Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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damning with faint praise but George W. Bush has a likability and moral authority and thoughtfulness that Trump lacks, which is how he got a full eight years.

― nomar, Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

W also way way more integrated into his party

, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

xp i honestly am a little miffed that his twitter handle is not @waxlrose

j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

You don't understand the US political press. General rule of thumb: suck up to Republicans, nitpick Democrats to death.

I don't think the press under trump will be anything like it was under bush. I don't think we have to worry about the normal sycophancy / 'let's just trust what the admin says' journalism as much as we have to worry about reality tv journalism. there will be very few slow news days w/ these clowns. but the clickbait stories and the important ones are not going to always overlap. 'eric trump gives a monkey a tour of the white house' will get more press than some concurrent money scandal etc.

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

If dude doesn't back down and apologize, and Republicans end up boycotting Hamilton, it will be much easier for everyone else to get tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

within two years I think the dems might have the ability to win races in places we could never dream of. trump admin is gonna be a disaster on a level not comparable to anything in recent history.

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:33 PM (one hour ago)

He'll be blaming every failure on others: Dems, immigrants, whichever bogeyman is imagined to be under the public bed at the time. And they'll believe him instead of believing their own eyes, ears, and brains. He'll be floating above it all in a rickety Chinese-made gold-lamé hot-air balloon (buoyed by he hot air from his mouth) as his enemies are churned against rocky cliffs in the roiling surf below & his supporters dump boiling oil on anyone who manages to get safely ashore.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

eric trump gives a monkey a tour of the white house' will get more press than some concurrent money scandal etc.
LOL OTM.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

Gunna post this here, since I think this is a great podcast ep of "Delete Your Acct," serving as an OpSec 101, or what any of us can do with our communications in the modern surveillance state.

It's an interview with Freddy Martinez, who did great work exposing shit like the cops using Stingray technology as well as what horseshit the Chicago PD has been up to.

I personally use my phone a lot without always remembering that every single mobile phone is effectively a tracking device.

https://deleteyouraccount.libsyn.com/dont-get-caught

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

i think there are too many dissenters for them to go after us like that.

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

This is a bit worrisome.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Now, in my experience, the DIRNSA is always a dickhead who is mainly in charge of taking hundreds of millions of your dollars and setting them on fire while looking for the next big thing that will precognitively ID the threats to America so he can look better than his peers at FBI, CIA, etc. So IMHO it doesn't matter that much which 4-star thinks he runs the shop, since the Deputy DIRNSA is always a career civilian who rose up from a GS-11 or so and is a nerd and understands how the actual mission operates, etc. But we really don't need every single one of the spy agencies being political from the top down.

And given that a few days before this, Rogers went in front of the press to clarify that Russians deliberately interfered in our political process, it's just fishy as all hell.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

sucking up to power, D or R, is the only duty of the press

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

NY Times piece on Jared Kushner. Apparently hosted a fundraiser at his house for Cory Booker several years ago.

timellison, Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link

i walked past Trump Tower tonight (other side of Fifth). The NYPD overtime looks phenomenal... I wonder if that Starbucks on the 2nd floor you can see from the street is doing hot walk-in business.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

Michelle Rhee & Kevin Johnson met with Trump today. Biting down on cyanide capsule in 3 2 1

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 November 2016 07:44 (seven years ago) link

trump admin is gonna be a disaster on a level not comparable to anything in recent history.

― iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:33 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seems likely yes

― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:34 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sadly the economy could (could) rebound enough in the next couple of years to make up for this, at least if Trump's deficit spending comes to fruition:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/the-long-haul

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/19/trump-economic-policies-growth-us-economy

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

I met someone yesterday living in the UK but with a vote in the US - SC maybe?

She was horrified by Trump in a standard way.
She also didn't vote for HRC, nor a third party, but wrote in some kind of insult.

She said: 'We need a woman President - but NOT THIS ONE. Not with her emails, etc'.

I think she added: 'We needed a black President - but not Barack Obama'.

I assume she would have said 'We need a Catholic President - but NEVER JFK'
and: 'We need a reforming, progressive Democratic President - but I can't bring myself to vote for FDR'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:39 (seven years ago) link

We need a tall President - but not this "Abe" Lincoln

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link

'We need a talking horse, but not Mr Ed"

Mark G, Sunday, 20 November 2016 10:01 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/us/politics/jared-kushner-donald-trump.html

doesn't mention how he is a notorious slumlord in NYC

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Sadly the economy could (could) rebound enough in the next couple of years to make up for this, at least if Trump's deficit spending comes to fruition:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/the-long-haul

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/19/trump-economic-policies-growth-us-economy

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:36 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark

isn't deficit against the GOP's principles though - they've hammered so long at the bogeyman of the NATIONAL DEBT how are they going to go along with this? i guess the answer is obvious - defund medicare, medicaid, social security, and ACA

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2016/03/30/jared_kushner_not_good.php

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

the editor of Kushner's Observer was a coworker of mine in the '90s (also a Chicago indie-rock bandleader)

maybe i should try to get in as film critic for the New Regime

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

It's only a deficit because the economy isn't growing fast enough, because the 1% pay more than 20%.

Krugman's wrong here. Fiscal stimulus won't help much when interest rates are skyrocketing.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Republicans are fine with national debt as long as they get a new war to play with (e.g., the gwb era).

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

xpost Ken Kurson, right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

yes JiC

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

“Melania is extremely close to Barron, and they have become closer during the campaign,” said a source close to Trump’s transition team.

i like the phrasing of this, which all but tells you that donald isn't all that close to his ten year old child. they just don't have much in common. no bigs

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

what do we think of these conspiracy theories?

https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/a-truly-fancy-bear-2384f413df1c#.n0ymt2dj6
http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

Read Barron as Bannon for a second there.

how's life, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

lol

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

i hope he pulls a luke skywalker

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Xp: lol. The author of the first one is a friend from college. Didn't realize that had gotten so much traction. Iirc, someone poked holes some pretty big holes in that on his initial FB post, but I also really have a hard time evaluating what is real anymore.

how's life, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php

― Treeship, Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:52 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark

i want to believe the russian hacker theory too but pieces like the one that alfred linked to for florida show a more plausible explanation - rural white voters came out in force for trump

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Treeship, you gotta keep up, man:

http://theslot.jezebel.com/nsa-head-openly-accuses-russia-of-using-wikileaks-to-ge-1789051302

Now back up and read my last post and have a good time

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

https://gop.com/100-day-plan-action-survey/

i voted

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Oh wait the Gothamist piece is much more specific. No, a hack of the integrity of the vote count itself unequivocally did not happen.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

kinda amazing to imagine four years of the White House basically gathering dust as far as its role as a functioning residence is concerned. You get so used to all the puff-piece stuff, kids books giving you a tour, wow, it even has a bowling alley! Being President must be the funnest job in the world! and the Trumps are basically like fuck it we already have a bowling alley and all the pins are gold-plated. Thank God I don't live on the UWS anymore, the security detail covering Barron Trump's daily school attendance sounds like it'd be a major headache.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

https://gop.com/100-day-plan-action-survey/

i voted

I did too! That list is really sad and dumb. Like every 3rd question was HOW MUCH DRILL BABY?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Read it, but since there was no "ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?" option for any of the questions, i found myself unable to vote.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

^ in a nutshell

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

What if Russia hacked the election by increasing turnout of white rural voters!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, Trump is still going on Hamilton! Last night he tweeted, then shortly deleted: "Very rude and insulting of Hamilton cast member to treat our great future V.P. Mike Pence to a theater lecture. Couldn’t even memorize lines!" Then at 3:22 this morning: "The cast and producers of Hamilton, which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Mike Pence for their terrible behavior" - I mean I get that we can easily get sucked into this as a distraction from the TrumpU settlement and all the noxious people he's putting on his team, but seriously, this fucking guy.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

They should remove Hamilton from all money and replace him with our great future VP Mike Pence. It's the right thing to do.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

So are we basically at the point where Trump is essentially merging with the government, just sucking it up like a hostile takeover business venture? GOP has been craving a president that runs the country like a CEO, and I guess now they got one.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

Couldn’t even memorize lines!

Ha, what? Does he mean the speech? Like, this proves that Brandon Victor Dixon must be a poor actor?

jmm, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Here's all the dumb shit from the first 100 days survey, I categorized it because I have issues

Immigration:
* Begin constructing the wall along the Southern border.
* End all federal funding to sanctuary cities that circumvent the law in order to provide protection to illegal immigrants.
* Begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants.
* Suspend immigration from regions compromised by terrorism and where vetting cannot safely occur.

Healthcare & Education:
* Repeal and replace ObamaCare.
* Allow Americans to deduct childcare and eldercare from their taxes.
* Reform the Department of Veterans Affairs in order to provide proper treatment to America’s forgotten heroes.
* Let veterans receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice.
* End Common Core and bring education supervision to local communities.
* Pass school-choice measures that redirect education dollars to give parents the right to send their kids to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious, or home school of their choice.

Judiciary Appointments:
* Appoint a strong constitutionalist to the Supreme Court in the mold of the late Justice Antonin Scalia.

Rich get richer:
* Introduce an infrastructure package to modernize our country.
* Unleash the Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act, which will cut taxes for middle-class families and simplify the tax brackets in order to streamline the process.

Especially oil companies:
* Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars worth of American energy, including shale, oil, natural gas, and clean coal.
* End bans on offshore drilling in order to end our dependence on Middle East oil and make America energy independent.
* Sign into law the Senate’s existing bill to build the Keystone Pipeline.
* Cancel billions of dollars in payments to U.N. climate change programs, and use that money to fix our own country.

Foreign Policy / Defense:
* Introduce plan to defeat ISIS.
* Set the standard for an “America First” foreign policy that ends regime-change, nation-building, and instead focuses on a motto of peace through strength.
* Direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.
* End the defense sequester in order to rebuild our depleted military.
* Announce our official withdrawal from the TPP.
* Renegotiate NAFTA into terms that protect the American worker.

"Blue Lives Matter":
* Pass the Restoring Community Safety Act in order to reduce crime, drugs, and violence in our cities, and provide funding for programs that train and assist local police.

"Federal Government. BAD!":
* Cut the government regulations that lead businesses to leave our country in the first place.
* Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum, and order issued by Obama.
* Propose a constitutional amendment to impose terms limits on all members of Congress.
* Enact a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.
* Pass the Clean Up Corruption in Washington Act in order to “drain the swamp” that has polluted our capital for decades.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Impressively there's nothing in there about flushing NATO down the toilet and recognizing the Crimea as belonging to my good friend, Putin.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

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Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

xps I think it's just more Trump-making-shit-up. At this point, for most of the Internet Right, I would guess that Hamilton is best known as a failing musical that denigrates the Founding Fathers (and maybe Honest Abe also, who knows), where nobody remembers their lines and they boo any white or straight people who walk in the door, before turning the stage over to Spirit Cooking. Of course all of that is just a publicity stunt, like their desperate ticket giveaways, to get SJWs to show up now that a boycott by Trump supporters is putting the nail in the coffin of this unpopular and un-American celebration of New York Values.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

tombot, that falls under this


* Set the standard for an “America First” foreign policy that ends regime-change, nation-building, and instead focuses on a motto of peace through strength.

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link


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