Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

"challenge"

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sure going to enjoy that coffee this week.

I have bought the Guardian today.

How is it, compared to how it was at some point in the past?

well, there's no manchester edition any more...

pinefox if coffee's not your thing then maybe hot chocolate or herbal tea- lot of places have quite a range now

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Amazing

Davictoria Cormitchen at your subservice.

verily, a take hotter than the earth's core

does not fempute

I like buying and reading the print Guardian. It mostly comes across better in print than online. Nowadays it is also like a tiny gesture of financial support.

Tim: that's really the nub of the question, isn't it, in many ways?

I think the answer is: it is in many ways as good as it was - say 10 years ago - but has gradually cut back so that various things it used to include are no longer there.

But this could be a good thing from the old POV of 'there is too much in the paper, I'll never get through it!'

- especially as I try to read the whole paper, or all of it that I can deem worthwhile.

I agree with each and every one of those sentiments!

you can read the print edition as published at https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian fwiw

lol

The Guardian view on celebrity deaths

*scrambles to get to website as quick as possible*

In the end, they give us their deaths quite as much as their works, and that is why they are so passionately mourned.

QED

Deborah Orr is so terrible

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/30/donald-trump-personality-disorders-learn-minds-work

A fair number of people are implacably opposed to seeing any hope for the future after the election of Donald Trump to the presidency of the United States. But there’s one good reason to be hopeful. Many observers saw quite quickly that Trump’s personality was highly disordered. People with yet more dangerous personality disorders have gained power many times in human history – probably far more often than not. This time, however, the phenomenon is being scrutinised on those terms. The opportunity for everyone to learn a lot about this domineering, exploitative, unstable and superficially charismatic personality type has presented itself on a grand scale.

that is a bad premise for a column, but the it somehow gets worse

A New Zealand study reported earlier this month that “high social cost” adults could be predicted from as young as three from a 45-minute survey of their brain. It has long been known that early intervention is important for vulnerable children. But the Dunedin Longitudinal study is a real wake-up call. It signposts how catching early developmental problems and helping children develop their minds more fully is of benefit to all of society, if only we have the will.

ruok deb

maybe put them in some kind of camp or something idk

Clickbait alert

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typo in url...

the number of levels of wrongness and dishonesty and stupidity are pretty impressive tbh

I have bought the Guardian today. I often do!

So far I have only read the soccer pages. They're fine except for an ungrammatical headline about Everton's proposed move to a new stadium.

Also, on a similar theme, Daniel Taylor's THFC report of our victory mainly stresses the fact that it won't be so good once we move to a new stadium.

Come to think of it I really dislike Taylor. I suppose the Guardian isn't as good as it used to be.

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"So it is not that Streep’s words are not true and important – they are – the thing is to understand how they are framed and understood. She is an Oscar winner calling out a reality TV star. She is a citizen calling the president-elect a bully. She is, by virtue of her success, part of an elite and yet Trump – who lives in a gold tower, who is not actually a self-made man – is really the voice of the elite."

Yes?

I dnt think Streep is the first person 2 forcefully criticize Trump.

who is this fucking idiot?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2017/jan/10/why-baftas-frontrunner-ken-loach-i-daniel-blake-may-betray-its-own-cause

sorry, i always fall for their commentisfree/blog/nottheactualnewspaper cheap trolling

I think Loach is a poor film maker and there is an element of fare like Daniel Blake being liberal comfort food. But this cunt is trying to suggest that life way below the poverty line isn't that bad at all, they obv have extensive insider knowledge on this to be so sure of such a shite opinion. But yeah it is just more click-shite, albeit very Mail type views in this case.

David Cox is master of the "ppl think this thing is good. BUT is it in fact *bad*?" take:

Why British Baftas frontrunner I, Daniel Blake may betray its own cause
Ken Loach’s drama leads the field of homegrown contenders at next month’s awards. But does its attack on the way welfare works undermine the principles on which the system depends?

Bigger picture Why 'Slumnag Millionaire' movie Dark Horse is a political object lesson
An unlikely Welsh villagers’ project to train a racehorse pits the values of the left against the doctrines of the right. But though this documentary may look like Pride, its moral is not in lockstep

Bigger picture Gone Girl revamps gender stereotypes – for the worse
Gillian Flynn feels both book and film advance the female cause. Yet Rosamund Pike’s Amy may harm perceptions of women, although not for the reasons you might expect

Film blog Are female action heroes good role models for young women?
From Katniss Everdeen to Lisbeth Salander, today's film heroines kick butt. But are violent on-screen women empowering or oppressive, asks David Cox

I'm reliably informed that Gone Girl is dreadful about women, but that IDB article is such trash I'll assume he's gotten the wrong end of that stick as well

That is a very good set of evidence soref !

well you see, Gone Girl is dreadful about women, "but not for the reasons you might expect"

ok, I'll stop now but:

Is Enough Said in films about the dangers of obesity?

Nicole Holofcener's comedy featuring an oversized romantic hero, played by James Gandolfini, implies that being fat is an external irrelevance. We wouldn't say the same about anorexia

Nice work if you can get it. No 'gorging cold beans from the can' for this talented fellow.

The Gone Girl article seems pretty on-point, which makes this new one all the more baffling

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I couldn't imagine Loach's IDB being anywhere near as moving as Stéphane Brizé's The Measure of a Man, but apart some of his early tv work and Kes I have a serious Loach aversion.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/19/why-i-sent-oxford-university-rejection-letter

"it is an amazing feeling to realise that so many people are enjoying my email"

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2017/jan/31/from-spud-to-slimane-how-trainspotting-helped-invent-the-skinny-jean

And people get paid for that stuff?

is that really that bad? just seems kind of light.

c.7 pages on TRUMP PRESIDENCY in the news pages of the print Guardian yesterday - I read through them all. Good factual reporting, journalistic standards, bits of expert analysis. This is all separate from any CiF pieces.

The Guardian still has good points.

(xp) It's garbage from start to finish.

Wow, Amitav Ghosh writing environmental articles

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/31/bay-bengal-depleted-fish-stocks-pollution-climate-change-migration

Oh yeah, guess he did write that book about climate change. Not sure I'm ready to tackle that one right now.

Downsizing Guardian style today

Housing crisis: the empty nester's guide to downsizing

Jo Somerset and Liz Clarke, Chorlton, Manchester
Six-bedroom house to three-bedroom house (plus a London crashpad)

Three years ago, with all the children in work or at university, the couple finally sold their six-bedroom, four-storey, semi-detached house in Chorlton south Manchester, and moved to a three-bedroom terraced house around the corner. There was some money leftover to put towards a small flat in London, a crashpad for Somerset while she did a postgraduate certificate in history at Birkbeck.

As so often with the guardian, my comment has to be 'is this some kind of fucking joke'?