And yet, if they don't, we will have a constitutional crisis.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
Tbh neither scenario presents a constitutional crisis since in both cases the EC would be acting within its constitutional bounds. Getting faithless electors to throw the election to the House (which would be extremely extremely unlikely, tho easier if Stein's recounts ended up flipping a state or two) would maybe put a lot of congresspeople in awkward no-win positions politically, but constitutionally it's all accounted for. Whether disgruntled partisans see it that way is another story, obv.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
Only state elections in 2017 are in Virginia and New Jersey. Can't imagine any R following Christie, but if anyone wants to prepare for midterms, there must be some seats in the Virginia house up for grabs. And D governor is term limited.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
and mayor of Seattle! Our current democrat is pretty weaksauce, hopefully we'll elect a better democrat
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
This seems like a good place to start:
https://www.flippable.org
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
at least we have a president who understands the face is everything guide to the internet ! am i right
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
https://www.flippable.org/
can't hurt
and there's this guyhttp://www.vice.com/read/house-of-cards-beau-willimon-call-to-action
― will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
Also, anyone joined that Sanders thing, Our Revolution? Does it do anything?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
It sates my liberal self-satisfaction!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
Saw a talk by Jenna Lowenstein (HRC campaign Digital Director) today - in addition to screening the intro video the campaign made for HRC's entrance, had she won on the night - spooky and sad alt history - [...]― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:26 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:26 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa, i would love to see this - any chance it'll go public?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
xp no idea - although she said we were the first to see it and it'll probably never be seen, I can't imagine they would release it. It was a mood piece tracking people going to vote, expressions of hope and excitement, leading to a statement about doing it together. Major emphasis was on diversity. Entirely predictable in mood / content, but I found it very poignant as you might expect. It was shown at a campaigner / organiser conference in Sydney, Australia and Lowenstein was here to speak in person. It visibly affected her to watch it as well.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 25 November 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc
― Treeship, Friday, 25 November 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html
this is a little light on evidence (the report comes out tomorrow) but is pretty scary
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 November 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link
I guess the Chechen-backed Clinton fake news machine just didn't stand a chance.
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 25 November 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link
I thought this was interesting, examining how stupid it would be to build an even bigger US Navy when the CIC doesn't care for the things that having near-total control of 71% of the Earth's surface is supposed to be good for:
http://thediplomat.com/2016/11/a-us-navy-with-350-ships-but-what-for/
But basically if you've had enough of pieces explaining why Trump's positions make no sense and are stupid, you can skip it
― El Tomboto, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Basically at this point this is largely a phoney war - the people we can't get reliable information from about what Donald Trump will do are a)anyone who isn't him and b) anyone who is.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
RT stories are really abundant through google searches. I've also seen high profile figures interviewed there, and it generally looks very official. Is that a propaganda outlet?
― Treeship, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307521-report-trump-team-wants-romney-to-apologize
lol?
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/22/we-dont-need-the-fcc-a-trump-advisers-proposal-to-dissolve-americas-telecom-watchdog/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw5&wpmm=1
good-bye net neutrality
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
black lols on a black friday: http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/25/news/trump-black-friday-sale/index.html
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
― Treeship, Friday, November 25, 2016 8:49 AM (yesterday)
AHAHAHAH
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
tbf it's probably too sophisticated to be called a "propaganda outlet" and some of its reporting is good, but it is 100% state-run media.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
So anyone else feeling like recount is a massive waste of time and resources right now? Anything that doesn't have "2018" in it, other than maybe Foster Campbell's senate run, is not of interest to me.
This kinda throws it into sharp relief:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-identity-politics-trump-election-20161123-story.html
"You can blame us self-absorbed Berkeley liberals for the election results — but not our identity politics"
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:25 PM (three days ago)
I have no idea where she's getting the things the left weren't saying to the "far left" because for over a month leading up to the election my fb feed was 75% back and forth arguing between people on the left and "far left" saying the things she says they weren't saying. Granted there were plenty of people that just avoided social media because they didn't want to deal with their friends having these arguments. But it's very WTF that this writer is saying that these arguments weren't happening.
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
Are you kidding? The Clinton Coup has begun right on time. They've been gaming this since Team Hillary cancelled the fireworks 3 days before election night. With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong? Remember, I told y'all Hillary would lose. The only questions now are, how does Podesta pull it off and will we have a Civil War? Hope you're happy.
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
xx-post: Virginia state legislature. New Jersey gubernatorial election. Plenty more stuff to do before 2018!
Also, how the fuck did 'gubernatorial' become a word?
― Frederik B, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
lmao Iago the recount will change nothing you massive idiot
― That's when I fired off my 2 Tweets to Dr. Phil (crüt), Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
Iago, the conspiracy theory my leftists have been circulating is that Stein called for the recount because she knows from Putin that there will for sure be a smoking gun that will demonstrate hacking and between trump voters protesting and hillary voters protesting and the massive discrediting of our electoral system it'll bring down american democracy
― Mordy, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
honestly can't even tell if iago is just messing with us now
― k3vin k., Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
also, supershit Leon Panetta has a nice chuckle here over our possible Defense Secretary:
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/23/503108883/leon-panetta-weighs-in-on-the-shaping-of-trumps-security-team
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:48 AM (three days ago)
I wish Leon would have told them what he actually thought as opposed to being a professional politician about it. He shares that flaw with Obama. Decent, intelligent people that are corrupted by the system.
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
professionalism surely which is a virtue in non-revolutionary times
― Mordy, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link
I don't think I got around to finishing his book, but the part where he writes about how Nixon gamed the system re federal laws about school desegregation, and how a lot of his election strategy was based on these backroom deals and promises, was really illuminating. It was one of the things I was thinking about during this election.
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
Whose book -- Perlstein's?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
Leon Panetta's autobiography
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
One of the major revelations of social media is how unintelligent a lot of people are.― sarahell, Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sarahell, Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I have written, then deleted, so many comments on Facebook and Twitter.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
Wait so now Iago thinks hillary is actually going to win? I am confused.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link
http://wondersofdisney.disneyfansites.com/disfriends/aladdin/iago/iago1.gif
― Treeship, Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
Tbf, it all gets really confusing, because every time Marty goes back, the Butterfly Effect kicks in.
https://cbskhitschicago.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/biff.jpg?w=628&h=352&crop=1
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
i hope jill stein fulfills her destiny and saves the republic
― Treeship, Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link
With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong?
Yes. Yes I do. Since there is obviously no number of recounts in any combination of states that can possibly increase Stein's vote share by a factor of four.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 26 November 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link
i think he means she will get 5% of the profits. idk where those are coming from though.
― Treeship, Sunday, 27 November 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link
No he means the 5% for federal funds. God knows what the fuck he's talking about, either crazy or trolling poorly.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 27 November 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link
The biggest problem with the recount is Hillary's quick concession, completely plays into 'liberal sore loser' narratives no matter how reasonable the recounts might be.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 27 November 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:37 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, no. Like Trump, Iago has spent this election season showcasing both his idiocy and the extent to which the words he uses are meaningless and in no way reflective of actual, substantive belief. In short: they trolling you. Way more surprised at and disappointed in Iago than in Trump.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 27 November 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link
Iago's selection of a diehard torture proponent for his attorney general was the last straw
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802628319422320640
i think the explanation for all this is that jill stein is legit a lunatic
― Mordy, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link
Dr. Jill Stein Verified account@DrJillStein
Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link
idk why ppl are still down on my girl jill
― Treeship, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link
not looking more carefully at this data -- knowing what we know not just about what the russians have been doing, but about stuff like the "crosscheck" program -- would be electoral malpractice
― Treeship, Sunday, 27 November 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link