodes. To find every single one of these I listened to every Dark Star from the relevant time frame--basically 73-74 (turns out the group acquired the Rhodes in May of 73). The fruits of my OCD are below w/brief notes.

6/10/73
6/24/73 (can't hear Keith til almost 12 mins)
6/30/73
8/1/73 (my favorite version ever. pure kaleidoscopic sunshine from start to finish, plus searing slide from Jerry)
9/11/73 (probably my second fav. moodier. they almost sound like can on this one)
10/19/73 (Dick's Picks 19)
10/25/73 (Rhodes briefly in beginning, restarts 10 mins into post-Mind Left Body jam)
10/30/73 (post MLB Jam, also gets synthy)
11/11/73 (back and forth btwn Rhodes and piano throughout. epic and famous version)
12/6/73 (INCREDIBLE. arguably the spaciest ever. kreutzmann bends the fabric of time)

5/14/74 (Dave's Picks 9)
6/23/74 (no vocals, excerpt on So Many Roads box set)
7/25/74
9/10/74 (DP 7)
10/18/74 (Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack. Ned Lagin joins on second(!) Rhodes)

It should go without saying that every one of these is excellent, especially if you dig fusion Dead. And I find exploring adjacent Other Ones, Playin in the Bands, and Bird Songs to be just as rewarding.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link

9/10/74 from Dick's Picks 7, that is.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link

very cool! I always had a hard time connecting with dark stars beyond the classic 68-69 versions - e.g. live dead, two from the vault, august 68, which are some of my favorite dead music ever - so I will check those out. sometimes the later versions just seem so nebulous that I have hard time knowing what to look for. nice to have an "in" and who doesn't love fender rhodes??

marcos, Saturday, 15 April 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

Reminds me---yeah, Greyfolded is still here---might or might not turn out to be a bit of a buzzkill; I've never listened to the whole thing---but here 'tis for whoever wants it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl0-f1Vt6aE

dow, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, Greyfolded is one of my favorite things in the world. After my recent 73/74 "Dark Star" odyssey I revisited Greyfolded and, studying the chart in the liner notes, sadly realized my beloved 8/1/73 version wasn't used. Can't recommend it highly enough for maximum uplift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Spoiler Alert...Dr. Rhino unboxes the individually-numbered, limited-edition May 1977: Get Shown The Light Boxed Set. (there's also a non-ltd. ed, duh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkS-R87kmkw&feature=youtu.be

HAT'S INSIDE (the non-limited All Music Edition):
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

More info, audio:
http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-get-shown-light-all-music-edition?cmpid=dn/2017April19/CornellCiceron_1977BoxedSet-LearnMore-main-more-2&eml=2017April19/3955503/6131962&etsubid=33554028

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

Well dang--- oh well, the box-strip video's on that linked page too.

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Those four shows are peak Dead, obviously. Been successfully avoiding being gouged by the Dead this year (Dave's Picks subscription was my one allowance, and that was a xmas gift to myself) but this one is really tempting. Bastards

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

Other shows on their previous May '77 box http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-box-digital

dow, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

haha, that set does look pretty tempting, but i don't think i can justify the cost ...

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

Brakhage, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here: https://soundcloud.com/hunters-trix/bird-song-6-22-73-p-n-e

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link


Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

― Brakhage, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:02 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're very welcome! I'm happy to help.


there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here: https://soundcloud.com/hunters-trix/bird-song-6-22-73-p-n-e

― tylerw, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh HELL yeah, I love that version. That whole show is fantastic, especially the He's Gone-> Truckin'-> Nobody's Fault But Mine-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Sugar Magnolia in the second set.

J. Sam, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

going to see the GD movie screening tonight, heard mixed things, but eh, never seen it, why not

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

I haven't seen that in close to 25 years now but I still use the line "I'm just trying to get my space together before I go to the show" (as uttered by some super fried person in that film) from time to time when I'm trying to, you know, get my space together.

joygoat, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

saw the movie when I was like 13 y.o. at the red vic in s.f. circa 1980 and got super emo about the beautifulness of it all

lol been there xp

excited

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

really gettin anxious for my cornell box btw

the movie rules, dunno what mixed things you've heard, every deadhead I know loves it!

make sure to get there early for the animation sequence

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link

it was really fun. tinged with more menace than i thought (hells angels, dirtbag/obnxious hippies). i can see why people said 'the scene' got pretty ugly

global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

current Dead listening - this great collection of 1975 rehearsal jams: http://saveyourface.posthaven.com/blues-for-allah-companion

tylerw, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

i wrote a couple entries for this thing! it's good, though maybe nothing new to true heads: http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/10078-the-grateful-dead-a-guide-to-their-essential-live-songs/

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

hashtag pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link


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