He reminds me of the divorced dad of a friend of mine and my friend would only see him on the weekends and he was always on the phone and he had a younger girlfriend and we'd go to his big empty house and he would ignore us or say a few awkward words to my friend and you never knew what he did for a living and there were always file folders everywhere and he would take off with his girlfriend and me and my friend would just watch cinemax buy ourselves and the gunfire from the action movies we watched would just echo off the walls.
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
"by ourselves"
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
lol
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
what do we think of these conspiracy theories?
https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/a-truly-fancy-bear-2384f413df1c#.n0ymt2dj6http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php
― Treeship, Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:52 AM (two hours ago)
stopped reading after the first sentence of the first one because
Why were our internal and public polls so unprecedentedly off the mark?
they weren't.
― k3vin k., Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link
although our poll aggregators were unprecedentedly off the mark
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link
Fresh wave of anxiety coming on again. oh joy
― flopson, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
wait until inauguration day. the only way to ward off despair will be to take to the streets and yell at him from afar.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
canada will be fine
― k3vin k., Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
I'm stressed about other life stuff atm, but then looking at twitter (or this thread) compounds it. Woke up paralyzed by fear this morning :'(
May be moving to the USA next August :-(
― flopson, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link
i like zuckerberg's honesty here https://twitter.com/ftrain/status/800416102333513729
― 龜, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
haha that's great
― iatee, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
knew that was fake when he mentioned wegmans
― k3vin k., Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
he's arrogant as hell in that, but with a nice touch of humor
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:41 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark
? it's not fake
― 龜, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
this outrage over someone not liking a Broadway play is sure to win Dems back the rust belt in 2020
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link
on further thought, it has to be fake
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link
By the way:http://www.salon.com/2016/11/18/vladimir-putin-successfully-launches-nuclear-test-missile-that-can-reach-america-in-12-minutes/
― who even are those other cats (Eazy), Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
Both the US and the Soviet Union had nuclear missiles that could those things in the 80s.
― darling you were wonderful you really were quite good (snoball), Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
i thought we still did
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
GOP has been craving a president that runs the country like a CEO
Only, he doesn't. What Does Donald Trump Really Want? (Fortune, April 3, 2000)
Among Trump’s theoretical peers, which is to say other rich business people, the situation is different. When Fortune asked several thousand of them to rank 469 companies for its 1999 list of Most Admired Companies, they put Trump’s casino company dead last. More specifically, they ranked it worst in quality of management, use of corporate assets, employee talent, long-term investment value, and social responsibility.
Frankly, I'd take a successful CEO any day over this trust fund narcissist.
― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
No one said he would run America like a good CEO, whatever that even is.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
The fuck are you talking about?
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), 20. november 2016 20:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No they weren't. Just a couple of points, completely normal.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:14 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the cast of a fey broadway musical giving a lecture to the VP-elect cements every bias and preconceived notion moderates & conservatives have about liberals: they are contemptuous of you, hypocritical, and arrogant beyond belief. the booing is one thing- but man, what a stupid fucking move on behalf of Lin Manuel-Miranda to write that speech directed at Pence.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
everyone needs to quit pearl clutching and think about this strategically. the deeper the left delves into its bubble and panics and prepares for the Trump admin like it'll be an autocracy is so ridiculous. there will be another election in 4 years!! for the first time since 1992, there will be a primary challenger for incumbent Trump!
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
^amending that fucked up sentence... the deeper the left delves into its own bubble, two terms of Trump are all but guaranteed...
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link
xp yes, I'm aware of what actually *happened*, since I posted about it. None of it can be characterized as "outrage over someone not liking a Broadway play" which is so close to idiotic as to be indistinguishable.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
the speech itself was fairly respectful tbf
we're getting two terms of Trump because lol USA
― Nhex, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
the content of the speech doesn't matter. it's bad optics.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
xpLol Dems, more to the point. I'm not 100% convinced that Hillary won't try running again in 202.
― nickn, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
I agree that I got bored when the 567th person on my Facebook feed commented on the story yesterday, but the counterarguments -- "While we were laughing at Mike Pence, some REAL NEWS was happening...like Trump U!" -- bore me too. We're already in a bubble, flappy bird -- all of us. Trump supports will neither read nor care about Trump U settlement, Hamilton, or Putin.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
And I love the idea that this, which constitutes the cast's statement IN ITS ENTIRETY, constitutes a "lecture."
“We, sir, we are the diverse America, who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights, sir. But we truly hope that this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and to work on behalf of all of us.”
WOW SUCH LECTURE SO STRIDENT WOW
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
I ain't gonna hear about "bad optics" re: people who spent the last six months yelling TRUMP THAT BITCH and LOCK HER UP.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
is flappy bird Chuck Todd?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
the deeper the left delves into its bubble and panics and prepares for the Trump admin like it'll be an autocracy is so ridiculous.
worked for the right, may as well try it. sure, there were two terms of obama, but 8 years later they control everything
― intheblanks, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/800454155693387776/qp1zXwQA.jpg
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
OOF alfred that hurts... Chuck Todd has the worst hair i've ever seen on any human. i can't stand him, BUT it has helped me in the past week and a half to anesthetize my morality & beliefs and focus entirely on strategy, just to stay sane...
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
being half facetious of course, but the thing that has shocked me the most about the last 8 years is the total lack of punishment for wanton obstructionism, and i think the left should probably learn that lesson.
― intheblanks, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
"What did you do in the war, dad?"
"Well son, I certainly didn't delve into my bubble - bad optics"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
― flappy bird,
worse than Hewitt's?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
hugh hewitt? never noticed his hair... Chuck Todd looks like he had a Prince Valiant going on then went to Super Cuts and now it's growing back in.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
Wait, Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote the speech?
― Frederik B, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
according to the Times
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 November 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
Can we please stop pretending that 59 words constitutes a speech?
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
it's not clear to me what "good optics" or strategy would be. i guess the dems should strengthen the economic parts of their message, show some of that bernie sanders outrage at inequality. (i've always felt that way). but all this talk about how clinton's campaign lost due to "identity politics" makes me uncomfortable. if identity politics is clinton talking about her own glass ceiling then fine, ditch it. but if it means protecting abortion rights, marriage equality, and fighting for criminal justice reform and equal pay then i am not ready to abandon identity politics.
i say this as someone who complains, all the time, about stuff like the yale halloween controversy.
― Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
there are definitely illiberal tendencies among portions of the identitarian left, especially on campus. but there is still such a thing as institutional racism and sexism, which manifest in ways that require policy solutions. we still need the democrats for that.
― Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
When the cast of "Hamilton" is making policy for the DNC somebody send me a telegram plz
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
The Hamilton statement cheered me up a little, that someone was saying that to Mike Pence to his face. I assume many other people felt the same. It was worth doing even if that was the only effect.
― jmm, Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link
xp phil D., well, they are an avatar of multiculturalism and so the right will assimilate them into its "culture war" narrative. i disagree with flappy bird in that i don't think we can win that one way or the other because they're not playing fair. any overture the left makes toward white rural america needs to be on its own terms. you need to wrench them away from the propaganda with a vigorous economic message... there is no benefit to the dems in forsaking the cultural/identity side of their platform, which the right misrepresents anyway
― Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
The story would have still been news. The crowd was booing at Pence, and the musical itself is pretty fucking political. The audience was laughing at Pence during What Comes Next:
What comes next?You’ve been freedDo you know how hard it is to lead?
You’re on your ownAwesome. WowDo you have a clue what happens now?
Oceans riseEmpires fallIt’s much harder when it’s all your call
All alone, across the seaWhen your people say they hate youDon’t come crawling back to me
Or rather, it could very possibly have become a story. Trump turned it into one when he started harassing the cast and producers for using their first amendment protected free speech. You can't 'strategize' around an irrational lying scumbag racist sexist homophobe with thin skin and no self-control. Not having that turn into yet another clusterfuck would entail everyone just shutting up about what's happening all the time, and, not to sound all Westworld, but Pence isn't normal. He is a gay-conversion loving extremist who became vice-president elect on a campaign of hatred against hispanics in particular, and who now thinks he can go to a play made by a hispanic man about the benefits of Caribbean immigrants, acted by many gay actors, as if nothing has happened. That's not normal.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 20 November 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link