Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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Some people's idea of "fair" (or neutral, or unbiased, or whatever) means you have to spend exactly half your time being nice to Party A and mean to Party B, and the other half being nice to Party B and mean to Party A.

Because if the populace is roughly divided in half, then surely the truth is as well. I guess.

This is the "on the other hand, Mr. Hitler contends..." phenomenon.

It is, and has always been, a stupid way of evaluating media fairness.

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link

Dude has definitely inspired a strain of crazy, drunk and stupid to act like it is ok to publicly freak out in his name. You could probably do a running thread of Trumpers gone Wild. It seems like there is someone daily in the news freaking out in restaurants, airplanes, stores on a daily basis with people capturing it on video.

In casual conversation over the past few months around here I have heard so much hearsay and lunacy passed off as fact, I kind of feel like I am living in "They Live". It was so pervasive around here, I sadly wasn't as surprised he won in many ways.

earlnash, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile news happened:

In an unexpected sighting Tuesday, former Vice President Dan Quayle showed up at Trump Tower to offer his "personal congratulations" to President-elect Donald Trump, who has been meeting with potential Cabinet picks this afternoon.

"I was in the area and I stopped by to see the president-elect to offer personal congratulations to him. I talked to him recently on the phone," Quayle told reporters following his meeting. "Things are in good hands. He's moving forward and he's going to make America great again."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

oh man

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

cabinet post in 3...2...1...

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

once a dirtbag, always a dirtbag

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

he looks super old, but its the flip side of looking super young in the late 80s..

I guess the company he works for pumped money into the trump campaign so he gets to kiss the ring.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

The best thing about a trump presidency is that in all likelihood at some point in the not-too-distant future he will not be president. I look forward to him being an ex-president.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

I look forward to him rotting in an unmarked grave

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

and Trump too

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

If he were savvier he'd be more dangerous, but as it is I dislike Dan Quayle more than most surviving politicos: a cynical, hungry little chiseler with a brain smaller than a sauropod's.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

I'm so glad the children of today can experience the 80's just like we did; ghostbusters, dan quayle. maybe crack will make a big comeback

akm, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

hell Reagan never went away. Neither did Duran Duran

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link

Can someone start making quaaludes again? Kind of sad I missed out on those.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Jesus Christ, flag burning? Are we doomed to relive all of the '90s culture wars?

Absolutely, get 2Live Crew on tour again

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

i sort of hope the republicans waste a lot of time on flag burning legislation tbh. something useless and time consuming that won't hold up in court

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link

continuing in my "greatest hits of hyperbolic numbered lists of shit to watch out for"

https://medium.com/@nziehl/coping-with-chaos-in-the-white-house-697fa2ca3ddf#.7rios21qa

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

I love that "flying monkeys" is a technical term from "the literature" on NPD

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link

i sort of hope the republicans waste a lot of time on flag burning legislation tbh. something useless and time consuming that won't hold up in court

― k3vin k.

For a couple more months, anyway.

nickn, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

i sort of hope the republicans waste a lot of time on flag burning legislation tbh. something useless and time consuming that won't hold up in court

― k3vin k., Tuesday, November 29, 2016 7:43 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol otm

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

OT re: sumac or other odd ingredients, try vitacost.com. Things I've had endless headaches finding elsewhere (like the veggie better than boullion) are there for about 2/3 of what they cost on Amz. eg, 12 oz sumac for $4.49.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

My first reaction upon reading of the flag burning tweet: What other gaffe is he trying to hide today?

I'm kinda hoping my usual inputs stop reporting on Trump tweets. Yes, we all know he's a knuckle dragger, but its not news, and its being used to distract from actual perils.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyeU0lVVEAEOQQu.jpg

something Lynchian about this

soref, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

trump looks like he's about to eat mitt

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

only in America would two plutocratic teetotalers eat an exquisite meal.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

how is it possible they can eat a meal without a glass of wine?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link

Mitt's caption: how can I excuse myself before becoming the 3rd course.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

Blink twice if you're there against your will, Mitt.

nickn, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Mitt, I'm sure we can find 19 electors.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/26/laura-ingraham-lifezette/

did u guys talk about this article yet?

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

But a closer look reveals that some of the biggest fake news providers were run by experienced political operators well within the orbit of Donald Trump’s political advisers and consultants.

Laura Ingraham, a close Trump ally currently under consideration to be Trump’s White House press secretary, owns an online publisher called Ingraham Media Group that runs a number of sites, including LifeZette, a news site that frequently posts articles of dubious veracity. One video produced by LifeZette this summer, ominously titled “Clinton Body Count,” promoted a conspiracy theory that the Clinton family had some role in the plane crash death of John F. Kennedy, Jr., as well as the deaths of various friends and Democrats.

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But LifeZette, for all its influence, pales in comparison to the sites run by Floyd Brown, a Republican consultant close to Trump’s inner circle of advisers. Brown gained notoriety nearly three decades ago for his role in helping to produce the “Willie Horton” campaign advertisement, a spot criticized for its use of racial messaging to derail Michael Dukakis’s presidential bid. Brown is also the political mentor of David Bossie, an operative who went to work for Trump’s presidential campaign this year after founding the Citizens United group. In an interview this year, Brown called Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway a “longtime friend.”

Brown now produces a flow of reliably pro-Trump Internet content through a company he co-owns with his family called Liftable Media Inc., which operates a number of high-impact, tabloid-style news outlets that exploded in size over the course of the election. One of Brown’s sites, Western Journalism, is the 81st largest site in the U.S. with 13 million monthly unique monthly visitors, according to rankings maintained by the site Alexa. Another, called Conservative Tribune, is the 50th largest site with over 19 million monthly unique visitors. Liftable Media is run on a day to day basis by Brown’s son, Patrick, who is the president of Liftable Media.

But LifeZette, for all its influence, pales in comparison to the sites run by Floyd Brown, a Republican consultant close to Trump’s inner circle of advisers. Brown gained notoriety nearly three decades ago for his role in helping to produce the “Willie Horton” campaign advertisement, a spot criticized for its use of racial messaging to derail Michael Dukakis’s presidential bid. Brown is also the political mentor of David Bossie, an operative who went to work for Trump’s presidential campaign this year after founding the Citizens United group. In an interview this year, Brown called Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway a “longtime friend.”

Brown now produces a flow of reliably pro-Trump Internet content through a company he co-owns with his family called Liftable Media Inc., which operates a number of high-impact, tabloid-style news outlets that exploded in size over the course of the election. One of Brown’s sites, Western Journalism, is the 81st largest site in the U.S. with 13 million monthly unique monthly visitors, according to rankings maintained by the site Alexa. Another, called Conservative Tribune, is the 50th largest site with over 19 million monthly unique visitors. Liftable Media is run on a day to day basis by Brown’s son, Patrick, who is the president of Liftable Media.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link

this sort of willful spreading of misinformation, fear and confusion is a kind of terrorism.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link

hey all you have to do is google James Conway, Kellyanne's husband, whom I first learned about in the late '90s.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

well Mitt totally caved, because of course he did

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

republicans are cowards, degenerates, and perverts

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link

why are we using the term "fake news" to describe propaganda?

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

Was talking to a friend about this today -- facebook has no need to "play censor" or fact-check every article, it should just ban egregious websites.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

hey all you have to do is google James Conway, Kellyanne's husband, whom I first learned about in the late '90s.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 29, 2016 10:32 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i assume you mean George T. Conway III unless she's a serial conway-marrier

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

friends just call him jimmy or sometimes jim bam bojangles

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 04:50 (seven years ago) link

slimy jim aka george

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

Just had a heated phone conversation with my dad (I made a friends-only Facebook post advocating burning the flag and tweeting it at Trump; he freaked the absolute fuck out and is convinced I will never have a job), tried talking him down by mentioning the importance of not normalizing THE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, who will appoint 2-3 Supreme Court justices, talking about stripping citizenship from people for exercising their most basic First Amendment rights, talked about local actions like delivering recount affidavits to city hall yesterday and volunteering for Planned Parenthood, when some fucking south Philly lowlife came up behind me and starting smacking me in the mouth and chest. Knocked my glasses off, I have a little bit of a fat lip, otherwise fine, but THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY. I don't know if this is because I was talking loudly about PP or if it was just because south Philly is full of shitheads, but I'm not taking any chances.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 04:57 (seven years ago) link

ugh I'm sorry that happened to you.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

Bradd Jaffy ‏@BraddJaffy 1h1 hour ago
Romney on Trump in March vs. Romney on Trump tonight. Breathtaking.

http://i.imgur.com/DA7wNM6.png
http://i.imgur.com/tvXTVMh.png

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link

buncha cucks amirite

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:25 (seven years ago) link

I like the Trumpian "By the way" - nice touch Mitt

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link

i feel like his anti-poetry is going to infect us all in the end

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:51 (seven years ago) link

that ship had sailed man. people can't help imitating him

flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 06:12 (seven years ago) link

it's a compulsion

flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 06:13 (seven years ago) link


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