Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

yes, that exactly. He has the face of a locker-stuffer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/media/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it.html

so apparently this actually happened?

yeah, i heard katy tur and some bro from the washington post talk about it on msnbc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVg2EJvvlF8

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/800914868039655425

Republican Congressman from Michigan, speaking out against Trump

Ok, "speaking out" is a bit strong. "Is critical of Trump" probably makes more sense

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/media/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it.html

so apparently this actually happened?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:29 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his awful twitter fans seem absolutely cock-a-hoop about this, all those people who leave aggro comments below online articles can't believe they have a president who can actually say this stuff to journalists faces

i thought that everyone in america knew they were at least supposed to pretend to believe that the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, should be inviolable.

i really need to stop paying attention to this stuff

Oh hey - http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/putin-moves-his-missiles-in-new-threat-to-europe-fbqpr9m9g

(didn't mean a matter of them slavishly following their mate) xp

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, November 21, 2016 3:47 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

okay cool - sorry for jumping on you. just read very oddly to me in that moment.

to Tracer, re: rural black culture in the south - FWIW not that this captures even 10% of what you're trying to get at, but the cartograms linked up thread, or any map that breaks out results by county/district rather than state, still registers profoundly the black belt. depending what counts as 'country' there is good reason to point up as you do that black rural life, in the here and now (and not just before the great migration) exists and is severely underrepresented in areas like "country music"...

finally, let me just say holy shit at "Alexis de Wokeville"

truly let it not be slept on

^ nice turn of phrase

Have we mentioned that the weirdness of 2016 is never-ending, and Green Day popped up on everybody's FB feeds because they worked in a modified _MDC_ lyric of all bands into their network TV appearance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiC9ofpzVZw

weird, i went to see MDC last month and they sang the "no trump" version of that song. really felt pretty cathartic to jump around and sing along to that.

no Casino you're right, there IS black country life but it is so thin on the ground, and so completely unrepresented.

LOL @ Fred running amok itt

FP is a bullshit move and always has been, i don't do it anymore even for dolts/tragedians

https://www.bclm.co.uk

the argument w/in black studies etc is that the truth is the reverse; race is a deeper, more deeply rooted issue w/in western philosophy that pre dates capitalism as currently constituted. The argument wd be that class is "conflict" & can be addressed through regulation and reform, but race is an antagonism, unresolvable w/in the current paradigm

D-40 do you have any recommendations for people/pieces addressing this? I've been reading a lot of colonial & imperial history recently but have not come across anything quite like this

To see how almost a century ago Progressive (and progressive) writers elided race, check out Matthew Josephson's The Politicos.

ogmor, IANAD-40, but he did post this link last year: http://www.incognegro.org/afro_pessimism.html

(and a quick Google provided a longer and deeper one: http://www.rhizomes.net/issue29/sexton.html)

Apparently New York Times refused to see Trump to be yelled at. He cancelled the meeting after he accused them of changing the conditions.

the argument w/in black studies etc is that the truth is the reverse; race is a deeper, more deeply rooted issue w/in western philosophy that pre dates capitalism as currently constituted.

not sure this is right? surely race, and hierarchical ideologies around race, were a foundation stone of capitalism as practiced by the western european nations that colonized the new world and exploited it on the backs of slaves and subjugated peoples? this was the precise moment that capitalism emerged from feudalism. it couldn't have happened without an ideology of race.

benedict anderson to thread

I think you're agreeing there?

ha ok good!

scene

so Trump pretty much admitting he's going to run the presidency for financial gain? cool

http://i.imgur.com/HvT8lGv.jpg

lol this is too much . what a nightmare

Not nice
nasty tone!

"the New York Times just announced complaints about them are at a 15-year high"...what is he talking about here??

but why announce?

.what is he talking about hereever??

The number of complaints coming into the public editor’s office is five times the normal level, and the pace has only just recently tapered off.

My colleague Thomas Feyer, who oversees the letters to the editor, says the influx from readers is one of the largest since Sept. 11.

think this is what he means

Would "failing" not have fit in the second tweet there, or is he slipping?

I vaguely remember W Bush negging the liberal press a lot too. Does this seem orders of magnitude worse or just worse?

I think Trump is a genuine threat to the 1st Amendment, which I don't remember ever thinking about Bush.

i wonder if perhaps there could be a link between trump's constant berating of the nyt on twitter, a medium noted for its ability to quickly and easily co-ordinate witch-hunts, and a spike in complaints to the public editor

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Y'all don't remember how vigorously the American press opposed the run-up to the Iraq War in fall '02?

Neither do I.

I think Trump is a genuine threat to the 1st Amendment, which I don't remember ever thinking about Bush.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:37 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ironically he loves taking advantage of it personally

I like this confidence!!

Donald J. Trump Verified account

‏@realDonaldTrump

Great meetings will take place today at Trump Tower concerning the formation of the people who will run our government for the next 8 years.

6:46 AM - 22 Nov 2016

the argument w/in black studies etc is that the truth is the reverse; race is a deeper, more deeply rooted issue w/in western philosophy that pre dates capitalism as currently constituted. The argument wd be that class is "conflict" & can be addressed through regulation and reform, but race is an antagonism, unresolvable w/in the current paradigm

D-40 do you have any recommendations for people/pieces addressing this? I've been reading a lot of colonial & imperial history recently but have not come across anything quite like this

― ogmor, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:17 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

charles mills the racial contract is a pretty important work wrt this argument i think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Racial_Contract

But there was definitely a lot of stuff about Bush denying access to those he didn't like. I remember people raising a big stink about it at the time. I've also read that Nixon did the same. Just trying to keep some historical perspective here to not completely freak out.

yea i dont think trump is actually going to "rewrite libel laws" to destroy 1st amendment but it is pretty clear that he will strive to fully delegitimize any press that is critical of him (and kind of already has at least in the minds of half the country)

I think Trump is a genuine threat to the 1st Amendment, which I don't remember ever thinking about Bush.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:37 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ironically he loves taking advantage of it personally

― Evan, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:41 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, yes, he is of that contingent that engages in the cognitive dissonance of berating certain "liberal" values that they then whine about not being allowed to enjoy themselves ("Safe spaces are for cucks! But it's unfair that I don't have a safe space to complain about safe spaces!").

Nixon had an enemy's list. He declared open war against the press.

If Donald Trump lives to be 78, I can at least content myself with the knowledge that it wasn't because I didn't pray every day for him to pass away peacefully in his sleep.

I think Trump is a genuine threat to the 1st Amendment, which I don't remember ever thinking about Bush.

well Bush's press secretary said that people should "watch what they say" right after 9/11. It was a bit of a concern for some people.