Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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xxp that assumes that Trump cares at all about re-election, when he barely cared about election. We keep treating him like a politician, when that's not what he is.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

oh no are we normalizing Bush too

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:21 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wait until we elect that disembodied evil spirit from the novel It. we'll be yearning for the days of trump.

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

bush normalized himself to an extent by painting goofy portraits and making friends with michelle and dancing awkwardly at funerals

the late great, Saturday, 19 November 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Trumps admin will leak like a sieve. He rules by conflict. People are gonna dime on their enemies via leak.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

"I didn't come to this administration to make friends"

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

Also this Hamilton flap is probably giving bannon a raging hard on. Nothing says snobby librul elites like broadway.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

xp my hope with this sort of crowd, Trump, also Putin, is that ruthless assholes make enemies of other assholes they work with, and through these conflicts they get weakened

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

The media wants scandals, and with Clinton out of the picture, now they only have Trump to focus on

You don't understand the US political press. General rule of thumb: suck up to Republicans, nitpick Democrats to death.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

axl rose repeatedly going after trump is a new favorite development

, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

damning with faint praise but George W. Bush has a likability and moral authority and thoughtfulness that Trump lacks, which is how he got a full eight years.

― nomar, Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

W also way way more integrated into his party

, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

xp i honestly am a little miffed that his twitter handle is not @waxlrose

j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

You don't understand the US political press. General rule of thumb: suck up to Republicans, nitpick Democrats to death.

I don't think the press under trump will be anything like it was under bush. I don't think we have to worry about the normal sycophancy / 'let's just trust what the admin says' journalism as much as we have to worry about reality tv journalism. there will be very few slow news days w/ these clowns. but the clickbait stories and the important ones are not going to always overlap. 'eric trump gives a monkey a tour of the white house' will get more press than some concurrent money scandal etc.

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

If dude doesn't back down and apologize, and Republicans end up boycotting Hamilton, it will be much easier for everyone else to get tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

within two years I think the dems might have the ability to win races in places we could never dream of. trump admin is gonna be a disaster on a level not comparable to anything in recent history.

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:33 PM (one hour ago)

He'll be blaming every failure on others: Dems, immigrants, whichever bogeyman is imagined to be under the public bed at the time. And they'll believe him instead of believing their own eyes, ears, and brains. He'll be floating above it all in a rickety Chinese-made gold-lamé hot-air balloon (buoyed by he hot air from his mouth) as his enemies are churned against rocky cliffs in the roiling surf below & his supporters dump boiling oil on anyone who manages to get safely ashore.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

eric trump gives a monkey a tour of the white house' will get more press than some concurrent money scandal etc.
LOL OTM.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

Gunna post this here, since I think this is a great podcast ep of "Delete Your Acct," serving as an OpSec 101, or what any of us can do with our communications in the modern surveillance state.

It's an interview with Freddy Martinez, who did great work exposing shit like the cops using Stingray technology as well as what horseshit the Chicago PD has been up to.

I personally use my phone a lot without always remembering that every single mobile phone is effectively a tracking device.

https://deleteyouraccount.libsyn.com/dont-get-caught

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

i think there are too many dissenters for them to go after us like that.

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

This is a bit worrisome.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Now, in my experience, the DIRNSA is always a dickhead who is mainly in charge of taking hundreds of millions of your dollars and setting them on fire while looking for the next big thing that will precognitively ID the threats to America so he can look better than his peers at FBI, CIA, etc. So IMHO it doesn't matter that much which 4-star thinks he runs the shop, since the Deputy DIRNSA is always a career civilian who rose up from a GS-11 or so and is a nerd and understands how the actual mission operates, etc. But we really don't need every single one of the spy agencies being political from the top down.

And given that a few days before this, Rogers went in front of the press to clarify that Russians deliberately interfered in our political process, it's just fishy as all hell.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

sucking up to power, D or R, is the only duty of the press

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

NY Times piece on Jared Kushner. Apparently hosted a fundraiser at his house for Cory Booker several years ago.

timellison, Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link

i walked past Trump Tower tonight (other side of Fifth). The NYPD overtime looks phenomenal... I wonder if that Starbucks on the 2nd floor you can see from the street is doing hot walk-in business.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

Michelle Rhee & Kevin Johnson met with Trump today. Biting down on cyanide capsule in 3 2 1

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 November 2016 07:44 (seven years ago) link

trump admin is gonna be a disaster on a level not comparable to anything in recent history.

― iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:33 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seems likely yes

― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:34 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sadly the economy could (could) rebound enough in the next couple of years to make up for this, at least if Trump's deficit spending comes to fruition:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/the-long-haul

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/19/trump-economic-policies-growth-us-economy

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

I met someone yesterday living in the UK but with a vote in the US - SC maybe?

She was horrified by Trump in a standard way.
She also didn't vote for HRC, nor a third party, but wrote in some kind of insult.

She said: 'We need a woman President - but NOT THIS ONE. Not with her emails, etc'.

I think she added: 'We needed a black President - but not Barack Obama'.

I assume she would have said 'We need a Catholic President - but NEVER JFK'
and: 'We need a reforming, progressive Democratic President - but I can't bring myself to vote for FDR'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:39 (seven years ago) link

We need a tall President - but not this "Abe" Lincoln

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link

'We need a talking horse, but not Mr Ed"

Mark G, Sunday, 20 November 2016 10:01 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/us/politics/jared-kushner-donald-trump.html

doesn't mention how he is a notorious slumlord in NYC

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Sadly the economy could (could) rebound enough in the next couple of years to make up for this, at least if Trump's deficit spending comes to fruition:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/the-long-haul

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/19/trump-economic-policies-growth-us-economy

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:36 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark

isn't deficit against the GOP's principles though - they've hammered so long at the bogeyman of the NATIONAL DEBT how are they going to go along with this? i guess the answer is obvious - defund medicare, medicaid, social security, and ACA

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2016/03/30/jared_kushner_not_good.php

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

the editor of Kushner's Observer was a coworker of mine in the '90s (also a Chicago indie-rock bandleader)

maybe i should try to get in as film critic for the New Regime

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

It's only a deficit because the economy isn't growing fast enough, because the 1% pay more than 20%.

Krugman's wrong here. Fiscal stimulus won't help much when interest rates are skyrocketing.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Republicans are fine with national debt as long as they get a new war to play with (e.g., the gwb era).

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

xpost Ken Kurson, right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

yes JiC

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

“Melania is extremely close to Barron, and they have become closer during the campaign,” said a source close to Trump’s transition team.

i like the phrasing of this, which all but tells you that donald isn't all that close to his ten year old child. they just don't have much in common. no bigs

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

what do we think of these conspiracy theories?

https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/a-truly-fancy-bear-2384f413df1c#.n0ymt2dj6
http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

Read Barron as Bannon for a second there.

how's life, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

lol

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

i hope he pulls a luke skywalker

Treeship, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Xp: lol. The author of the first one is a friend from college. Didn't realize that had gotten so much traction. Iirc, someone poked holes some pretty big holes in that on his initial FB post, but I also really have a hard time evaluating what is real anymore.

how's life, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php

― Treeship, Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:52 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark

i want to believe the russian hacker theory too but pieces like the one that alfred linked to for florida show a more plausible explanation - rural white voters came out in force for trump

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Treeship, you gotta keep up, man:

http://theslot.jezebel.com/nsa-head-openly-accuses-russia-of-using-wikileaks-to-ge-1789051302

Now back up and read my last post and have a good time

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

https://gop.com/100-day-plan-action-survey/

i voted

, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Oh wait the Gothamist piece is much more specific. No, a hack of the integrity of the vote count itself unequivocally did not happen.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

kinda amazing to imagine four years of the White House basically gathering dust as far as its role as a functioning residence is concerned. You get so used to all the puff-piece stuff, kids books giving you a tour, wow, it even has a bowling alley! Being President must be the funnest job in the world! and the Trumps are basically like fuck it we already have a bowling alley and all the pins are gold-plated. Thank God I don't live on the UWS anymore, the security detail covering Barron Trump's daily school attendance sounds like it'd be a major headache.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

https://gop.com/100-day-plan-action-survey/

i voted

I did too! That list is really sad and dumb. Like every 3rd question was HOW MUCH DRILL BABY?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Read it, but since there was no "ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?" option for any of the questions, i found myself unable to vote.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

^ in a nutshell

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

What if Russia hacked the election by increasing turnout of white rural voters!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 November 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link


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