Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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Japanese internment camps, COINTELPRO, previous Muslim registry - there's precedents for all that stuff. the discourse normalizing extreme and ridiculous "solutions" is bad, no doubt, but it's not unprecedented.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

Xpost photo was referred to upthread as Lynchian, and it certainly is, and then I get back from lunch and open up my newsfeed to this horrifying pic of Giuliani, which looks like Robert Blake in Lost Highway.

http://s259.photobucket.com/user/yodelagogo/media/giuliani.png.html
https://media2.giphy.com/media/2zOEcqG4EuvF6/200_s.gif

Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

Having a president and his cronies wilfully spread confusion and paranoia via hundreds of thousands of viral "fake news" articles, however, is a new ripple in the history of American authoritarianism: it shows his naked disregard for the principles of constitutional governance.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

that is a new one yeah

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure Nixon would've done it if he could have

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

You don't need to whitewash American history to recognize that Trump's rise is a remarkably fucked up developmeng that threatens to undermine everything worth preserving in our society.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Nixon was a nefarious dirtbag. He at least felt the need to try to hide it though. Trump just makes up his own script and scorns any sort of accountability, Big Brother style

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

that's all true. I just don't feel compelled to spend a lot of time worrying about what he's tweeting or whatever. I don't want to be complicit in ceding power to the medium or his use of it. The sooner a skepticism about shit people see on twitter/facebook/etc. is adopted as a cultural norm the better imo. So I'll treat it as what it is: noise designed to distract.

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/RjNN4uu.jpg

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

mitt with the "i picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue" face

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

mitt's all like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

I think Trump is doing something under the table to Mitt, the kind of thing only stars can get away with

Evan, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

That lighting makes it look like they're eating little stacks of gold coins.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

wow, incisive tweet

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Get someone who can do both

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

I guess legislation that has a reasonable chance of passage and ending on the president's desk for signature scares me more than our moron president sharing an opinion on Twitter.

probably would happen with any ol' Republican president though

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

i know we're already past it but that fucking NYT waving the white flag economics article is the worst and most depressing thing I've seen today and I saw a pigeon get run over in the street

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

typical mammalian bias

mint challop (Will M.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

"I think what he's done so far shows two things. Number one: He has picked people that know how the system works and are willing to make the commitment to him and his policies to make sure the trains run on time and the train stays on the track, and I think that's very important, particularly for someone who ran as an outsider," Chambliss said.

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

Making sure the trains run on time, hmmmmm.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

O_O

ian, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

People who are completely ignorant about history, or people who are way too knowledgeable about particular aspects of history?

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

lol unreal

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

wow, incisive tweet

― k3vin k., Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:55 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How bout this one?

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/804038449300959232

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

I totally misread 'felicitated' as 'fellated.' I need to step away from the internet.

Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Mike Cernovich posted a similar tweet and then deleted it. It has of course been screenshotted and RT'd.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

fellated Navidad
prospero año y felicidad

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

don't know why I got curious and hopped over to this dummy's blog again but my god the delusion here is so palpable

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/153865618451/the-idea-you-are-least-likely-to-believe

When Trump was running for election, facts and reasons and policy details didn’t matter to the outcome. He knew that. I knew that. Every trained persuader knew it. But the general public did not, and that is the realization that is beginning to dawn on the world.

this is just so stupid - Trump DID have "facts" and "reasons" and "policy details" but that facts were wrong, the reasons were dumb, and the policy details were impossible or completely vague, and yet this is a good thing? fuck off.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

wow, that press release.

that is unbelievable.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

Everything is believable now.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

The irony would be if Trump did manage to make America great again strictly through empty flattery.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

Nobody tell Trump that Pakistan is like 98% Muslim.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link

I wanna see the look on his face.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Wait, what does Trump have against Muslims? They're terrific.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Reminds me so much of this which is my favorite Trump-related thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5kfC_VCXeQ

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

i think it's a mistake to think that he gaf about muslims outside how he can use them to get support - i don't think he cares about anything really if being nice to muslims made his bank account larger he'd do a 180.

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

I hate the Times as much as you guys, but they were an all but official arm of Hillary's campaign. So your preferred candidate benefited from their corruption before she lost, right?

I'd be interested to know how many of the thread regulars supported Bernie during the primary. From a distance it seems like most here supported her in the primary. Is that correct?

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

No

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

clinton+email site:nytimes.com

About 6,700,000 results (0.85 seconds)

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

no ilx was pretty evenly split and if the NYT was an arm of the Hillary campaign why did her bogus email story get front page headlines every day?

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

NYT def not an "arm" of HRC's campaign gtfo w that. WaPo went way harder against Trump.

Xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

lol Iago that is so mindboggingly wrong, unless you spelt "WaPo" wrong in which case, yeah I guess

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

From a distance it seems like most here supported her in the primary. Is that correct?

What, in terms of active, regular posters? I would say this is decidedly not correct

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

Iago, you've clearly been mainlining some Trumpist news sources throughout this election. Facts are generally pretty easy to discern when you exercise a little skepticism wrt the things that loud, crazy people are telling you.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, ILX alum Mr Read was on the cspan today, talking about fake news and taking calls.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?418867-5/washington-journal-max-read-internet-fake-news-democracy

I'd like to thank Cspan's auto-transcriber for the new display name.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link


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