Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

we already knew the media was completely worthless and yet it's still somehow disconcerting to read that

those pictures esp at the bottom. wolf blitzer.

It is completely beyond me why any self respecting journalist would wiggle his way up to Trump's lair to be shouted down.

This is not happening, right?

y'all don't think it made them bind together

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that we're all probably better served by an adversarial media right now

i mean they thought they were going for access and they got yelled at

i hope so but they seem a lot more like chastened puppies than bold professionals atm

No, I get you now - I misread you as suggesting that it was invented by misogynist trolls.

I'd struggle to criticise the sign though - the murder rate among black trans women, for example is much higher than black cis men, but they don't get to be the backdrop. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Black Lives Matters, and I'm well aware that it has a higher rate of female leadership than any non-gender-focussed organisation - but I don't know that it lives in a gender-free vacuum.

i'm going to be breathing into this paper bag for 4 years, arent I

And you people with the "four years". Make that eight, if not more...

not helping

fuck off with that "if not more"

A moment of clarity: none of these people has reported much less done anything remotely investigative in, what, twenty years?

Wolf Blitzer's job is to gesture at screens

for many of them ever

These are the men and women Trump worries about!

Another moment of clarity, I hope -- maybe this isn't entirely a new thing?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/08/nixons-revenge-his-media-strategy-triumphs-40-years-after-resignation/375274/

if none of them have reported then they can hardly be liars

Make that eight, if not more...

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, November 21, 2016 5:54 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck off with that "if not more"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, November 21, 2016 5:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

guys donald trump is seven million years old and he lives off burger king and four hours of sleep a night. he's not going to live eight more years.

Keep in mind that an "unnamed source" reporting this to the Trump-friendly NY Post means it probably came from "John Barron" and that may not be the most truthful recap of what went down.

The fact that all these people, journalists who consider themselves journalists, showed up is bad enough tbh

i don't like my republican family members any more than anybody else, but women are more than capable of being republicans on their own two feet and denying them any agency in their votes isn't cool.

many x-posts: FWIW, the first person who ever said "Donald Trump should run for president" was my mom back in 2008. If she were still alive now I believe she would be really happy.

To wit:

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Two @CNN sources say that basically, the @nypost retelling of Trump/media meeting is bullshit

There's a Trump hotel two blocks from the White House that one assumes has been sufficiently coated with gilded diarrhea to satisfy anyone in that family; why stress over the actual accommodations in the House of Whiteness?

but for 45% of the country this will be one of the best parts in the Trump section of real american patriot rock flag and eagle folklore

can't wait for when Breitbart launches a cable TV news network next year and is granted exclusive access to President Trump

The doublespeak from his spokesperson on the radio is completely maddening.

http://www.youtube.com/7xX_KaStFT8

https://youtu.be/7xX_KaStFT8

(Trump on TPPexit and a gazillion other 'hilarious' dumb plans)

hearing trump speaking in anything other than trump-cadence is pretty jarring

trump's gonna end the visa programs that allow him to stock his hotels with cheap immigrant labor every summer, is that right

There will be college grads vying to clean his toilets.

my god he could barely make it through that ("So important")

If he's going to hide in Trump Tower and communicate via youtube clips and twitter, then I guess we can expect full on Big Brother. This is going to be a rough four years.

Incidentally, per vitriol and sore winners, every interview with a Trump supporter I've read has either been gloating or cynical, either "you lost, get over it" or "I don't really expect much, let's see what he does." Add in that piece on also-cynical Milwaukee non-voters and it's just so completely broken down I can't imagine things getting better in less than a generation. So maybe it will!

is the post story supposed to be "trump friendly"? i guess the idea is that people will love their guy dressing down a bunch of big wigs?? cause it just sounds pathetic and absurd to me

Imagine the mind of a person who gets his jollies from picking on Lester Holt.

xp good call, breitb@rt is playing up this very angle

tbh i don't really believe the post version of events. unless trump is literally losing his mind he doesn't have anything to gain from pissing off those ppl behind closed doors, without any of his fans to cheer him on. otoh he has a lot to gain from sweet-talking them and then "leaking" to a friendly newspaper that he really told off those liars at cnn, he really showed them.

or, after hesitantly clicking in, they basically just rehash and link to the ny post but seems like that's the angle theyre supporting thus far
Xp to self

david muir is a nimrod

No, I get you now - I misread you as suggesting that it was invented by misogynist trolls.

I'd struggle to criticise the sign though - the murder rate among black trans women, for example is much higher than black cis men, but they don't get to be the backdrop. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Black Lives Matters, and I'm well aware that it has a higher rate of female leadership than any non-gender-focussed organisation - but I don't know that it lives in a gender-free vacuum.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, November 21, 2016 4:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Absolutely but I'm not saying "no more gender critique" I'm arguing for a re-prioritzation that remembers "women" as a voting bloc are not actually against white patriarchy & should probably enhance/grow the demographic group /priorities of those who are.

At the bottom of the surreal post article was an ad that said "schizophrenia? Learn more."

I wanted to believe that was why I was under the impression that Donald Trump was president elect

My view on the identity/class divide is that both sides are equally planks that complement each other and the left should try, as much as possible, to unite.

I think I cracked the case and we can move on

Everyone agrees with that they just disagree with how that should be done

Idk ppl on both sides often have axes to grind and lose sight of the fact that we elected a bunch of gangsters to the white house

Cf "We are the Left"

I can only speak anecdotally that I don't think a lot of scholars of class conflict are really familiar w the current ideological arguments happening around race & tend to dismiss them as emotional reactive responses instead of, like, actual ideologies. It's a common characterization of "identity politics." Which sometimes might be fair but anyone i see who's like, super class oriented /jacobin published tends to not even consider the possibility that they have ideological opposition on the left, it's always dismissed as a mix of "emotional" reactions and virtue signaling from allies.

I'm not even arguing the race oriented ideology can wholly explain things (though I think the left has been very underresponsive to it), I just think ppl don't even realize there's, like, a historically-based, rational argument that goes beyond "please pay lip service to black issues before pursuing your class critique"

it certainly doesn't help that most people on either side seem to insist that race or class do wholly explain things