Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

xp no idea - although she said we were the first to see it and it'll probably never be seen, I can't imagine they would release it. It was a mood piece tracking people going to vote, expressions of hope and excitement, leading to a statement about doing it together. Major emphasis was on diversity. Entirely predictable in mood / content, but I found it very poignant as you might expect. It was shown at a campaigner / organiser conference in Sydney, Australia and Lowenstein was here to speak in person. It visibly affected her to watch it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html

this is a little light on evidence (the report comes out tomorrow) but is pretty scary

I guess the Chechen-backed Clinton fake news machine just didn't stand a chance.

I thought this was interesting, examining how stupid it would be to build an even bigger US Navy when the CIC doesn't care for the things that having near-total control of 71% of the Earth's surface is supposed to be good for:

http://thediplomat.com/2016/11/a-us-navy-with-350-ships-but-what-for/

But basically if you've had enough of pieces explaining why Trump's positions make no sense and are stupid, you can skip it

Basically at this point this is largely a phoney war - the people we can't get reliable information from about what Donald Trump will do are a)anyone who isn't him and b) anyone who is.

RT stories are really abundant through google searches. I've also seen high profile figures interviewed there, and it generally looks very official. Is that a propaganda outlet?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307521-report-trump-team-wants-romney-to-apologize

lol?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/22/we-dont-need-the-fcc-a-trump-advisers-proposal-to-dissolve-americas-telecom-watchdog/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw5&wpmm=1

good-bye net neutrality

black lols on a black friday: http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/25/news/trump-black-friday-sale/index.html

RT stories are really abundant through google searches. I've also seen high profile figures interviewed there, and it generally looks very official. Is that a propaganda outlet?

― Treeship, Friday, November 25, 2016 8:49 AM (yesterday)

AHAHAHAH

tbf it's probably too sophisticated to be called a "propaganda outlet" and some of its reporting is good, but it is 100% state-run media.

So anyone else feeling like recount is a massive waste of time and resources right now? Anything that doesn't have "2018" in it, other than maybe Foster Campbell's senate run, is not of interest to me.

This kinda throws it into sharp relief:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-identity-politics-trump-election-20161123-story.html

"You can blame us self-absorbed Berkeley liberals for the election results — but not our identity politics"

― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:25 PM (three days ago)

I have no idea where she's getting the things the left weren't saying to the "far left" because for over a month leading up to the election my fb feed was 75% back and forth arguing between people on the left and "far left" saying the things she says they weren't saying. Granted there were plenty of people that just avoided social media because they didn't want to deal with their friends having these arguments. But it's very WTF that this writer is saying that these arguments weren't happening.

So anyone else feeling like recount is a massive waste of time and resources right now? Anything that doesn't have "2018" in it, other than maybe Foster Campbell's senate run, is not of interest to me.

Are you kidding? The Clinton Coup has begun right on time. They've been gaming this since Team Hillary cancelled the fireworks 3 days before election night. With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong? Remember, I told y'all Hillary would lose. The only questions now are, how does Podesta pull it off and will we have a Civil War? Hope you're happy.

xx-post: Virginia state legislature. New Jersey gubernatorial election. Plenty more stuff to do before 2018!

Also, how the fuck did 'gubernatorial' become a word?

lmao Iago the recount will change nothing you massive idiot

Iago, the conspiracy theory my leftists have been circulating is that Stein called for the recount because she knows from Putin that there will for sure be a smoking gun that will demonstrate hacking and between trump voters protesting and hillary voters protesting and the massive discrediting of our electoral system it'll bring down american democracy

One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.

honestly can't even tell if iago is just messing with us now

also, supershit Leon Panetta has a nice chuckle here over our possible Defense Secretary:

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/23/503108883/leon-panetta-weighs-in-on-the-shaping-of-trumps-security-team

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:48 AM (three days ago)

I wish Leon would have told them what he actually thought as opposed to being a professional politician about it. He shares that flaw with Obama. Decent, intelligent people that are corrupted by the system.

professionalism surely which is a virtue in non-revolutionary times

I don't think I got around to finishing his book, but the part where he writes about how Nixon gamed the system re federal laws about school desegregation, and how a lot of his election strategy was based on these backroom deals and promises, was really illuminating. It was one of the things I was thinking about during this election.

Whose book -- Perlstein's?

Leon Panetta's autobiography

One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.

― sarahell, Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have written, then deleted, so many comments on Facebook and Twitter.

Wait so now Iago thinks hillary is actually going to win? I am confused.

http://wondersofdisney.disneyfansites.com/disfriends/aladdin/iago/iago1.gif

Tbf, it all gets really confusing, because every time Marty goes back, the Butterfly Effect kicks in.

https://cbskhitschicago.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/biff.jpg?w=628&h=352&crop=1

i hope jill stein fulfills her destiny and saves the republic

With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong?

Yes. Yes I do. Since there is obviously no number of recounts in any combination of states that can possibly increase Stein's vote share by a factor of four.

i think he means she will get 5% of the profits. idk where those are coming from though.

No he means the 5% for federal funds. God knows what the fuck he's talking about, either crazy or trolling poorly.

The biggest problem with the recount is Hillary's quick concession, completely plays into 'liberal sore loser' narratives no matter how reasonable the recounts might be.

Wait so now Iago thinks hillary is actually going to win? I am confused.

― Οὖτις, Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:37 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, no. Like Trump, Iago has spent this election season showcasing both his idiocy and the extent to which the words he uses are meaningless and in no way reflective of actual, substantive belief. In short: they trolling you. Way more surprised at and disappointed in Iago than in Trump.

Iago's selection of a diehard torture proponent for his attorney general was the last straw

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802628319422320640

i think the explanation for all this is that jill stein is legit a lunatic

Dr. Jill Stein Verified account
‏@DrJillStein

Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!

idk why ppl are still down on my girl jill

not looking more carefully at this data -- knowing what we know not just about what the russians have been doing, but about stuff like the "crosscheck" program -- would be electoral malpractice

What does a recount have to do with either of those things though? Actual voting machines are not connected to the internet, so they are not being hacked by "the russians." And if crosscheck had an impact it was on the voter rolls, i.e. who was registered, so a recount wouldn't capture it.

i thought recounts were more like an audit, where they would catch strange gaps in the data or evidence of tampering

afaict there are a few possibilities in descending order of probability:
a. jill stein is a maniac who has no idea what she's doing
b. jill stein is running a con to earn some dough and publicity
c. jill stein knows that any kind of audit will turn up inconsistencies and questions because of the size of the system and she wants to undermine faith in the electoral system even further.
d. jill stein knows that there is a smoking gun bc putin told her he would leave one bc once that shows up all hell breaks loose and there's a civil war on the streets

^^ can we poll

Dr. Jill Stein Verified account
‏@DrJillStein

Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!

go fuck yourself

(The first sentence is empirically true though)

https://www.reddit.com/r/jillstein/comments/4evd5f/jill_stein_is_sexy/

"Jill Stein is sexy" - 7 results (0.32 seconds)

"Hillary Clinton is sexy" - About 17,000 results (0.24 seconds)

"Donald Trump is sexy" - About 20,800 results (0.25 seconds)

No results found for "Gary Johnson is sexy".

"Mike Pence is sexy" - 1 result (0.26 seconds)

In the sore winners category, my wife's cousin in California just posted this:

So, this just happened...

I was walking through a parking lot to meet up with my husband and son. I was walking about 2 feet from an older gentlemen, because of our close proximity, I turned my head and smiled at him. He looked at me and angrily said "I would much rather be wearing my shirt then yours." Confused, I looked down at what I was wearing... oh yeah, my cozy old fleece with an Obama/Biden logo. Then I looked at what he was wearing. Duck Dynasty.
I ignored his comment, kept my head down and continued walking, quickening my pace. He called after me "you better watch out, someone will try and run over you with that on."

Why do old men suddenly think it's okay to speak so aggressively to women half their age?
#TrumpsAmerica #Ithoughtitwassafeincalifornia