U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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I don't see what reason he would have not to do it, beyond "caution." Because the next several years will be about undoing his legacy, he might as well go out trying to add to his legacy and make them figure/fight it out in court.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

Yes. Xpost

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

The best way to get the Senate to avoid a recess would be to telegraph his intention to make a recess appointment to the SCOTUS. One devoutly hopes he is playing rope-a-dope with McConnell.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

i suppose maybe one reason the normally cautious obama would recess-appoint garland is that a recess appointment wouldn't be permanent:

Here’s how it would work. Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution states, “The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate.” This has been used for Supreme Court vacancies before—William Brennan began his Court tenure with a recess appointment in 1956. Any appointments made in this fashion expire at the end of the next Senate session. So a Garland appointment on January 3 would last until December 2017, the end of the first session of the 115th Congress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138787/obama-can-put-merrick-garland-supreme-court

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Is that long enough for the Wisconsin redistricting case to get there?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

There are few humans on the planet more invested in the dignity of the American System of Government than Barack Obama, it's his brain in a robot body that will be brushing radioactive dust off the Library of Congress in 1000 years. I think the chances of him trying an end-run like this are roughly the same as the earth collapsing to the size of a marble and shooting up Donald Trump's nostril.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

well, there is that to consider

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

tbf he could also not wait for recess and just appoint Garland, with the argument being that the Senate has failed to provide its "advice and consent" - this would of course be immediately challenged in court etc.

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

Garland was a bluff, put in so that after the inevitable Clinton victory the Party would have some verbal ammunition against the newly- humble Republican Party. "We gave you Garland when you controlled the House and you didn't act, now as the minority party you must accept Lani Guinier's nomination and it's your own fault." Oops.

Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

idk what exactly is required to technically keep the senate in session, but i guarantee mitch mcconnell does and will do so

mookieproof, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

A familiar surname:

ABC News has learned that Judge Neil Gorsuch has emerged as the leading contender to fill the Supreme Court vacancy, and his nomination is expected as early as next week, according to sources familiar with the selection process.

Gorsuch, 49, is currently a judge on the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, to which he was nominated by President George W. Bush in 2006 and confirmed by voice vote. He would be the youngest Supreme Court nominee in about 25 years.

Gorsuch clerked for Judge David B. Sentelle on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit and then for Supreme Court Justices Byron White and Anthony Kennedy. He attended Harvard Law, and has a Ph.D. from Oxford, where he was a Marshall Scholar. In legal circles, he’s considered a gifted writer. Like Scalia, he’s also both a textualist and an originalist.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-neil-gorsuch-emerges-leading-contender-supreme-court/story?id=45005581

http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/01/potential-nominee-profile-neil-gorsuch/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

(his mother was Reagan's EPA administrator)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Like Scalia, he’s also both a textualist nitpicker and an originalist a backward thinker.

fixed

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

jesus christ

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

sucks to be this guy as now the ruthless dem minority will do everything they can to block his nomination even if it is blatantly unconstitutional right

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

*confirmation

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

He'll need 8 Dem votes to get his seat, not sure who those would be beyond some of the more obvious suspects

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Ugh, makes me sick to my stomach every time this thread is bumped, that this bullshit the GOP pulled worked. I don't think I can read anything about the supreme court in the next four to eight years.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Gorsuch clerked for Judge David B. Sentelle on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit and then for Supreme Court Justices Byron White and Anthony Kennedy

these credentials used to count as centrist – Byron White!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

i'm getting the feeling Schumer will find him sufficiently "mainstream"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

He'll need 8 Dem votes to get his seat, not sure who those would be beyond some of the more obvious suspects

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:19 PM (nine minutes ago)

GOP can nuke the 60-vote requirement any time they want iirc

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

a reminder that the filibuster still exists for SCOTUS nominees

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

sucks to be this guy as now the ruthless dem minority will do everything they can to block his nomination even if it is blatantly unconstitutional right

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:18 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

judging by how the cabinet nominee votes have been going there will be wonderful grandstanding then they'll vote for him

marcos, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

GOP controls the senate and the rules. mcdonnell can do with the rule on SCOTUS nominees what reid did a few years ago for most other votes

xp

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link

Ugh, makes me sick to my stomach every time this thread is bumped, that this bullshit the GOP pulled worked. I don't think I can read anything about the supreme court in the next four to eight years.

― Jeff, Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:19 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea it so gross. otoh obama did little to push things last year, in retrospect he was pretty weak on this whole thing i thought

marcos, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link

mcconnell* xp

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Even accepting the reality that GOP intransigence was world-historic during his terms, Barack Obama never thought that federal judiciary his highest priority. I read two days ago that Reagan nominated 60 percent of these judges, most of whom are still alive and screwing us over.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

I honestly don't think McConnell will go the "nuclear option" for SC nominees.

also aren't the rules set at the beginning of each session? It's too late to revise the rules for the current session, no?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link

and honestly if a SC nominee battle does actually end in a radical revision of the filibuster rules I will be ambivalent, the abuse of the filibuster is pretty fucked up.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

The rules are rarely tampered after the session starts, but the Senate can make its own rules however it sees fit, whenever it sees fit, and no one has the standing to stop them.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

"honestly" is not an adverb I'd use in a sentence with "McConnell" in it

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

I want to see Presnit Trump go nuclear on McConnell for not destroying the filibuster so he can get his shiny toy now

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

lol sorry Alfred fair enuff

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

the biggest argument against McConnell and team killing the filibuster is that it will inevitably come back to bite them when Democrats take the majority

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

yeah I think McConnell is aware of the precariousness of their majority w Trump as the leader of the party

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

mm delicious:

Representing Alabama, Mr. Pryor in 2003 filed a supporting brief urging the Supreme Court to uphold a Texas law that made gay sex a crime. The position of the gay men challenging the law, Mr. Pryor wrote, “must logically extend to activities like prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia.”

“The states should not be required to accept, as a matter of constitutional doctrine, that homosexual activity is harmless and does not expose both the individual and the public to deleterious spiritual and physical consequences,” Mr. Pryor wrote in the brief.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

(his mother was Reagan's EPA administrator)

not just any administrator, of course. Anne Gorsuch Burford's tenure was filled with scandals and she was forced to resign. she was the first agency director in U.S. history to be cited for contempt of Congress.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

but you know i bet her son is sooo much better so no big deal

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

omg I totally remember her from my teenage years under Reagan

fuck this

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

let's hope his scandal comes before he is confirmed

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

I was trying to remember where I'd heard "Burford." FUCK THIS

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

executive order 13777: every nomination must come loaded with some ironic detail that renders the choice absurd

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link

O.G. Gorsuch is infamous to me thanks to the week of Doonesbury strips about the EPA staffer out on the window ledge.

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link

Get ready:

The Judicial Crisis Network has said it will spend $10 million boosting Trump’s choice, targeting mostly Senate Democrats up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump carried. “They’re going to have to choose between the interest of their constituents — who clearly wanted Donald Trump to choose the next Supreme Court justice — and Chuck Schumer’s plan to obstruct this vacancy for the next four years,” said Carrie Severino, the group’s chief counsel.

Many involved in the outside efforts are veterans of court battles dating back to the Bush administration. “You feel like a band, kind of like U2,” said Gary Marx, a Republican strategist involved in mobilizing conservative groups on behalf of the nominee. “You’ve done a number of world tours, a whole lot of albums and looking to release another major one.”

so that makes the Trump Court Songs of Innocence then

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

So who's less terrible overall, Hardiman or Gorsuch?

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

*Hardiman

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Seems like Hardiman, just trying to figure out if there's a catch. But my gut says he picks Gorsuch anyway.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link


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