Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

(Worth noting that this, the WaPo account, was better reported than the Trib account ... even though a Trib writer was in attendance! And also, fuck you, WaPo, this is no traveling cast, this is our very own stationary 'Hamilton,' you dummies.)

Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I don't recall regularly reading stories about Obama supporters being such sore winners in '08 or '12. I guess electing someone with an untreated profound personality disorder to the office of president kinda upends the notion that public demonstrations of psychological imbalance are socially unacceptable, huh. The near future is gonna be a blast!

Republicans inevitably cite Obama turning to McCain sometime in 2009 during a contentious meeting to remind him, "John, remember I won."

What they miss is that the GOP had denied his legitimacy since November 2008.

The militantly anti-labor direction this is heading is just so predictable.

― Treeship, Monday, November 21, 2016 9:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sorry to say but our choices have been quietly vs militantly anti-labor for some time now. That's part of our problem.

aka Dems v Repugs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/18/how-donald-trump-will-retrofit-midtown-manhattan-as-a-presidential-getaway/?utm_term=.87a2f37bd544&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

lol what a waste of taxpayer dollars

Companies are going to flee out of the city

USFL : Trump's insistence upon moving to a fall schedule :: NYC : Trump's insistence upon continuing to reside in Trump Tower

Trump doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will stubbornly wreck anything and everything to ensure he gets what he wants, no matter how stupid the thing he wants may be.

Maybe the wall was a metaphor and Trump was trying to tell everyone that because of him, "America" ends here.

maybe it's the modern security state that is dumb and if trump wants to run his presidency in NYC he should be allowed to with minimum fuss and if he's assassinated bc of lax security so be it.

Definitely a great argument for lax security.

I'm sort of surprised to hear anyone actually buys anything in those Fifth Ave stores -- I thought they were mostly there as brand-establishers/advertisements.

fifth avenue is incredibly busy this time of year

Any attempt to "reform" the federal civil service without support of the unions AND management (yes there's a civil service management association - because in government, management is a just another layer of labor, because lol hueg) will die in court just like everything they attempted under Dubya

Even Newt Gingrich's comment seemed to subtly acknowledge that they wouldn't be able to just jump in there and gut it.

Who says Trump even has to do any of the things he said he's going to do? He could do nothing and say he succeeded and a huge percentage of the population would either believe him or just yawn. And anything that goes wrong he could just blame on Obama and Clinton and the cast of Hamilton.

I don't think the blaming-your-predecessor stuff is gonna work so well tbh

there's gonna be some kind of crisis/calamity/unforeseen event, he's going to totally fuck it up, and his numbers will tank

a scenario I find much more likely than him successfully implementing any of his half-formed "ideas" and experiencing blowback

Don't like to think about it, but first mass shooting... how will he manage that?

"Hate to say I predicted this but this is why you need to elect me as--- wait what? Uh. Oh fuck."

mass shootings, protests against police brutality, hurricane disasters - - - basically anything calamitous that comes along is an invitation for him to say a spree of incredibly stupid things on Twitter, complaining about how the media keeps focusing on these negative things while he's making america great again without fanfare. iow exactly the same as the election but one has to imagine it might play SLIGHTLY differently coming from a sitting president who people expect to be solving the problems. dunno though.

he'll make some dumb comment about how a vigilant gunholder could've saved the day and that will be that unti the next mass shooting. mass shootings occur regardless of what the president says as we've learned

I'm more concerned about what terrorist attack or mass shooting w/ an Islamist shooter will provoke from him

fallows is okay with mattis as defense secretary fwiw https://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/800737961943953408

take yr comforts where you can find em i guess

that politico piece about PA voters made it pretty clear Trump's on the clock. Batter up, Donnie

I think him taking credit for the Ford plant not moving to Mexico is a good preview of how his presidency is going to go

I really cannot imagine a scenario which doesn't result in him having historically low approval ratings - Dems are absolutely not going to turn around on this guy, and I can't imagine conservatives giving him too many chances, he's already blowing his political capital by hiring some of the absolute dumbest people he can find. He promised too much and insulted too many and has thus far shown zero indication that he's up for the job. I mean already he's talking about living part time at Trump Tower which is so fucking dumb. I predict that the honeymoon is gonna be over real quick.

Mattis has a good reputation with the ForeignPolicy.com crowd AFAIK.

tbh I don't get the stuff that pops up occasionally now among liberals that's already anointing Trump as teflon and everything he says or does will be greeted with a yawn and/or support.

Hillary is going to clear the popular vote by almost 2 million with terrible unfavorables and would be the President if not for James Comey - be afraid of what the GOP can do with all three branches of government but why start acting like public opinion is lost and people are primed to follow Trump into the abyss?

would be the President if not for James Comey

KEEP A-GOIN'

During congratulatory phone call, Trump asks Argentine president to expedite permits on some building projects: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1958082-revelan-que-trump-le-pidio-permiso-a-macri-para-hacer-una-torre

(NB I am relying on TPM's characterization and the rather clunky Google Translate version of this article)

man sure glad we spent weeks gauging Clinton's potential conflicts of interest when Trump's were so much more blatant and widespread, especially since we know he's not gonna make a good faith effort to resolve any of it

lol @ us learning about all this in foreign papers

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/138888/no-bernie-sanders-didnt-ask-supporters-ditch-identity-politics

looking forward to more bad-faith engagements with this sort of stuff for the next...forever

Trump is meeting with that congresswoman from hawaii who was on the bernie train early on... good luck with that bipartisanship don

She is a Republican darling anyway, tbh.

This was from July:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/the-bernie-endorsing-congresswoman-who-trump-fans-can-love.html

i imagine this election has discouraged a lot of great people from ever entering politics, let alone running for president

I imagine this election has encouraged a lot of great people to enter local politics with no intention of ever moving beyond that point.

What was Dubya's lowest approval number? If Bob Altemeyer is right, Nixon's never sunk below 19%, even the day he flew away from the Rose Garden.

In other words, any possible outcome will never drop him before that floor of 1/5th min support.

Below, not before

Didn't know those things about Tulsi Gabbard. Sad.

I heard anti-Gabbard rumblings among Bernie supporters during the primary.

whoa it just hit me, Donald Trump will be the President

I imagine this election has encouraged a lot of great people to enter local politics with no intention of ever moving beyond that point.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, November 21, 2016 1:17 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm... i was really enthusiastic about our green party candidate for Mayor, and he got an impressive amount of the vote (22,000 to the winner's 128,000).

i imagine this election has discouraged a lot of great people from ever entering politics, let alone running for president

― flappy bird, Monday, November 21, 2016 6:14 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

while also encouraging world record holding narcissists to run like kanye

Donald, Imma let you finish, but Grover Cleveland was the best president of all time. OF ALL TIME!

I actually think this election will lead to a huge number of people considering running for office as democrats with an eye to moving beyond local. I predict a candidate "baby boom" of sorts.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307063-fec-hits-trump-on-1100-campaign-errors-worth-13m

http://i.imgur.com/B34TOIa.png

the last time white women voted for a democrat was 1996

that bad boy charm