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who is donating thousands of dollars to jill stein's recount campaign in the middle of the night?

the late great, Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:49 (seven years ago) link

putin

hunangarage, Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:50 (seven years ago) link

VLADIMIR putin 🎶

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure Breitbart will say it was a direct deposit from the Clinton Foundation or something

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

I feel like this is an utterly terrible idea. It's not going to change anything and will probably make Trump look somehow more sane and reasonable to people.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 08:00 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/pwthornton/status/801259401902338048

oh for fuck's sake

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link

actually i agree. tired of being held hostage by a bunch of cousin-fuckers who won't 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps' and move to where the jobs are

will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 09:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm just so DONE with being nice to the crackers and petit-bourgeois basics who make up the current iteration of America's overseer class. My mother - who raised me not to be racist and to call it out whenever I could, but now watches bad cable news every waking hour - voted for (redacted) because she hated Hillary Clinton. She has the most incredible disconnect between her friends who get stopped for DWB, and the people BLM are trying to support. I have white school friends whose oblique FB posts about 'healing' indicate a GOP vote and an unwillingness to face even the most polite criticism from peers for voting for a racist, nationalist menace.

jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

They voted for Trump because he 'says it like it is' but they can't handle any criticism themselves.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link

Saw a talk by Jenna Lowenstein (HRC campaign Digital Director) today - in addition to screening the intro video the campaign made for HRC's entrance, had she won on the night - spooky and sad alt history - in the Q&A she was asked "what would you have done differently?" Her reply - they should have risen to Trump's bait less often, and that he is clearly a master of the troll (not her exact words but the sense thereof), by which he manoeuvres his power.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 24 November 2016 12:26 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLSveRGmpIE

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

So what are the arguments against the audit, again? Even if there isn't any foul play things could hardly get much worse, right? And Stein is kind of perfect for this - she won't lose face if she cries wolf like Clinton would and the environmentalists have a lot to lose in the following years.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

who is donating thousands of dollars to jill stein's recount campaign in the middle of the night?

Can't decide if this is just Jill being Jill or did the Clintons make her an offer she couldn't refuse...anyone with any sense had to realize they wouldn't go quietly into that good night. Remember when everyone jumped down Trump's throat for saying he'd wait and see what he'd do if he lost?

Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving. "First they came for the Native Americans and I didn't speak up", indeed...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link

There's a thing with DC liberals not wanting to be seen as 'unseemly' which prevents many of them from attacking things everybody knows are criminal, dodgy or unfair. Pretty sure it would be considered unseemly for HRC or her campaign chiefs to advocate on behalf of herself in this situation.

jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Liberals have morals, conservatives do not, is basically what it boils down to at this point.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

So how many actual billionaires has this chord appointed so far? Two? Three?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

President-elect Donald Trump has received two classified intelligence briefings since his surprise election victory earlier this month, a frequency that is notably lower — at least so far — than that of his predecessors, current and former U.S. officials said.

A team of intelligence analysts has been prepared to deliver daily briefings on global developments and security threats to Trump in the two weeks since he won. Vice President-elect Mike Pence, by contrast, has set aside time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials said.

Officials involved in the Trump transition team cautioned against assigning any significance to the briefing schedule that the president-elect has set so far, noting that he has been immersed in the work of forming his administration, and has made filling key national security posts his top priority.

But others have interpreted Trump’s limited engagement with his briefing team as an additional sign of indifference from a president-elect who has no meaningful experience on national security issues and was dismissive of U.S. intelligence agencies’ capabilities and findings during the campaign.

A senior U.S. official who receives the same briefing delivered to President Obama each day said that devoting time to such sessions would help Trump get up to speed on world events.

“Trump has a lot of catching up to do,” the official said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-turning-away-intelligence-briefers-since-election-win/2016/11/23/5cc643c4-b1ae-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

his ineptitude plus the buyer's remorse that is likely to show itself in six months is the only silver lining, if it even is that.

mid-terms are going to be tough too, gotta put a lot of effort into getting at least one branch of Congress back.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

xxp:
Needs to be mentioned (again and again), the Voting Rights Act, and in particular the 1982 amendments to it passed by a Democratic congress, were the best thing to happen to the Republican party. A legal mandate to create 50% minority districts gave a lot of minority legislators job security, but wiped out Democratic representation in the 'burbs. Add in the benefits of incumbency, and the general election hasn't been competitive in most of the country's legislative races for the past 26 years.

There's been discussions in the voting rights legal literature of that reducing the mandate (I've seen 30% minority), would expand the effective political power of minorities, but its up to the Federal judiciary, and that means we're screwed.

Surrounded by 62,212,752 fools + 7,143,756 morons (Sanpaku), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Yep. Read Ari Berman's Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

There is no chance the Dems is getting any branch of government back. Not unless they win the Louisiana runoff now. There are eight GOP seats up, and while Nevada should be doable, and perhaps Arizona with a lot of effort, which one out of Mississippi, Nebraska, Tennessee, Texas, Utah or Wyoming is even remotely plausible?

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

The Dems should mount a challenge against Ted Cruz, if only to build up a Democrat base in Texas for the future. There's also a distinct possibility that the longer the people of Texas get to know Ted Cruz, the more repulsed they are of him, like anyone else who has ever spent time with the guy.

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

Would Cecile Richards be interested?

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

x-post: I also imagine Orrin Hatch has to retire this time? If so, Utah should be without an incumbent, and should definitely be ripe for at least a stronger democratic state party building on distaste for Trump. So there's a lot to do, and a shitload of seats to be defended against, but realistically no hope of a senate takeover.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Cecile Richards would be a disaster and discouraging.

If anything, the Castro Twins should be looked at it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

as far as Democrats have no shot in 2018 yada yada yada - there's no telling what might befall the country before then. This is shaping up to be the most corrupt administration in history - two months before inauguration.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

strike the 'it'

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

It will be a great test of our country, that is for sure. Like the commercial that determines whether a suitcase can survive being thrown around by a gorilla.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

Cecile unfortunately would spend the entire campaign being called a racist baby-killer only to have her ass handed to her by the most hated man in DC

will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

jill stein recount up to 3.3 mil.

Mordy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

what if she's doing this bc she knows that there will be evidence of russian vote tampering. even one smoking gun, even if there was no evidence that it changed the results, would throw the entire system into disarray.

Mordy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

milo, yeah, anything can happen, but again, the map is that D has 25 seats and R has 8 up for election in 2018, and D has to get three more, so... And the house... How to get over the gerrymandering? Perhaps state elections is the best way to go, if anyone wanted to do something useful, put a calendar together for the next state elections.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

Most of those Dem seats are pretty safe unless the country has somehow gone full Triumph of the Will, in which case we're all painfully fucked anyway.

It looks bad but it's not as bad 25 to 8.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

It's literally 25 to 8.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

The popular vote total is going to wind up with about 2.5 million more for Clinton.

This is a Constitutional crisis. The electoral college should not vote Trump in.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

And yet, if they don't, we will have a constitutional crisis.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

Tbh neither scenario presents a constitutional crisis since in both cases the EC would be acting within its constitutional bounds. Getting faithless electors to throw the election to the House (which would be extremely extremely unlikely, tho easier if Stein's recounts ended up flipping a state or two) would maybe put a lot of congresspeople in awkward no-win positions politically, but constitutionally it's all accounted for. Whether disgruntled partisans see it that way is another story, obv.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

Only state elections in 2017 are in Virginia and New Jersey. Can't imagine any R following Christie, but if anyone wants to prepare for midterms, there must be some seats in the Virginia house up for grabs. And D governor is term limited.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

and mayor of Seattle! Our current democrat is pretty weaksauce, hopefully we'll elect a better democrat

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

This seems like a good place to start:

https://www.flippable.org

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

at least we have a president who understands the face is everything guide to the internet ! am i right

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

https://www.flippable.org/

can't hurt

and there's this guy
http://www.vice.com/read/house-of-cards-beau-willimon-call-to-action

will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

Also, anyone joined that Sanders thing, Our Revolution? Does it do anything?

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

It sates my liberal self-satisfaction!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

Saw a talk by Jenna Lowenstein (HRC campaign Digital Director) today - in addition to screening the intro video the campaign made for HRC's entrance, had she won on the night - spooky and sad alt history - [...]

― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:26 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whoa, i would love to see this - any chance it'll go public?

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

xp no idea - although she said we were the first to see it and it'll probably never be seen, I can't imagine they would release it. It was a mood piece tracking people going to vote, expressions of hope and excitement, leading to a statement about doing it together. Major emphasis was on diversity. Entirely predictable in mood / content, but I found it very poignant as you might expect. It was shown at a campaigner / organiser conference in Sydney, Australia and Lowenstein was here to speak in person. It visibly affected her to watch it as well.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 25 November 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc

Treeship, Friday, 25 November 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html

this is a little light on evidence (the report comes out tomorrow) but is pretty scary

k3vin k., Friday, 25 November 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link

I guess the Chechen-backed Clinton fake news machine just didn't stand a chance.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 25 November 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link


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