Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

Well, yeah.

Drumpf is a lifelong teetotaller; Romney is a practicing Mormon.

I'm as critical of Bernie Sanders as anyone, but holy fuck is he otm right here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.03c09c218ebf

Trump has endangered the jobs of workers who were previously safe in the United States. Why? Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. Even corporations that weren’t thinking of offshoring jobs will most probably be re-evaluating their stance this morning. And who would pay for the high cost for tax cuts that go to the richest businessmen in America? The working class of America.

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I said I would work with Trump if he was serious about the promises he made to members of the working class. But after running a campaign pledging to be tough on corporate America, Trump has hypocritically decided to do the exact opposite. He wants to treat corporate irresponsibility with kid gloves. The problem with our rigged economy is not that our policies have been too tough on corporations; it’s that we haven’t been tough enough.

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If United Technologies or any other company wants to keep outsourcing decent-paying American jobs, those companies must pay an outsourcing tax equal to the amount of money it expects to save by moving factories to Mexico or other low-wage countries. They should not receive federal contracts or other forms of corporate welfare. They must pay back all of the tax breaks and other corporate welfare they have received from the federal government. And they must not be allowed to reward their executives with stock options, bonuses or golden parachutes for outsourcing jobs to low-wage countries. I will soon be introducing the Outsourcing Prevention Act, which will address exactly that.

That's the way to be a Dem economic populist, I suppose. For all the unfortunate talk he has done lately - and I still dislike a lot of what he said about identity politics, many more places than we have talked/yelled about - he walks the walk, and that's far more important.

I'm not for the record rageous about this - I'm happy to admit that being teetotal in Ireland put a considerable chip on my shoulder, though the offense appears to be Alfred's.

It's true you did equivocate about telling him to go fuck himself

in the eighties this was called a "spritzer."

It was also called "gross."

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, December 1, 2016 7:29 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spritzer / on ice in new york city / isn't it a pity / you never had anything to mix with that

xp, that is true, yes.

man, we just had the big Kohler strike here where the Kohlers were sorta but not really seriously considering outsourcing a ton of factory jobs. if only they'd waited a year.

Our grad worker union election is less than a week away and the two or possibly three anti-union student organizers that exist on campus have recently taken to telling people on the fence to vote no, on the premise that there could be another, more pleasing union on the docket at some point in the next few years. To my knowledge they do not seem to have an answer to ''er, you do know that our even being permitted to have this election is due to a decision by the NLRB, which will soon be controlled by Donald Trump, right?'' But then they have not really had answers to a lot of things for ages now so I'm not really surprised.

https://twitter.com/RonWyden/status/804086396113797121

I guess the big question is whether or not the media is going to continue to let Trump have the first word instead of doing their due diligence, since as we all suspected the Carrier deal is straight garbage

the good news is that the continued booming financial success of newspapers, and the attendant swelling of the ranks of dedicated, capable investigative reporters at newsdesks across the usa, means that trump will have his feet held to the fire over every trangression, no matter how minor

Just a reminder: if you want democrats in office, support unions. Don't fall for anti-teachers-union/pro-charter-school bullshit. Norquist agrees:

https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/803680084292997120

i see what you did there, gazzara

https://twitter.com/JonathanMerritt/status/804310057424928768

jesus fucking christ i want off this planet

"THE MEDIA SAID IT"

"google it"

even Fox News is calling the Carrier deal BS all the way 'round

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.html

In persuading Carrier to keep hundreds of jobs in Indiana, President-elect Donald Trump is claiming victory on behalf of factory workers whose positions were bound for Mexico. But the scant details that have emerged so far raise doubts about the extent of the victory.

By enabling Carrier's Indianapolis plant to stay open, the deal spares about 800 union workers whose jobs were going to be outsourced to Mexico, according to federal officials who were briefed by the heating and air conditioning company. This suggests that hundreds will still lose their jobs at the factory, where roughly 1,400 workers were slated to be laid off.

Also, neither Trump nor Carrier has yet to say what the workers might have to give up or precisely what threats or incentives were used to get the manufacturer to change its mind.

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Carrier said in a statement that more than 1,000 jobs were saved, though that figure includes headquarters and engineering staff that were likely to stay in Indiana.

@iaivanova
The guy who'll be running Treasury foreclosed on a 90-yo woman's home over a 27-cent error

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-treasury-foreclosed-homes-mnuchin-232038

well at least Trump didn't get payed to make speeches at this guy's banks

well, trump said he'd run the country like a business - looks like he's committed to delivering on that promise!

While consumer advocates fight OneWest in the trenches, some inside the Beltway see a glimmer of hope in Mnuchin, an expert in mortgage bonds and structured finance. They say he has the technical know-how to fix mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a job Congress and the Obama administration have avoided.

i.e. the fix is in

https://twitter.com/JonathanMerritt/status/804310057424928768

― k3vin k.

this is my mom's book club, minus the person there who tries to explain that they believe in an an unsubstantiated lie

sorry if this has been mentioned already but lost in the chaos of the last few days is that trump apparently offered fucking jerry falwell jr the secretary of education position

http://religionnews.com/2016/11/28/why-jerry-falwell-jr-says-he-turned-down-trumps-cabinet-position/

No mentions of Elaine Chao being tapped for Transportation?

@MarkHalperin
Why is it Elaine Chao's spouse is mentioned in many news stories abt her, but she is almost never mentioned in stories abt her spouse?

@dick_nixon
It is almost as though the press knows something about their private life.

hehehe

(much as i don't like Open Secret McConnell images it conjures up)

I find it hard to believe that Trump actually extended him an offer, I figured discussions with him were more of a signal to the evangelicals than a serious consideration.

xp the much more obvious answer is that women, even famous and powerful ones, are more often defined by their relationships to the men in their lives than vice versa. (cf. Greenspan and Mitchell)

shadow president pence

and also that she's a beard

xp

Both of these things can be true.

I'm worried about most of his picks so far, should I be concerned about Chao? Like should I be telling my senators to oppose her? I know she was secretary of labor under bush and previously deputy secretary of transportation. I know she's from some huge shipping family. She probably sucks as much as any republican, trying to figure out whether she sucks in some special way beyond that.

The mine disaster.

has anyone made the 'the invisible hand of the market has tiny fingers' joke yet bc I did

YES

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/12/01/thursday-morning-open-thread-peotus-trump-fraud-in-chief/

Our system isn't one.

Update: Since someone on Twitter asked, the other four people to get under 50 percent in each contest were John McCain (2008), Michael Dukakis (1988), Walter Mondale (1984) and George McGovern (1972).

"Looks like the Washington Post may have decided the nation needs a Paper of Opposition, since the NYTimes is determined to control the Kneepads Brigade."

oh ffs

balloon juice is a great name for anything though

some peoples shoulders are v prone to chipping huh

The Shoulderchips Brigade

josh marshall has been writing a lot about the possibility of medicare phaseout, this post was interesting and highlights some of the difficulties the GOP will encounter in trying to phase out both medicare and ACA: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-are-gops-now-asking-dems-for-helping-killing-obamacare-and-medicare

i have trouble understanding their motivations for wanting to kill medicare and social security, even at great political cost. clearly a subset of republicans want to do it. but why? is it just pure ideology - they oppose the idea of a federal govt, SS/medicare are successful and popular federal programs and contribute to a perception that the federal government can provide basic essential services, therefore they have to go?

they want to kill poor people

no point in sugar coating things imo

Esp. black ones (xp)

Alan Grayson tom

otm

eh it's just that they want more business for the private sector. making peoples lives worse is incidental but not a dealbreaker

That's the economic motivation; the rest is psychological. I've heard it said too many times from conservative relatives that it's your fault if you don't find a job w/insurance.