there's no good solution to this mess apart from maybe going back in time and stopping donald trump from existing
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link
or going back in time and grabbing Madison, Hamilton, and Morris by the lapels.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link
She won't do it
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link
sad
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link
!
― Treeship, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link
fwiw 538 crew thinks fraud claims are spurious cf nate's twitter feed
― Mordy, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link
there's already such a void of legitimacy in the govt (for v good reasons) that it would be impossible to reach a conclusion that would not leave a substantial portion of the country feeling cheated
― Mordy, Wednesday, November 23, 2016 12:04 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The electoral college system does this already, also only having two parties
― identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
is it better to have the republic destroyed by constitutional crisis or nazis
― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link
Reichstag firesale
― identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link
Ana Navarro going off on Kayleigh McEnany
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link
Lawmakers in Erie, PA have introduced a bill to ban "conversion therapy." http://www.wkbw.com/news/law-introduced-to-ban-conversion-therapy-in-erie-county
In a demonstration of A+ trolling, check out the acronym:
Erie County Legislator Patrick Burke introduced "Prevention of Emotional Neglect and Childhood Endangerment," which will be debated in December and into the New Year.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link
@mitchellviiWhen Trump looks at an apple, he doesn't just see the apple, he sees the soil and the tree and the farmer and the rain.Trust him.
Trust him.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
Bill Mitchell is the drummer in Gay Dad.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 03:06 (seven years ago) link
The only curiosity he has about that apple is what it might've said about him behind his back.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link
we don't even know who these apples are, in some cases
― Treeship, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link
Trump is Mao now
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link
This is a good start.
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:12 (seven years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link
not gonna happen
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
well yeah
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link
talked about upthread a bit
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link
oh!
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:34 (seven years ago) link
so have all the votes been counted yet or is that something we have to wait till 2017 for
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 09:27 (seven years ago) link
halderman:
https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-election-was-hacked-look-at-the-ballots-c61a6113b0ba#.19ly1ivsg
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
reading this thing make my head hurt
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?smid=tw-share
― akm, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
his tendency to just be an empty vessel repeating random things people said to him is so pronounced there. 4 years of the big lebowski.
― iatee, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link
there was a Dubya advisor on NPR this morning saying there should be no presidential press conferences for the first 6 months; the risk of spontaneity is too great.
there should be no presidential press conferences for the first 6 months; the risk of spontaneity is too great.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
it was speechwriter Mike Gerson, actaully:
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/23/503108932/former-bush-speechwriter-weighs-in-trumps-message-post-election
also, supershit Leon Panetta has a nice chuckle here over our possible Defense Secretary:
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/23/503108883/leon-panetta-weighs-in-on-the-shaping-of-trumps-security-team
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link
lol @ him attempting to appoint Ben Carson to *something* (despite Carson's insistence that he doesn't have the experience) just to have a black guy in his Cabinet
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-waterboarding-change-mind
now thinks waterboarding is "not going to make the kind of a difference that a lot of people are thinking."
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
got to the climate change part of that NYT transcript and almost threw my phone across the room. also fuck everyone in that room for apparently just chuckling and moving on at his vapid handwaving around the alt-right and why they might seem energized by his candidacy.
rrrrrgggggh. fuck everybody because hey, we are all fucked anyway.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
the NY Times leadership needs to save their phoney-baloney jobs
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
harrumph
― “a tub of horses” (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
So much money, so little oversight, we're going to get stuff like this every day, and he's not even president yet:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-adviser-received-salary-from-charity-while-steering-breitbart-news/2016/11/22/75340778-af8a-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html
Donald Trump’s chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon accepted $376,000 in pay over four years for working 30 hours a week at a tiny tax-exempt charity in Tallahassee while also serving as the hands-on executive chairman of Breitbart News Network.During the same four-year period, the charity paid about $1.3 million in salaries to two other journalists who said they put in 40 hours a week there while also working for the politically conservative news outlet, according to publicly available documents filed with the Internal Revenue Service.The salary payments are one part of a close relationship between the nonprofit Government Accountability Institute, a conservative investigative research organization, and for-profit Breitbart News.Under Bannon’s leadership, Breitbart has become the clarion of the alt-right, a term embraced by conservatives estranged from mainstream Republicans and decried by those on the left as racist and xenophobic.The news site has produced a torrent of incendiary articles about race, immigration, liberals and moderate Republicans. It has been one of the most prominent supporters of Trump and a leading critic of Hillary Clinton.“We think of ourselves as virulently anti-establishment, particularly ‘anti-’ the permanent political class,” Bannon told The Washington Post in January. Trump’s selection of Bannon as a senior adviser has drawn widespread criticism from Democrats and others.The ties between the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) and Breitbart call into question the assertions the institute made in filings to the IRS that it is an independent, nonpartisan operation, according to philanthropic specialists and former IRS officials.Bannon launched the institute in 2012, shortly after taking the helm of Breitbart. He sought tax-exempt status from the IRS by describing the institute as an education group to help the United States and other countries maintain a “higher quality of life” through “promotion of economic freedom,” according to IRS filings.
During the same four-year period, the charity paid about $1.3 million in salaries to two other journalists who said they put in 40 hours a week there while also working for the politically conservative news outlet, according to publicly available documents filed with the Internal Revenue Service.
The salary payments are one part of a close relationship between the nonprofit Government Accountability Institute, a conservative investigative research organization, and for-profit Breitbart News.
Under Bannon’s leadership, Breitbart has become the clarion of the alt-right, a term embraced by conservatives estranged from mainstream Republicans and decried by those on the left as racist and xenophobic.
The news site has produced a torrent of incendiary articles about race, immigration, liberals and moderate Republicans. It has been one of the most prominent supporters of Trump and a leading critic of Hillary Clinton.
“We think of ourselves as virulently anti-establishment, particularly ‘anti-’ the permanent political class,” Bannon told The Washington Post in January.
Trump’s selection of Bannon as a senior adviser has drawn widespread criticism from Democrats and others.
The ties between the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) and Breitbart call into question the assertions the institute made in filings to the IRS that it is an independent, nonpartisan operation, according to philanthropic specialists and former IRS officials.
Bannon launched the institute in 2012, shortly after taking the helm of Breitbart. He sought tax-exempt status from the IRS by describing the institute as an education group to help the United States and other countries maintain a “higher quality of life” through “promotion of economic freedom,” according to IRS filings.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
yeah it is seriously insane the amount of corruption and conflicts of interest that apparently are just going to go unchecked
double lol that Hillary lost because people had doubts about her "ethics"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link
her ethics sucked
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
hillary's ethics were just a sop to justify not voting for her - no one who voted for trump really gaf about corruption obv
― Mordy, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
Only someone as corrupt as he is has the skills to navigate Washington's corruption.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link
Only someone as corrupt as he is has the skills to navigate further entrench Washington's corruption.
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
like they're not even fucking trying to hide it at all. it's beyond brazen.
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/aLSUmUy.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link
I really hate to be arguing this position right now, but the flipside is that Clinton supporters were completely dismissive of the same kinds of bad ethical optics wrt the Clintons that they now are angry at Trump about. The legality defense was raised a lot, and I'm not sure there's anything potentially illegal about Bannon receiving a salary from a non-profit while also running a media company. Also many of the issues with Clinton arose out of activity during her tenure as secretary of state and/or when she was known to be preparing a presidential run, not just working in the private sector. Yes the concerns may have been exaggerated, but everyone's insistence on "nothing to see here" was a bit flabbergasting. It felt as though we were all supposed to just trust that the Clintons are good people and have the right intentions, which is exactly how the right now views Trump.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link
I'm curious about what the NYT's strategy is when he next tweets about the terrible failing @nytimes.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link
promise to do better, probably
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
more on pompeo
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/23/mike-pompeo-religious-war/
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
Everyone ready for red scare 2.0?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/article/138897/democrats-biggest-disaster
dang
Look past the GOP takeover of Washington, however, and the outlook for Democrats is even more alarming. In November, the party lost control of state legislatures in Iowa, Minnesota, and Kentucky. The state senate in Connecticut, which had been firmly blue, is now evenly split. Republicans ousted Democratic governors in Missouri, New Hampshire, and Vermont. All told, Democrats surrendered about 30 seats in state legislatures. They now hold majorities in just 31 of the country’s 98 legislative bodies, and only 15 of the nation’s governors are Democrats.The losses in November are part of a sharp and unprecedented decline for the party at the state level. Since Obama took office eight years ago, Democrats have lost over 800 seats in state legislatures. For the first time in history, they do not control a single legislative chamber in the South. Overall, the party is now at its weakest point at the state level since 1920.
The losses in November are part of a sharp and unprecedented decline for the party at the state level. Since Obama took office eight years ago, Democrats have lost over 800 seats in state legislatures. For the first time in history, they do not control a single legislative chamber in the South. Overall, the party is now at its weakest point at the state level since 1920.
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link
unless you count the demons who live in morbs' head as site users, there is literally nobody here who actually believes "we were all supposed to just trust that the Clintons are good people and have the right intentions"
― iatee, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link
he's approximating
happy holidays from my demons to yours!
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link