Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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This is an obedience test to those who support his party. How much will his enemies within it put up?

https://storify.com/miniver/how-fascism-accumulates-power-by-testing-people

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

yeah that's not especially helpful or lucid

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link

sure it's a twitter rant but the idea of testing, pushing people def resonates w/me

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

(the idea of Trump & co. doing so, that is)

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

I underestimated what Trump could get away with and how much support he'd get during the campaign, I'd rather not underestimate what he'll do now that he's got massive amounts of power.

JoeStork, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

doesn't seem like gender and/or ethnic diversity is much of a consideration in trump's staffing

rip van wanko, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:22 (seven years ago) link

seriously? like someone said upthread, the hysteria is getting really tiresome. trump is not going to be an authoritarian. he won. we're going to have another election in 4 years. as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad

For one thing idk how good your memory is but people booed the current President during his own fucking state of the union address. For another Mike Pence would happily and with a beaming smile would send half the cast and audience of Hamilton to "gay conversion therapy" so he can choke on a bag of fucking elephant dicks. Nobody in that room or on that stage owes him anything but scorn.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:38 (seven years ago) link

xp he has four white men named Mike and zero women or nonwhite people.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

was this linked yet?

throughout the elections i've enjoyed reading Bouie more than anyone. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_democrats_are_already_screwing_up_the_trump_resistance.html

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

oh ok yeah, it was all over the place. thought i had all the messages opened.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:41 (seven years ago) link

my partner, who teaches art in NYC schools through support programs, is telling me that administrations and teachers are openly freaking the fuck out at the possibility of Trump trying to shut down the dept of education. meanwhile, kids are sensing the madness and acting out; she's seen multiple fist fights in classes. sounds dire in classrooms right now. any other teachers want to weigh in? Abbs?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

it's been mentioned before, but that remnick/nyer articler is something else. this quote alone:

“In ’08, they saw me coming, but I was a guy named Barack Hussein Obama coming up against the Clinton machine, so no way! So they weren’t focussed on me, and I established a connection. Then came the stuff: Ayers and Reverend Wright and all the rest. What I’m suggesting is that the lens through which people understand politics and politicians is extraordinarily powerful. And Trump understands the new ecosystem, in which facts and truth don’t matter. You attract attention, rouse emotions, and then move on. You can surf those emotions. I’ve said it before, but if I watched Fox I wouldn’t vote for me!”

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:22 (seven years ago) link

also, this is maybe where I think I might be able to be useful doing immediate volunteer work with computer classes and tutoring ESOL. Anybody supported Make the Road in the past? My experience with people engaging with them has been positive.
http://www.maketheroad.org/participate_jobs.php

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link

there are these heartbreaking moments of realism, things you knew everyone was thinking but wondered if he thought himself. and then, alongside it, stuff like

"Obama’s final appearance, on the eve of Election Day, was at an outdoor rally next to Independence Hall, in Philadelphia, alongside Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, and the Clintons.", switchbacks into the fugue state

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

way down the list i'd like us to retire "leader of the free world"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:53 (seven years ago) link

Texas Republicans filed a bill to force educators to narc on LGBTQ kids to their parents. Pretty much ready to just start burning shit down.

I do wonder what the backlash to Christian Coalition 2: Electric Boogaloo might look like, I feel like a lot of people got used to the progress that had seemingly been made since 2008 unless they lived in a pit like Indiana (and even then there was a DOJ fighting some of the worst of it).

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link

Nation link courtesy of a 72-year-old friend, from 2004 but still inspiring:

Looking at this catalogue of huge surprises, it’s clear that the struggle for justice should never be abandoned because of the apparent overwhelming power of those who have the guns and the money and who seem invincible in their determination to hold on to it. That apparent power has, again and again, proved vulnerable to human qualities less measurable than bombs and dollars: moral fervor, determination, unity, organization, sacrifice, wit, ingenuity, courage, patience–whether by blacks in Alabama and South Africa, peasants in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Vietnam, or workers and intellectuals in Poland, Hungary and the Soviet Union itself. No cold calculation of the balance of power need deter people who are persuaded that their cause is just.

https://www.thenation.com/article/optimism-uncertainty/

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:56 (seven years ago) link

as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad

wtf??!??!

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link

@jeremyscahill
Look folks, he's the Vice President and deserves the respect of all the gay people and Muslims and women he despises. We are America!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link

There is not nearly enough booing in that clip -- way, way too much cheering.

the pinefox, Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:54 (seven years ago) link

far too few buckets of urine being dumped on his head

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:56 (seven years ago) link

The Hamilton guy read a statement to Pence after the musical and Pence was still there. It's om their Facebook page.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/HamiltonMusical/status/799828567941120000?lang=en

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link

Alex Q. Arbuckle‏@alexqarbuckle
Mike Pence getting booed at Hamilton is the worst thing to ever happen to a politician at a play

[...]

Alex Q. Arbuckle ‏@alexqarbuckle
Please stop tweeting at me about Abraham Lincoln. I don't know who that is and I don't care

Frederik B, Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

Some of you may think the equity markets demonstrate the 1% are content with the election results. The bond markets are many times larger, its participants generally smarter.

Global Bonds Post Biggest Two-Week Loss in Quarter Century

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

Omg lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

so much for the pivot to the center

, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

"Apologize, Hamilton! I demand you apologize! And if you have an extra pair of tickets, I'll pay face. But first ... apologize!!!"

http://katherineclark.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=FE5B2F16-7591-41DC-9846-25FEA4D1CFA1

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

(Sorry, that link is not Hamilton related, it's a bill proposed to no longer exempt president and VP from conflict of interest.)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

So has the Tyrant in Chief elect been heard from publicly since he was elected? Hope he's getting his vitamin D.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

if that was harassment, he's gonna have a long six months

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

what do you guys think of trump having candidates for cabinet positions meet him at the tower, where they have to push past camera crews and ride a gold elevator to the 58th floor? sort of like the apprentice. pretty coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllll

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2m5qgfPzws

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

Ethan Lawrence ‏@EthanDLawrence 2h
@realDonaldTrump TRIGGERED! SOMEONE FIND A SAFE SPACE FOR THE SNOWFLAKE!

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

omg FUCK THESE FUCKING FUCKERS
i keep vacillating between paranoia and anger and fury and disbelief and hysterical laughter
but then i remember that things go in cycles that need fixing, way that donnie trump is just amping like nixon
but cotdamm this shit is making me jumpy

(nice find scott)

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

i'm having a hard time turning my focus away from this shit and toward the things i want to accomplish in my personal life, which range in seriousness from finishing this health insurance application to finding a new career

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Just thinking that things act on precedents and the parameter shifts current activity may allow are horifying.
Also that human rights fought for for decades aren't static.
& the idea of alt-right nominations for national security at a time when there's still need for Black Lives Matter protest can only lead to negative places.

If human rights for those that need them reinforced are deemed negligible are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

Has the Bannon Hollywood Reporter article been discussed?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

timellison, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

right. healthcare.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

IUD bookings up 900% from October:

http://www.vocativ.com/376404/iuds-reproductive-rights-trump-pence/

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

The juxtaposition with the collapse in gun sales is ...not funny

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

are the next 4 years going to be filled with Cointelpro like attempts to undermine protest?

yes

j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

Maybe trump can get sharpton to help out

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/bostonsboy87/status/800024575551696896

j., Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Wow. Maybe he should have told the guy earlier not to wear the t-shirts and talk about politics.

Bannon in that Hollywood Reporter insane article, which was discussed upthread, never did address how he rationalizes Trump's tax plans as being populist. He doesn't mention them at all.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

^these dudes are getting a nice fat fucking check from me this year.

cucky ramen-o (will), Saturday, 19 November 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

white people in mississippi are still gonna think it's an official Trump ad though. probably brings a smile to their face as they drive by.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link


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