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lmao Iago the recount will change nothing you massive idiot

Iago, the conspiracy theory my leftists have been circulating is that Stein called for the recount because she knows from Putin that there will for sure be a smoking gun that will demonstrate hacking and between trump voters protesting and hillary voters protesting and the massive discrediting of our electoral system it'll bring down american democracy

One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.

honestly can't even tell if iago is just messing with us now

also, supershit Leon Panetta has a nice chuckle here over our possible Defense Secretary:

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/23/503108883/leon-panetta-weighs-in-on-the-shaping-of-trumps-security-team

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:48 AM (three days ago)

I wish Leon would have told them what he actually thought as opposed to being a professional politician about it. He shares that flaw with Obama. Decent, intelligent people that are corrupted by the system.

professionalism surely which is a virtue in non-revolutionary times

I don't think I got around to finishing his book, but the part where he writes about how Nixon gamed the system re federal laws about school desegregation, and how a lot of his election strategy was based on these backroom deals and promises, was really illuminating. It was one of the things I was thinking about during this election.

Whose book -- Perlstein's?

Leon Panetta's autobiography

One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.

― sarahell, Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have written, then deleted, so many comments on Facebook and Twitter.

Wait so now Iago thinks hillary is actually going to win? I am confused.

http://wondersofdisney.disneyfansites.com/disfriends/aladdin/iago/iago1.gif

Tbf, it all gets really confusing, because every time Marty goes back, the Butterfly Effect kicks in.

https://cbskhitschicago.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/biff.jpg?w=628&h=352&crop=1

i hope jill stein fulfills her destiny and saves the republic

With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong?

Yes. Yes I do. Since there is obviously no number of recounts in any combination of states that can possibly increase Stein's vote share by a factor of four.

i think he means she will get 5% of the profits. idk where those are coming from though.

No he means the 5% for federal funds. God knows what the fuck he's talking about, either crazy or trolling poorly.

The biggest problem with the recount is Hillary's quick concession, completely plays into 'liberal sore loser' narratives no matter how reasonable the recounts might be.

Wait so now Iago thinks hillary is actually going to win? I am confused.

― Οὖτις, Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:37 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, no. Like Trump, Iago has spent this election season showcasing both his idiocy and the extent to which the words he uses are meaningless and in no way reflective of actual, substantive belief. In short: they trolling you. Way more surprised at and disappointed in Iago than in Trump.

Iago's selection of a diehard torture proponent for his attorney general was the last straw

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802628319422320640

i think the explanation for all this is that jill stein is legit a lunatic

Dr. Jill Stein Verified account
‏@DrJillStein

Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!

idk why ppl are still down on my girl jill

not looking more carefully at this data -- knowing what we know not just about what the russians have been doing, but about stuff like the "crosscheck" program -- would be electoral malpractice

What does a recount have to do with either of those things though? Actual voting machines are not connected to the internet, so they are not being hacked by "the russians." And if crosscheck had an impact it was on the voter rolls, i.e. who was registered, so a recount wouldn't capture it.

i thought recounts were more like an audit, where they would catch strange gaps in the data or evidence of tampering

afaict there are a few possibilities in descending order of probability:
a. jill stein is a maniac who has no idea what she's doing
b. jill stein is running a con to earn some dough and publicity
c. jill stein knows that any kind of audit will turn up inconsistencies and questions because of the size of the system and she wants to undermine faith in the electoral system even further.
d. jill stein knows that there is a smoking gun bc putin told her he would leave one bc once that shows up all hell breaks loose and there's a civil war on the streets

^^ can we poll

Dr. Jill Stein Verified account
‏@DrJillStein

Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!

go fuck yourself

(The first sentence is empirically true though)

https://www.reddit.com/r/jillstein/comments/4evd5f/jill_stein_is_sexy/

"Jill Stein is sexy" - 7 results (0.32 seconds)

"Hillary Clinton is sexy" - About 17,000 results (0.24 seconds)

"Donald Trump is sexy" - About 20,800 results (0.25 seconds)

No results found for "Gary Johnson is sexy".

"Mike Pence is sexy" - 1 result (0.26 seconds)

In the sore winners category, my wife's cousin in California just posted this:

So, this just happened...

I was walking through a parking lot to meet up with my husband and son. I was walking about 2 feet from an older gentlemen, because of our close proximity, I turned my head and smiled at him. He looked at me and angrily said "I would much rather be wearing my shirt then yours." Confused, I looked down at what I was wearing... oh yeah, my cozy old fleece with an Obama/Biden logo. Then I looked at what he was wearing. Duck Dynasty.
I ignored his comment, kept my head down and continued walking, quickening my pace. He called after me "you better watch out, someone will try and run over you with that on."

Why do old men suddenly think it's okay to speak so aggressively to women half their age?
#TrumpsAmerica #Ithoughtitwassafeincalifornia

Donald Trump is far and away the least sexy candidate. Those google results reflect a sick, misguided nation and/or fox news.

*fake news

Fucking duck dynasty

1) I really wish the paper would stop every single one of this asshole's tweets. Haven't they learned their lesson? (Answer: no)

2) Wow, the WaPo and NYTimes really stepping up investigations into Trump's conflicts. Where was this reporting months ago? And hey, did this guy really get away with not releasing his tax returns? How did that happen?

3) Even if Trump/Pence is above conflict of interest, legally, what about Trump's kids? Putting aside Trump legal intervention/reprieve, could they be liable for sketchy stuff (not far) down the line, when conflicts start appearing? They are still subject to US law, right? They can be fined/sued, etc.? If a government body fails to take action against actionable crimes, can that organization be sued? How about if they show that Trump intervened on their behalf and prevented a government body from acting? Because I don't see how any/all of this will not happen. It seemed inevitable, even assuming the best of intentions on the part of Trump et al. And he does not have the best of intentions.

Wow, the WaPo and NYTimes really stepping up investigations into Trump's conflicts. Where was this reporting months ago?

This was happening late summer and early fall; it doesn't matter.

The federal government could be sued, the Trumps themselves could be prosecuted by state AGs, the states could go after the federal government, the Trumps could be sued, etc. etc. There is recourse as long as we remain a nation that abides the rule of law. And hey, David Boies fired his client in the Theranos case so his firm is probably looking for stuff to do!

xpost I never saw anything as extensive and specific as the multiple-bylined Times piece that ran yesterday.

i'm not sure there were that many times and wapo subscribers who voted for trump. every day during the election, the times would show up in my driveway filled with articles on how unethical, untrustworthy trump is. the mind reels imaging a voter carefully reading all of that and then casting a vote for him.

on the other hand, re. sexiness discussion from above

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/11/27/opinion/sunday/27sestanovich/27sestanovich-master768.jpg

If there is anything this election has demonstrated to me, it's that plenty of people read accounts of his conflicts and corruption and crimes and still voted for him anyway, saying what the hell, better than the alternative!

yeah, i was really stunned by the extent of the hillaryphobia in the nation. like, she's got her flaws, but trump is nothing but flaws. he is a blight on the face of humanity. the world is a much worse place because he is in it, regardless of whether or not he is president. now that he is, well,

Trump is shaping up to be the least powerful President since before FDR remade the executive branch, which isn't exactly great if it means the country is pretty much governed by the Ryan agenda. Then again Ryan is probably loathed by a third of his caucus.

they'll stop loathing him once he can just ship radical GOP legislation straight to a friendly White House and buy everybody a round.

The extent of Hillary disdain isn't really surprising - the right and center-right were still mad at "Hill and Billary" from 1992 and have never let it go, the left of the Democrats still doesn't like or trust the Clintons politically (cf. what happened with Bill's VP).

hm, seems like maybe it was a bad idea for the DNC to decide like 5 years ago that she would be the nominee come hell or high water

thanks for your insight at this important moment

ha sorry i'll take your lead and post paranoid articles about how we're slipping into autocracy

https://twitter.com/amjoyshow/status/802910629816172544

i do secretly enjoy following sarah kendzior's apocalyptics tbh