I'd been thinking throughout the course of the election that Trump was going to go out with the grace of Col. Rhodes at the end of Day of the Dead. It just occurred to me that, even though he won, my assessment still stands.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
trump is gonna ban officials from lobbying for foreign governments his own NSA advisor lobbied for businesses connected to turkey
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-flynn-key-trump-aide-sat-in-on-intel-briefings-while-advising-foreign-clients-004512931.html
Flynn’s relationship with his overseas clients is coming in for new scrutiny amid recent disclosures that two months ago, during the height of the presidential campaign, his consulting firm, the Flynn Intel Group, registered to lobby for a Dutch company owned by a wealthy Turkish businessman close to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey.
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/800877825037312000
hillary on pace to win the popular vote by 2.5 million
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
california should allow itself to be split into 3 states as a noble gesture to help a country in need
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
the BC government's policies have been a disaster for unions, renters, students, and working people, just for the record
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
and there are still many dumb regulations
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
look at the voting totals spreadsheet linked to on that tweet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19Hillary
i hadn't realized what a massive swing Maine had. obama won it in 2012 by a 15.3% margin. in 2016 clinton only carried it by 2.7% - a 12.6% swing toward republicans over 4 years.
there are a few states that had larger 4-year swings toward republicans - iowa at 15.2%, north dakota at 16.1%, west virginia at 15.4% - but Maine is really surprising to me because they've been led by a trump for 4 years, paul lepage. i was under the impression that he was a terrible fucking buffoon and an embarrassment to everyone connected to maine. apparently i was wrong. a lot of maine voters got a taste of lepage since 2011 and decided to vote for the presidential equivalent. fuuuuuuck
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
i didn't realize trump owned a football team in the 80s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Generals
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
Trump's plan is total nonsense but I do like the idea of taking inventory of existing regulations, subsidies, and laws that are over 20 years old and determining which still apply to the modern world.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
there's a good 30 for 30 about the USFL xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWxMCLHXkVc
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
The 2 for 1 thing is banal GOP base crap - really not novel at all, just part of the long, long, big lie that the US is overregulated, that all they do in Washington is think of red tape with which to harry the little guy, etc. etc. The emphasis on quantity is very old in this sense.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
it's not what's *in* the regulation that's important to him, it's how many there are!
i'm etaching bizniss ethics rn and 'so much regulation' is literally the extent of untutored student thinking about this topic, the left's messaging on it is nowhere
― j., Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
of course the vast majority of the regulations that really annoy people don't come from dc anyway
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
re "you'd be in jaiul"
@Morning_JoeSource tells @Morning_Joe @realDonaldTrump won't pursue investigations into @HillaryClinton for private email server use/Clinton Foundation.
@ggreenwald U.S. Presidents have an obvious interest in upholding the precedent that officials from prior administrations are not prosecuted.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I have been telling people nonstop to watch that 30 For 30 episode about the USFL since Trump announced he was running. It's such a perfect encapsulation of his pathologies and his willingness to wreak havoc in the pursuit of a stupid and self-defeating goal simply because his desires take precedence over every single other thing.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
the BC government's policies have been a disaster for unions, renters, students, and working people, just for the record― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 12:06 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkand there are still many dumb regulations― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 12:07 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 12:06 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 12:07 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The Red Tape Reduction Act seems pretty silly to me, for the reasons man alive and Shakey give, and I don't really know why the NDP voted for it, but, yeah, the protections for "public health, public safety, and the Canadian economy" are a huge weasel clause, as well as that no action may be brought against the Crown on grounds pertaining to the act.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
the left's messaging on it is nowhere
I mean it's a complicated subject and there's not a snappy one line 'message' to sell
'regulations are sometimes good, sometimes bad, also really depends on what you even mean by 'regulation'
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
This is one somewhat amusing criticism of possible consequences: http://ipolitics.ca/2016/04/13/conservatives-one-for-one-rule-could-be-hindering-regulatory-cooperation-report/xp
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
isn't greenwalds whole beat involve taking the government to task for classifying the shit out of everything and wrongfully prosecuting people for violating it? shouldn't he want them not to charge HC?
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Idk how many regulations the federal government passes that could not be justified in terms of "public health, public safety, or the Canadian economy".
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
The supreme religion of the U.S. press corps is reverence for power; the more Trump exhibits, the more submissive they will get. “I know I will get over it in a couple of days after Thanksgiving.” We believe you.
Finally, after everything Trump has said — about immigrants, Muslims, women, etc. — this is what upsets these journalists: that he criticized them to their faces using a mean tone. Remnick writes that “Trump whined” in the meeting and showed how “vain” he is. That may be true, but the same is true of his anonymous friends for whose petty grievances he is crusading. There is much oppression in the world and many serious concerns as Trump heads to the Oval Office; how Trump speaks to Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker is not on that list.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/22/media-stars-agree-to-off-the-record-meeting-with-trump-break-agreement-whine-about-mistreatment/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
The divide is economic, and it is massive. According to the Brookings analysis, the less-than-500 counties that Clinton won nationwide combined to generate 64 percent of America's economic activity in 2015. The more-than-2,600 counties that Trump won combined to generate 36 percent of the country's economic activity last year.Clinton, in other words, carried nearly two-thirds of the American economy.
Clinton, in other words, carried nearly two-thirds of the American economy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/22/donald-trump-lost-most-of-the-american-economy-in-this-election/
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
There is much oppression in the world and many serious concerns as Trump heads to the Oval Office; how Trump speaks to Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker is not on that list so that is why I wrote this article about Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
know your serfs
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
and yeah GG was the only one who wrote about it; kudos
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I agree with the main point of the Intercept article but, at the same time, maybe media bigwigs getting shook on a personal level is what it takes for some shit to change.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408I am seriously considering Dr. Ben Carson as the head of HUD. I've gotten to know him well--he's a greatly talented person who loves people!
wtf! either appoint this idiot or don't . fuck your idiotic thought process
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
to up their level of sycophancy, likely xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
media bigwigs do not go on the air. those ppl are sideshow hustlers.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
xp His thought processes are largely reality show-based.
https://www.inman.com/2016/11/21/whos-in-the-running-to-be-trumps-new-hud-secretary/
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:47 (thirteen minutes ago) Permalink
Thinking about these precise facts in different terms might help the Democrats understand why they lost.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
I really wish the people that voted for Trump overwhelmingly voted for him with the economy in mind, rather than Build the Wall, Benghazi, emails, crooked Hillary, Muslims and oh yeah, the economy, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
― iatee, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:31 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The reality is "regulation" is not the top talking point in either direction with the lower end of the electorate economically. It's mostly the kind of thing that *small business owners* care about. Ugh all this red tape have to get all these permits! And sometimes it's true, it can be a real pain in the ass and it isn't always for any real purpose.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:47 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this kind of thing is comforting but misleading
the dense, urban, highly developed counties where most work is done have a) millions of liberal-oriented people living in them, but also b) most of rich owners and managers who aren't.
like, steve bannon is an LA dude. trump is, you may have heard, a new yorker.
― goole, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
old news maybe bc when i woke up he cancelled but Trump is currently giving on record interview w/ NYT and it's being tweeted: http://www.nytimes.com/live/trump-at-the-new-york-times-the-tweets/?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
xp - misleading how? All it is saying is that more people in these counties voted for Clinton, not that they unanimously preferred Clinton. And some of these counties aren't all that dense, they are just large.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
old news maybe bc when i woke up he cancelled but Trump is currently giving on record interview w/ NYT and it's being tweeted: http://www.nytimes.com/live/trump-at-the-new-york-times-the-tweets/?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
― flappy bird, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:18 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Vibe of this very much seems like trying to calm liberals down. Taking that with massive amounts of salt.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Mike Grynbaum ✔ @grynbaumSalmon, beef tenderloin, squash, cupcakes on the menu here at NYT. But no one in the room is bothering to eat.
wow...not even the squash...
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Maybe it's my particular part of the small business spectrum but I have never encountered onerous regulation. The fire department makes me get new extinguishers once a year.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
squash owns
― qop (crüt), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
i deal with a lot of regulations in my company. some of them are annoying but they all mostly make sense. you need a permit if you're going to block traffic with a crane. you need a permit if you're going to freight an oversized haul. you need to keep to EPA regulations if you're going to liquidate freon from a system or handle wet cell batteries. you need to post insurances for your labor teams. you need to post environmental insurances.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
squash is on the menu because they are trying to squash beef
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
Does Trump think human activity is linked to climate change? “I think there is some connectivity. Some, something. It depends on how much."
cool answer
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
Breitbart is just a publication, guys. It's just a publication.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:26 AM (nine minutes ago)
you have to buy new ones? We'd just have to take ours to a place and have them re-tested and re-certified. Generally we only had to get new ones every 5 years or so?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
But Trump's dislike of regulations sure reminds me that he is a real estate developer. The regulations for real estate development in cities are really voluminous.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
Friends who have a cafe in NYC have had trouble with city permitting stuff and somewhat meaningless fines. I mean they're doing fine and it doesn't seem overwhelming, just sort of shitty to deal with.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
On Bannon:"If I thought he was a racist or alt-right or any of the things, the terms we could use, I wouldn't even think about hiring him."
― piscesx, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
xp - they are lucky.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link