black holes tend to be pretty destructive iirc
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
and he's had two (TWO!) whole phone calls with obama in the last fortnight! an amazing relationship, just terrific xp
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
the nonsensical line about "deleting two regulations for every new one" was in there
I keep coming back to this because it is so hilariously nonsensical - it's not what's *in* the regulation that's important to him, it's how many there are! Should just write one giant sweeping regulation for everything and tell him that that all the other regulations have been eliminated. Magic!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
Yeah they're going to start naming all brand new regulations "3b" "35f" etc. as a loophole
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link
On day one, every government employee named Walter will be shown the door. Walter is a terrible name, so so bad.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Like I read regulations all the time in my job and I don't even know what he really means by "a regulation." An entire section of federal code? A subsection?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link
Donald Trump is not a person to whom words mean things
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
he doesn't mean anything he doesn't understand anything
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
regulators mount up
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
yeah it's about as vague and meaningful as his "5 year lobbying ban...unless they sign a piece of paper" plan
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
odds on trump quickly getting fed up with all the hassle of being president and just abdicating?
― conrad, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
I don't think he'd resign, just stop coming to the office
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
our greatest hope
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
maybe Ivanka will be our Edith Wilson
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
more like our Edith Bunker
― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
lol
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
Tried to compose a Trumpian update of 'Those Were the Days', lost my will fifteen seconds in.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
re: eliminating regulations, it's been done before.
http://www.npr.org/2015/05/26/409671996/canada-cuts-down-on-red-tape-could-it-work-in-the-u-s
BERLINER: So the incoming administration in British Columbia said enough is enough. For every new rule that becomes law, two existing ones would have to go. And Laura Jones says it's worked. In British Columbia, regulation has been reduced by 40 percent. She says small business has benefited.JONES: And there's been very little to no outcry about cutting into rules that are important to protect human health, safety and the environment.BERLINER: Eventually, British Columbia dialed it back to one for one, and that became the model for the entire country. For two years, one for one has been a federal policy, part of a broader attack on red tape. To give the effort credibility, the savings from eliminating regulations couldn't just be assumed. They had to be quantified. Tony Clement is a cabinet minister with Canada's ruling Conservative Party.TONY CLEMENT: We're trying to measure and benchmark our success. And in that way, it's a serious exercise, not just a - you know, a jingoistic political exercise.BERLINER: Clement says small businesses are logging less time on paperwork - a reduction of hundreds of thousands of hours so far. Nineteen federal regulations have been eliminated, but the law won't allow cuts to protections for health, safety and the environment. That took any ideological edge off the act. When Canada's House of Commons voted to make the policy an actual law, the bill passed overwhelmingly.
JONES: And there's been very little to no outcry about cutting into rules that are important to protect human health, safety and the environment.
BERLINER: Eventually, British Columbia dialed it back to one for one, and that became the model for the entire country. For two years, one for one has been a federal policy, part of a broader attack on red tape. To give the effort credibility, the savings from eliminating regulations couldn't just be assumed. They had to be quantified. Tony Clement is a cabinet minister with Canada's ruling Conservative Party.
TONY CLEMENT: We're trying to measure and benchmark our success. And in that way, it's a serious exercise, not just a - you know, a jingoistic political exercise.
BERLINER: Clement says small businesses are logging less time on paperwork - a reduction of hundreds of thousands of hours so far. Nineteen federal regulations have been eliminated, but the law won't allow cuts to protections for health, safety and the environment. That took any ideological edge off the act. When Canada's House of Commons voted to make the policy an actual law, the bill passed overwhelmingly.
somehow i doubt that trump's version will NOT include a provision that "the law won't allow cuts to protections for health, safety and the environment."
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
I'd been thinking throughout the course of the election that Trump was going to go out with the grace of Col. Rhodes at the end of Day of the Dead. It just occurred to me that, even though he won, my assessment still stands.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
trump is gonna ban officials from lobbying for foreign governments his own NSA advisor lobbied for businesses connected to turkey
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-flynn-key-trump-aide-sat-in-on-intel-briefings-while-advising-foreign-clients-004512931.html
Flynn’s relationship with his overseas clients is coming in for new scrutiny amid recent disclosures that two months ago, during the height of the presidential campaign, his consulting firm, the Flynn Intel Group, registered to lobby for a Dutch company owned by a wealthy Turkish businessman close to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey.
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/800877825037312000
hillary on pace to win the popular vote by 2.5 million
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
california should allow itself to be split into 3 states as a noble gesture to help a country in need
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
the BC government's policies have been a disaster for unions, renters, students, and working people, just for the record
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
and there are still many dumb regulations
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
look at the voting totals spreadsheet linked to on that tweet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19Hillary
i hadn't realized what a massive swing Maine had. obama won it in 2012 by a 15.3% margin. in 2016 clinton only carried it by 2.7% - a 12.6% swing toward republicans over 4 years.
there are a few states that had larger 4-year swings toward republicans - iowa at 15.2%, north dakota at 16.1%, west virginia at 15.4% - but Maine is really surprising to me because they've been led by a trump for 4 years, paul lepage. i was under the impression that he was a terrible fucking buffoon and an embarrassment to everyone connected to maine. apparently i was wrong. a lot of maine voters got a taste of lepage since 2011 and decided to vote for the presidential equivalent. fuuuuuuck
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
i didn't realize trump owned a football team in the 80s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Generals
― 龜, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
Trump's plan is total nonsense but I do like the idea of taking inventory of existing regulations, subsidies, and laws that are over 20 years old and determining which still apply to the modern world.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
there's a good 30 for 30 about the USFL xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWxMCLHXkVc
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
The 2 for 1 thing is banal GOP base crap - really not novel at all, just part of the long, long, big lie that the US is overregulated, that all they do in Washington is think of red tape with which to harry the little guy, etc. etc. The emphasis on quantity is very old in this sense.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
it's not what's *in* the regulation that's important to him, it's how many there are!
i'm etaching bizniss ethics rn and 'so much regulation' is literally the extent of untutored student thinking about this topic, the left's messaging on it is nowhere
― j., Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
of course the vast majority of the regulations that really annoy people don't come from dc anyway
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
re "you'd be in jaiul"
@Morning_JoeSource tells @Morning_Joe @realDonaldTrump won't pursue investigations into @HillaryClinton for private email server use/Clinton Foundation.
@ggreenwald U.S. Presidents have an obvious interest in upholding the precedent that officials from prior administrations are not prosecuted.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I have been telling people nonstop to watch that 30 For 30 episode about the USFL since Trump announced he was running. It's such a perfect encapsulation of his pathologies and his willingness to wreak havoc in the pursuit of a stupid and self-defeating goal simply because his desires take precedence over every single other thing.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
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The Red Tape Reduction Act seems pretty silly to me, for the reasons man alive and Shakey give, and I don't really know why the NDP voted for it, but, yeah, the protections for "public health, public safety, and the Canadian economy" are a huge weasel clause, as well as that no action may be brought against the Crown on grounds pertaining to the act.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
the left's messaging on it is nowhere
I mean it's a complicated subject and there's not a snappy one line 'message' to sell
'regulations are sometimes good, sometimes bad, also really depends on what you even mean by 'regulation'
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
This is one somewhat amusing criticism of possible consequences: http://ipolitics.ca/2016/04/13/conservatives-one-for-one-rule-could-be-hindering-regulatory-cooperation-report/xp
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
isn't greenwalds whole beat involve taking the government to task for classifying the shit out of everything and wrongfully prosecuting people for violating it? shouldn't he want them not to charge HC?
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Idk how many regulations the federal government passes that could not be justified in terms of "public health, public safety, or the Canadian economy".
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
The supreme religion of the U.S. press corps is reverence for power; the more Trump exhibits, the more submissive they will get. “I know I will get over it in a couple of days after Thanksgiving.” We believe you.
Finally, after everything Trump has said — about immigrants, Muslims, women, etc. — this is what upsets these journalists: that he criticized them to their faces using a mean tone. Remnick writes that “Trump whined” in the meeting and showed how “vain” he is. That may be true, but the same is true of his anonymous friends for whose petty grievances he is crusading. There is much oppression in the world and many serious concerns as Trump heads to the Oval Office; how Trump speaks to Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker is not on that list.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/22/media-stars-agree-to-off-the-record-meeting-with-trump-break-agreement-whine-about-mistreatment/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
The divide is economic, and it is massive. According to the Brookings analysis, the less-than-500 counties that Clinton won nationwide combined to generate 64 percent of America's economic activity in 2015. The more-than-2,600 counties that Trump won combined to generate 36 percent of the country's economic activity last year.Clinton, in other words, carried nearly two-thirds of the American economy.
Clinton, in other words, carried nearly two-thirds of the American economy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/22/donald-trump-lost-most-of-the-american-economy-in-this-election/
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
There is much oppression in the world and many serious concerns as Trump heads to the Oval Office; how Trump speaks to Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker is not on that list so that is why I wrote this article about Chuck Todd and Jeff Zucker.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
know your serfs
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
and yeah GG was the only one who wrote about it; kudos
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I agree with the main point of the Intercept article but, at the same time, maybe media bigwigs getting shook on a personal level is what it takes for some shit to change.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408I am seriously considering Dr. Ben Carson as the head of HUD. I've gotten to know him well--he's a greatly talented person who loves people!
wtf! either appoint this idiot or don't . fuck your idiotic thought process
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
to up their level of sycophancy, likely xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
media bigwigs do not go on the air. those ppl are sideshow hustlers.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
xp His thought processes are largely reality show-based.
https://www.inman.com/2016/11/21/whos-in-the-running-to-be-trumps-new-hud-secretary/
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link