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and i thought the RS list was generally p good

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

whiney sure cleaned that place up

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

none of those 29 were better tbf Maybe some of them are; I haven't heard 'em all. But: Margo Price's slick knock-off of Loretta Lynn starts okay, gets too predictable, and oops here's the actual Loretta with a good new album of her own. Brandi Clark's album is more fluid than her first, but she's still the self-conscious workshopper, as singer and writer (Alfred cites her tendency to mistake detail for significance). Bon Iver is the opposite, an overachiever, more Bon Iver than ever. Nick Cave is still Nick Cave. The Parquet Courts and Drive-By Truckers albums are both about half-good (minority report). For instance.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

I mean I'm usually just, "Lists, schmists", but in this case, it's almost amazing.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Count RS among publications that don't seem to realize that Parquet Courts have two singers. By my count, 3 of the 4 songs that supposedly show Savage musing with "thoughtful detachment" were actually sung by the other guy.

o. nate, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Dutch OOR magazine (only) misses the I in CROBIB
1. David Bowie - Blackstar
2. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
3. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
4. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
5. Beyoncé - Lemonade
6. PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
7. Car Seat Headrest - Teens Of Denial
8. Frank Ocean - Blonde
9. Chance The Rapper - Coloring Book
10. Eefje de Visser - Nachtlicht

willem, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

I mean I'm usually just, "Lists, schmists", but in this case, it's almost amazing.

― dow

it's almost as if some people aren't familiar with the typical results of lists made by committee

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

almost, but not quite

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

It's almost as if some people think the Tribe Called Quest album is...just okay.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

Eefje de Visser - Nachtlicht

This is really nice!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

i kind of like BBROCLI as an acronym for this year's heavy hitters since it's sort of a shout out to one of the best singles

maura, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

that is an extremely irritating heavy-hitters list in what has been a phenomenal year for music. can we please avoid using it

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

hey don't blame me, i'm voting for maxwell

maura, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

Is there a term for when people try and find increasingly torturous variations on something that worked once on ILM? 'What is this year's GAPDY?' is almost as annoying as 'what is this year's Gaz Coombes?' New Jerseying is the best I can think of.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

Tribe Called Quest omissions are seriously insane. I really don't know what to say.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

Not sure people are really ready for how good it is

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

I guess We got it from Here... was released too late for magazines which publishes year-end lists end of November? Hope too see it in lists made up now and later on.

maarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it came out very late. And it did take a little time to process just how excellent it is. Lots of publications' ballots closed before or just days after the LP came out

Evan R, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

I keep confusing the Tribe and Bon Iver album covers when they come up on my phone.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

I guess We got it from Here... was released too late for magazines which publishes year-end lists end of November?

Also poor timing on Leonard Cohen's death.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

buuut one of them died at a far more untimely age

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

<i>Is there a term for when people try and find increasingly torturous variations on something that worked once on ILM? 'What is this year's GAPDY?' is almost as annoying as 'what is this year's Gaz Coombes?' New Jerseying is the best I can think of.</i>

I'm glad you're annoyed, that was the point. The hivemind voting overwhelmingly for a tiny group of 5-6 albums is annoying. It deserves an annoying acronym.

I think it's mainly the result of lazy participants to these polls not putting much effort into diving deep and really exploring albums they might have missed earlier in the year. If more people did that, the results would be more diverse.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

But the new acronym will not represent the ILM favourites at all. Do you see K for King? D for Dawn? T for Tribe? Another K for Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith? A number 1 for The 1975? Exactly, no.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

I mean, sure it'll be annoying if those albums top all the critic lists not on ILX, but I'm sure they won't.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

The 1975 are more like a number two, tbf.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

But the new acronym will not represent the ILM favourites at all.

You don't actually know this until the polls are run, unless of course we are now at the point where we as an en masse messageboard are using the poll as a mechanism to curate a list that makes us the specialist snowflakes on the Internet rather than aggregating the opinions of the participating voters on which albums/tracks they liked the most over the past year.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

If there's a way to suck fun out of polls im sure some ilxors will be at the forefront of it

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

xp fair, but other albums will be given equal love, that's all. and iggy pop, really now

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

I haven't heard the iggy pop album, but what if it is actually really good?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

i listened to the first few songs. it [imho] isn't.

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

man, that avalanches record from this year really is great

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

EOY polls without some noticeable element of gaming or tactical voting make for some v boring results. Besides, you wouldn't have a nomination process before voting or promotion process during voting if you were aiming for some kind of pure democratic reflection of the board's tastes that could remain discernible from numerous other EOY lists from the publications people here read and in some cases also write for.

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

The nomination process was initially in place to normalize the names people used in their ballots in order to make tabulation of the results easier.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

We will get somewhat idiosyncratic results anyway because we are a smallish, inwardly-focused community that has been hyping each other on specific artists that aren't necessarily popping up on every EOY published. We will see more overlap than we used to because a significant percentage of the people who post here are also driving/contributing to the EOY lists of publications and have disseminating stuff discussed here to a wider audience, some of which may have caught on. If the point of the poll is to be different from everyone else rather than to catch up on what everyone liked, particularly within balkanized subgroups that may not overlap, I think the poll is now pointless.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

the point of the poll is to be different from everyone else rather than to catch up on what everyone liked, particularly within balkanized subgroups that may not overlap, I think the poll is now pointless.

otm

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

completely agree. what i was doing was simply pointing out that 'what everyone liked' on here wouldn't necessarily square exactly with the publication consensus (insofar as there will be one)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

and that i have been otm in this thread

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

I don't think GAPDY had to do with the ILM poll, just all the other polls overwhelmingly placing that group of albums at the top. One of the best things about ILM is I don't think it's predictable. We're not saying an ILM poll is pointless are we?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

http://www.treblezine.com/32855-overlooked-albums-2016/

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:12 (seven years ago) link

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/the-best-progressive-rock-and-metal-of-2016/

There's no metal in that list, don't know why they say that.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:18 (seven years ago) link

The nomination process was initially in place to normalize the names people used in their ballots in order to make tabulation of the results easier.

Still is, but it's turned into a hell of a Spotify playlist to dig into over xmas holidays.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

Here's the top 20 so far, points allocated in the same way as the ILM artist polls:

DAVID BOWIE - ★ | 1045 points | 5 first place votes
NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS - SKELETON TREE | 815 points | 3 first place votes
RADIOHEAD - A MOON SHAPED POOL | 727 points | 1 first place vote
IGGY POP - POST POP DEPRESSION | 536 points | 3 first place votes
BEYONCÉ - LEMONADE | 419 points | 2 first place votes
THEE OH SEES - A WEIRD EXITS | 412 points | 0 first place votes
FRANK OCEAN - BLONDE | 373 points | 1 first place vote
LEONARD COHEN - YOU WANT IT DARKER | 336 points | 1 first place vote
CHRISTINE AND THE QUEENS - CHALEUR HUMAINE | 324 points | 0 first place votes
CAVERN OF ANTI-MATTER - VOID BEATS/INVOCATION TREX | 308 points | 0 first place votes
BON IVER - 22, A MILLION | 296 points | 1 first place vote
ANGEL OLSEN - MY WOMAN | 288 points | 0 first place votes
PJ HARVEY - THE HOPE SIX DEMOLITION PROJECT | 277 points | 0 first place votes
CAR SEAT HEADREST - TEENS OF DENIAL | 269 points | 0 first place votes
SOLANGE - A SEAT AT THE TABLE | 244 points | 0 first place votes
MARGO PRICE - MIDWEST FARMER'S DAUGHTER | 238 points | 0 first place votes
MICHAEL KIWANUKA - LOVE & HATE | 232 points | 0 first place votes
CHARLES BRADLEY - CHANGES | 219 points | 0 first place votes
ANOHNI - HOPELESSNESS | 217 points | 0 first place votes
CHANCE THE RAPPER - COLORING BOOK | 212 points | 0 first place votes

nate woolls, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link

xp I don't think I finished getting through the noms playlist until March - ended up finding lots of stuff I would've voted for if I'd got to it sooner but with most of it unlikely to trouble the top 100. But being able to hear almost everything definitely enriches the occasion.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

Also poor timing on Leonard Cohen's death.

It doesn't really matter, because everyone knew he was going to die shortly. It isn't actually significantly better than his last couple of records (both great), but the sense of import that hangs over it set it apart in a lot of critics' eyes. It's part of a trio of albums from this year, all from long running artists, that are absolutely saturated in death - the others being Blackstar and Skeleton Tree obviously. And death and gloom definitely hang heavily over 2016 in general.

The Tribe Called Quest album in contrast is completely joyous and overflowing with life and should be right near the top of all these lists.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link

AND it's about one of them dying as well, yet still all the things you say

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

Nice that Cavern of Anti-Matter is getting so much attention

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

I don't think GAPDY had to do with the ILM poll, just all the other polls overwhelmingly placing that group of albums at the top

yes, GAPDY was much bigger than ILM. Wasn't that what prompted P4K dude to crow about how the poll results showed we were really a center-indie nation?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

it is weird how everyone's going wild for iggy. might even have to listen to it

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

As the inventor of GAPDY (huge sigh), it was partially about the critical hive mind but mostly about how it leaned white, post-collegiate and indie in 2009. Since most of this year's biggest critical smashes are R&B records it doesn't make sense to force an acronym. (Not that it ever would)

Also, the only reason Beyoncé isn't dominating everything right now is because all the lists out (besides RS) are by British people.

Also, P4k guy signed up with Beats before they got sold, while we're still making 12 Rods jokes and polling albums with the same group of failsons

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

it is weird how everyone's going wild for iggy. might even have to listen to it

Don't.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link


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