Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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i wouldn't expect short term economic disaster.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/inside-the-market/market-updates/premarket-us-dollar-charges-to-14-year-high-bonds-in-full-swing/article32922878/

def expect unpredictability tho, which obv could mean disaster.

there were long-range forecasts i read a while back that expected a u.s. recession during the term of the next president (assumed at the time to be clinton). so there's that too.

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

While there are ways Trump is already betraying the voters who elected him, particularly with his eager embrace of lobbyists and Wall Street tycoons, when it comes to race they don’t have much to fear. Trump’s victory demonstrated the staggering power of a white nationalist appeal, and not because it drew in so many voters (let’s not forget that Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump, by 1.4 million and rising as of the latest count). The power of that appeal can be seen in what Trump voters were willing to overlook in order to vote for the white nationalist candidate. It’s why, every time Trump said something awful or some new scandal was revealed, everyone who said “Surely his candidacy is finished now” was wrong. It’s what kept him going strong when he questioned John McCain’s service (the first thing people said would destroy him), when we learned about the scam that was Trump University, when we found out that he didn’t pay federal taxes, and when we heard him on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women and then a dozen women came forward to say that he done what he said he did.

In every case, his supporters laughed it off. Trump’s unapologetic embrace of white identity politics, coming after decades of Republicans who would only promote it through dog-whistles and implication, was so thrilling and empowering to them that there was almost nothing they couldn’t accommodate themselves to, twisting the latest controversy around in their minds until it became evidence of Trump’s virtue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/18/when-you-elect-a-white-nationalist-president-you-get-a-white-nationalist-presidency/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.a90cfe1abade

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

Sessions is getting confirmed. Senate courtesy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

jackoff sesh

velko, Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

this is like watching your house burn down in slow motion

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jasonfebery/status/799273256138076160

We're going to perpetually be stunned by his principle-free hypocrisy until we acknowledge the real reason he's politically bulletproof (you know where I'm going with this)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 November 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

One small amusement - the Twitter people who retweet and rush to praise the remaining NeverTrumpers but get real quiet when those people praise Sessions. The party itself is a cancer.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link

Is Trump going to rule as a vicious authoritarian or will he just bullshit and equivocate over the next four years, causing harm by enacting Republican policies but nothing so wild in terms of immigration, trade policy, or the military?

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

probably the former

the late great, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:24 (seven years ago) link

neither

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

He sure is appointing some scary people to his cabinet...

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

he will bullshit and equivocate while the ppl he appoints rule as vicious authoritarians

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/799798508673003520

The bootlicking is in full effect at the NYT between deej's link and this .

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that sounds right to me too. The Reagan or Bush II method

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

xp

Treeship, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Is there any pence slashfic out there

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link

Pence's head and face always remind me of what a latex Halloween mask of Pence would undoubtedly look like.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjodxBrB9eI

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

I liked this

https://twitter.com/KateAurthur/status/799822616890478592

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

this cabinet is a fucking nightmare

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:45 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/799798508673003520

The bootlicking is in full effect at the NYT between deej's link and this .

― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Friday, November 18, 2016 10:27 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seriously? like someone said upthread, the hysteria is getting really tiresome. trump is not going to be an authoritarian. he won. we're going to have another election in 4 years. as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad

flappy bird, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:47 (seven years ago) link

seriously? It makes you sad? Because people are uncivil?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:49 (seven years ago) link

a reality tv star w/ no political experience just got elected leader of the free world

if anything the hysteria is way, way below where it needs to be

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:55 (seven years ago) link

we're going to have another election in 4 years.

the question is who will get to vote, once Trump's voter suppression experts have their way

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

yea even when we really try to be optimistic, is there anything we've learned about donald trump (or any of the people in his entourage) that bodes well, at all? I really don't think there is

marcos, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

xp to iatee

marcos, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

a reality tv star w/ no political experience with extremely poor self-control and an easily bruised ego, who spouts racist gibberish, while making weird hand gestures that mimic Byzantine icons.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

xp no, sorry, there isn't. at this point some are looking at sheer incompetence as a mitigating factor which is, er, not comforting

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

lol Aimless

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:05 (seven years ago) link

This is an obedience test to those who support his party. How much will his enemies within it put up?

https://storify.com/miniver/how-fascism-accumulates-power-by-testing-people

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

yeah that's not especially helpful or lucid

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link

sure it's a twitter rant but the idea of testing, pushing people def resonates w/me

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

(the idea of Trump & co. doing so, that is)

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

I underestimated what Trump could get away with and how much support he'd get during the campaign, I'd rather not underestimate what he'll do now that he's got massive amounts of power.

JoeStork, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

doesn't seem like gender and/or ethnic diversity is much of a consideration in trump's staffing

rip van wanko, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:22 (seven years ago) link

seriously? like someone said upthread, the hysteria is getting really tiresome. trump is not going to be an authoritarian. he won. we're going to have another election in 4 years. as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad

For one thing idk how good your memory is but people booed the current President during his own fucking state of the union address. For another Mike Pence would happily and with a beaming smile would send half the cast and audience of Hamilton to "gay conversion therapy" so he can choke on a bag of fucking elephant dicks. Nobody in that room or on that stage owes him anything but scorn.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:38 (seven years ago) link

xp he has four white men named Mike and zero women or nonwhite people.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

was this linked yet?

throughout the elections i've enjoyed reading Bouie more than anyone. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_democrats_are_already_screwing_up_the_trump_resistance.html

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

oh ok yeah, it was all over the place. thought i had all the messages opened.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:41 (seven years ago) link

my partner, who teaches art in NYC schools through support programs, is telling me that administrations and teachers are openly freaking the fuck out at the possibility of Trump trying to shut down the dept of education. meanwhile, kids are sensing the madness and acting out; she's seen multiple fist fights in classes. sounds dire in classrooms right now. any other teachers want to weigh in? Abbs?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

it's been mentioned before, but that remnick/nyer articler is something else. this quote alone:

“In ’08, they saw me coming, but I was a guy named Barack Hussein Obama coming up against the Clinton machine, so no way! So they weren’t focussed on me, and I established a connection. Then came the stuff: Ayers and Reverend Wright and all the rest. What I’m suggesting is that the lens through which people understand politics and politicians is extraordinarily powerful. And Trump understands the new ecosystem, in which facts and truth don’t matter. You attract attention, rouse emotions, and then move on. You can surf those emotions. I’ve said it before, but if I watched Fox I wouldn’t vote for me!”

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:22 (seven years ago) link

also, this is maybe where I think I might be able to be useful doing immediate volunteer work with computer classes and tutoring ESOL. Anybody supported Make the Road in the past? My experience with people engaging with them has been positive.
http://www.maketheroad.org/participate_jobs.php

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link

there are these heartbreaking moments of realism, things you knew everyone was thinking but wondered if he thought himself. and then, alongside it, stuff like

"Obama’s final appearance, on the eve of Election Day, was at an outdoor rally next to Independence Hall, in Philadelphia, alongside Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, and the Clintons.", switchbacks into the fugue state

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

way down the list i'd like us to retire "leader of the free world"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:53 (seven years ago) link

Texas Republicans filed a bill to force educators to narc on LGBTQ kids to their parents. Pretty much ready to just start burning shit down.

I do wonder what the backlash to Christian Coalition 2: Electric Boogaloo might look like, I feel like a lot of people got used to the progress that had seemingly been made since 2008 unless they lived in a pit like Indiana (and even then there was a DOJ fighting some of the worst of it).

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link

Nation link courtesy of a 72-year-old friend, from 2004 but still inspiring:

Looking at this catalogue of huge surprises, it’s clear that the struggle for justice should never be abandoned because of the apparent overwhelming power of those who have the guns and the money and who seem invincible in their determination to hold on to it. That apparent power has, again and again, proved vulnerable to human qualities less measurable than bombs and dollars: moral fervor, determination, unity, organization, sacrifice, wit, ingenuity, courage, patience–whether by blacks in Alabama and South Africa, peasants in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Vietnam, or workers and intellectuals in Poland, Hungary and the Soviet Union itself. No cold calculation of the balance of power need deter people who are persuaded that their cause is just.

https://www.thenation.com/article/optimism-uncertainty/

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:56 (seven years ago) link

as far as pence getting booed at Hamilton, it just makes me sad

wtf??!??!

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link

@jeremyscahill
Look folks, he's the Vice President and deserves the respect of all the gay people and Muslims and women he despises. We are America!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link


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