I love all these records, but for some reason just the arrangements on the Mingus, and the tones of the horns throughout, really bring me something extra that for some reason the other just don't. Plus, where I sit, nothing on any of the other records is anywhere as simple, free and joyful as "Better Git It In Your Soul." So I voted for Mingus.
― naturally unfunny, though mechanically sound (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 26 April 2009 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I love three of these albums, but I had to go with Ornette because, as pointed out up thread, "Lonely Woman" always win.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
This is really difficult as I love the shit out of all of these, but I play Giant Steps more than any of the others, so Trane it is.
― one thousand BIG HOOS raging and pounding (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ fuck me, Giant Steps vs. Kind of Blue? It's like bourbon vs. scotch (for a drunk like me, at least).
― SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Tough choice btw Coleman and Davis...I think it has to be Kind of Blue for me.
― WmC, Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel like the Mingus of Ah Um is overly reined-in and orchestrated compared to the raw anarchy of, say, Blues & Roots or the Mingus x 5, so that's out. Ornette is probably my default choice, with Kind of Blue right behind. If I was gonna vote for Giant Steps, I might have to re-listen to it to do so, which is never a bad thing.
― unperson, Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link
What's striking to me is how behind the times that album is compared to the others here, considering how forward thinking Coltrane was going to become. It's just playing the changes taken to the nth degree.
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:50 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Not sure I follow this reasoning. Kind of Blue is also an extension of "playing the changes," just in another direction (minimal instead of maximal approach in terms of how many changes there are). Also Mingus Ah Um can very much be seen as an extension of the Duke Ellington approach.
― eggy mule (Hurting 2)
Well I see Kind of Blue as really mode based.
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Sunday, 26 April 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Whereas I love Giant Steps but Coltrane repeats himself on at least one of the solos.
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Sunday, 26 April 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I feel like the Mingus of Ah Um is overly reined-in and orchestrated compared to the raw anarchy of, say, Blues & Roots
totally agree.
also prefer other ornette stuff.
KoB is just pretty much perfect, and it's one of those albums where i'm drawn in and listening to nearly every note
― mark cl, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
and w/ coltrane i always feel like i started w/ the s/t album and never really checked out much of his work prior to that (w/ his miles work an exception). i should give it a few more listens
― mark cl, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Just realized - these are all on Atlantic or Columbia! Not one is actually a Landmark jazz recording.
― Full Metal Slanket (Oilyrags), Friday, 1 May 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 2 May 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
poor mingus
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 2 May 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
it's ok -- I think I like Mingus better overall than Miles, but I don't think Mingus has an album quite as perfect as Kind of Blue. Mingus, by definition, was a little all over the place.
― tylerw, Saturday, 2 May 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
but in terms of consensus mingus albums, that's got to be one of the most solid (along with what, mingus x 5, blues & roots, and black saint & the sinner lady?).
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Saturday, 2 May 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah Ah Um an amazing album, no doubt! That and Black Saint are probably the most fully-realized albums of his. Though, my favorite music of his is the live stuff with Eric Dolphy.
― tylerw, Saturday, 2 May 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah Um is definitely hurt for me by the fact that about 4/7 of the album was rerecorded later as Mingusx5 in superior versions. Overall Mingus is probably my favorite of this group, ironically enough.
Maybe the poll options should have been "Giants Steps" "So What" "Lonely Woman" and "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" though.
― Subtlest Fart Joke (Oilyrags), Sunday, 3 May 2009 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link