Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

Going into the election I rated the chances of the respective candidates doing anything whatsoever about global warming at about 0% for Trump vs 0.5% for Clinton

Clinton also couldn't draw when she did rallies. She should have gone to those states more anyway, but I'm just saying she was never going to be Trump.

Another big mistake I thought was the shying away from attacking the entire GOP and refusing to conflate Trump with their agenda (indeed, even trying and failing to peel off "moderate republicans" as a focus). How hard is it to campaign on "these people are going to take your fucking medicaid/medicare away"?

But anyway I was already so pessimistic about what the future looked like under a CLINTON presidency -- no action on global warming, a continued slow march toward privatizing everything, a terrible political landscape for the Democrats going forward, likelihood of one term, etc. And now this is so much worse. Every day is like a fever of nightmare scenarios racing through my head before the fever finally breaks at some point in the evening.

Today my mind was playing out these, for example:

GOP holds up federal funding for sanctuary cities. NYC and other cities litigate. In most cases they probably win, but it takes time, GOP appeals, continues to hold up federal funding pending appeal even if court orders otherwise. Existing SCOTUS precedent favors the cities, but the GOP doesn't care, cities struggle to meet funding gaps for key programs with federal funding, many of which affect the poorest. Meanwhile GOP gets impatient, mass-hires fed immigration police, starts raiding the cities, whole neighborhoods of the boroughs lose 10%, 20%, 30% of their population.

I went further with it too: fed funding loss forces either large budget cuts or tax increases, city services suffer, homelessness on streets increases, track pickup reduced, things start to look more like the 80s, etc. The only reason I think this might not really happen to NYC is that Trump and his family are so invested here.

Every day is like a fever of nightmare scenarios racing through my head before the fever finally breaks at some point in the evening.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:32 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha otm

I feel like the Pences of the world would love to fuck NYC and either don't grasp or don't care about the larger consequences.

i also don't think trump wants to disturb the status quo, despite screaming the exact opposite every day for the past 18 months. he likes his life. becoming president is a severe step down for him - white house, air force one, no more android phone, no more women on the side. i just don't see mass deportations happening under him. too much of a hassle.

(trying to be optimistic here)

Ok if I had to place a bet on most likely scenario, I'd say he does some kind of showy but statistically underwhelming "mass" deportation and acts like it's the biggest deportation of criminal illegals ever.

the fact that a man who led such a life of privilege, a man who found great success in the world's most diverse city, is now going to "go after" helpless immigrants for no reason except they were a convenient scapegoat in his campaign is so nauseating it's hard to contemplate

trump has very few real beliefs of any sort but he obviously loves nyc more than most people who live here

I'm mostly just concerned about 4 years of 5th avenue being a circus / constant midtown street closures etc.

I mean I honestly haven't noticed anything yet, though I don't spend much time north of 42nd st

i went to trump tower out of curiosity a few days ago. only 1 block was closed off but there was police everywhere. the protesters were marching somewhere else.

*there were police everywhere

the sad little downstairs food court at trump tower used to be my go to bathroom in the area. can't imagine I'll ever step foot in that building again.

you could just poop in the lobby

good optics

can't believe the president lives in a tower named after himself btw. it's like a wookiepedia entry.

yeah, all of this is really stupid

*in unison* I DIDN'T RE-A-LIZE ID-I-OC-RA-CY WAS A DOC-U-MEN-TAR-Y!

just grim, feudal

Rev. Barber taking the long view:

http://inthesetimes.com/article/19656/donald-trump-election-reconstruction-william-barber

this thread is worth it just for the links

otm xp (+ not xp)

America must not waste time asking ourselves how this could have happened. It happened because it is a habit written deep in our public memory. If we are willing to see ourselves as we are and have been, we will also see our potential for prophetic resistance, even in times like these.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/11/teaching-1984-in-2016/508226/

I'm mostly just concerned about 4 years of 5th avenue being a circus / constant midtown street closures etc.

who are you and what have you done with iatee

the fact that a man who led such a life of privilege, a man who found great success in the world's most diverse city, is now going to "go after" helpless immigrants for no reason except they were a convenient scapegoat in his campaign is so nauseating it's hard to contemplate

iatee = Tiffanys regular

im fine w/ staying out of midtown except for MoMA (which is 4 blocks from TT but is better approached from the west anyway)

/I'm mostly just concerned about 4 years of 5th avenue being a circus / constant midtown street closures etc./

who are you and what have you done with iatee

it's not just car traffic! they block off large chunks of the city from pedestrians when the president's around

instead, should have focused on trump as a con man - trump U allegations, but also as someone who doesn't pay his workers, takes advantage of tax loopholes, etc. - seems like this is a much more 'universal' message - if there's one thing all americans hate, it's getting conned / fits into a 'fight fire with fire' strategy vis a vis hillary's 'corruption' charges re: emails and clinton foundation

what really sucks about this is that Hillary was pretty much an open book on this, all the information about her and the foundation was out there, along with thousands and thousands of hacked emails - meanwhile Trump volunteered effectively nothing about himself, we know essentially nothing about him or his business dealings, in fact the only thing we really know is through Fahrenthold who found that Trump has given essentially nothing to charity (despite his frequent claims otherwise) and that his foundation engaged in some blatantly illegal behavior. and yet Clinton gets the image of being "corrupt". so like....why bother volunteering information about yourself anymore? apparently people don't care.

Yeah. There was too much confusion and misinformation this election so people weren't able to see the candidates clearly. From an objective standpoint Trump is much less transparent and much more dishonest but the deluge of bad info, I guess, obscured this for people

Good mourning!

My parents tell me their friends said things like, "both are corrupt," as if that settled it

giant meteor 2016 amirite

Holy shit, has Trump said which church he has joined yet? Because he better do that really fucking soon before people start to think he's a Muslim.

Nasty thing is if behaviour during this campaign now allows future candidates to be as unforthcoming about important details. I really don't like the idea of precedents being set for the ability to do wrong and get away with it.

How's he going to drain the swamp if he's the main seepage?

I was really irritated with anyone who said "lesser of two evils". your evil detector is seriously broken if one of these candidates didn't register off the charts for you.

TOMBOT!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/trump-republicans-plan-to-target-government-workers-benefits-and-job-security/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fedworkers-9a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

The militantly anti-labor direction this is heading is just so predictable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/trump-republicans-plan-to-target-everyone-who-isnt-rich-and-then-wonder-for-four-years-why-their-garbage-isnt-being-collected-and-why-they-cant-buy-food-anymore/

On Saturday evening, fans of Broadway’s smash hit “Hamilton” poured into downtown Chicago’s PrivateBank Theatre for a showing put on by the musical’s traveling cast.

...

Presumably, everyone was excited to see the show — tickets, after all, soared to more than $600 for some seats.

John Palmer, 56, was presumably not in this number, though.

In the song “Yorktown (The World Turned Upside Down),” the cast sings “Immigrants / We get the job done.” When the cast reached this line at the Chicago show, the crowd cheered, as has become commonplace.

Palmer, by contrast, stood and yelled profanities, audience member Brea Hayes told the Chicago Tribune. He continued ranting for two songs, according to Chicago Tribune reporter Jodi Cohen, who happened to be in attendance.

During the song “Dear Theodosia,” Palmer allegedly yelled, “We won. You Lost. Get over it. F— you.” He was escorted from the theater with little incident, although he allegedly initially resisted.

“He started raising his voice and throwing up middle fingers at anyone who looked at him, including me and my best friend,” audience member Ken Keacher told pop culture website Pajiba.

Kate Hoyt, who was with Keacher, said, “He was saying things like, ‘We won. Trump is president. Get over it.’ At some point Ken (Keacher) leaned into the aisle to try and tell him to leave and the guy then put up both his fists and said, ‘Let’s go, Democrats. I’ll kill you all.’ ”

Venue staff members told Broadway World that he was intoxicated. Palmer was charged with one misdemeanor count of criminal trespass to land after causing a disturbance at the performance and refusing to leave and has an initial court date set for Jan. 9, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

(Worth noting that this, the WaPo account, was better reported than the Trib account ... even though a Trib writer was in attendance! And also, fuck you, WaPo, this is no traveling cast, this is our very own stationary 'Hamilton,' you dummies.)

Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I don't recall regularly reading stories about Obama supporters being such sore winners in '08 or '12. I guess electing someone with an untreated profound personality disorder to the office of president kinda upends the notion that public demonstrations of psychological imbalance are socially unacceptable, huh. The near future is gonna be a blast!

Republicans inevitably cite Obama turning to McCain sometime in 2009 during a contentious meeting to remind him, "John, remember I won."

What they miss is that the GOP had denied his legitimacy since November 2008.

The militantly anti-labor direction this is heading is just so predictable.

― Treeship, Monday, November 21, 2016 9:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sorry to say but our choices have been quietly vs militantly anti-labor for some time now. That's part of our problem.

aka Dems v Repugs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/18/how-donald-trump-will-retrofit-midtown-manhattan-as-a-presidential-getaway/?utm_term=.87a2f37bd544&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

lol what a waste of taxpayer dollars

Companies are going to flee out of the city

USFL : Trump's insistence upon moving to a fall schedule :: NYC : Trump's insistence upon continuing to reside in Trump Tower

Trump doesn't give a fuck about anyone and will stubbornly wreck anything and everything to ensure he gets what he wants, no matter how stupid the thing he wants may be.

Maybe the wall was a metaphor and Trump was trying to tell everyone that because of him, "America" ends here.