entirely possible, but turnout in runoff elections is notoriously low + unpredictable. you'd think some anti-Trump anger might be channeled effectively
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link
israel's ambassador shouts out bannon? http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/ron-dermer-israeli-ambassador-praises-trump-bannon-231578
― 龜, Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
I don't find that surprising. Breitbart Jerusalem, etc
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link
Sorry for the shorthand reply (in a rush)
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
Penzey's Spices guy is angry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxfw5NYVQAAEhK7.jpg
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link
the us ambassador from israel is a fucking gop humping scumbag
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link
good on him tbh xp
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link
David Remnick talks to Obama.
The official line at the White House was that the hour-and-a-half meeting with Trump went well and that Trump was solicitous. Later, when I asked Obama how things had really gone, he smiled thinly and said, “I think I can’t characterize it without . . . ” Then he stopped himself and said that he would tell me, “at some point over a beer—off the record.”
I wasn’t counting on that beer anytime soon. But after the sitdown with Trump, Obama told staff members that he had talked Trump through the rudiments of forming a cabinet and policies, including the Iran nuclear deal, counter-terrorism policy, health care—and that the President-elect’s grasp of such matters was, as the debates had made plain, modest at best. Trump, despite his habitual bluster, seemed awed by what he was being told and about to encounter.
Denis McDonough strolled by with some friends and family. The day before, the person Trump sent to debrief him about how to staff and run a White House was his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. They had taken a walk on the South Lawn.
I asked McDonough how it was going, and he gave me a death-skull grin. “Everything’s great!” he said. He clenched his teeth and grinned harder in self-mockery. McDonough is the picture of rectitude: the ramrod posture, the trimmed white hair, the ashen mien of a bishop who has missed two meals in a row. “I guess if you keep repeating it, it’s like a mantra, and it will be O.K. ‘Everything will be O.K., everything will be O.K.’ ”
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link
n the Oval Office, the President was quick to comfort the young members of his staff, but he was, an aide told me, even more concerned about the wounding effect the election would have on the categories of Americans who had been routinely insulted and humiliated by the President-elect. At a social occasion earlier this year, someone asked Michelle Obama how it was possible for her husband to maintain his equipoise amid so much hatred. “You have no idea how bad it is,” she said. His practiced calm is beyond reckoning.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link
If they both take faculty positions at a law school somewhere I might have to apply to law school
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 18 November 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link
Meanwhile, for those curious, here's a breakdown of what happened in Florida, specifically the famous I-4 corridor:
http://steveschale.squarespace.com/blog/2016/11/14/florida-2016-in-the-rearview-mirror.html
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15085475_10210931517514233_7017732641750945736_n.jpg?oh=4dabdc894a504fcc4f37e25f42f1747e&oe=588A9569
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15134529_10211195870957766_6173996564034086870_n.jpg?oh=5d922e3bc28b599a7bef6b5ca6458486&oe=58BBE662
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
man, must be heartbreaking for Obama to pass the baton to this doofus
― flopson, Friday, 18 November 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/surlyurbanist/status/799414446959435776 (via jamelle bouie)
this seems like the sort of nuanced take on the intersection of race and class (and possibly the implications on electoral politics, though i like that the tweeter didn't force himself into a definitive conclusion) that i'd like to read more of, rather than the binary-minded, blame-laying type of thinking that is much more prevalent all over the net
― k3vin k., Friday, 18 November 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link
definitely have that remnick article tabbed for later tonight
― k3vin k., Friday, 18 November 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
it's a great article. you're touched, again, by Obama's depth and resolve. And I'm dying to know what he really thought, which he says is 'off the record'
― akm, Friday, 18 November 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
Remnick article is heartbreaking
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link
Maybe the only president in 40 years I'd have a martini with and ask wtf drones
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link
yeah i think many of us had issues with the president early in his tenure, and still do, but he's a fundamentally decent man and i think all the abuse he's taken and obnoxious opposition he's had to face has softened me toward him a considerable deal
― k3vin k., Friday, 18 November 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
probably the only president since Truman to emerge from the presidency with his humanity intact too
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link
It may not survive the next two months.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link
yeahhhhh, i'm not gonna take another ban this soon.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link
Good morning!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link
you use that whenever you're "in the mood," eh
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link
Good mourning!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link
On The Pulse Of Mourning
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link
maya angelou humor never really a crowd pleaser...
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link
that poem was a cowl, yeah
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link
The Associated PressVerified account@APBREAKING: Senior official: Trump has offered retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn job as national security adviser.
― 龜, Friday, 18 November 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link
...better than secretary of defense... i suppose... ?
― 龜, Friday, 18 November 2016 02:05 (seven years ago) link
he can have an incompetence-off with condi
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 18 November 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
One of the articles about how really Trumps win was about the economy told the story that he went to Michigan and said that he would demand the Ford factory kept it's carmaking in Michigan, otherwise he'd levy a 35% tariff on imported Ford cars. How the fuck would he keep that promise? Well, he just tweeted that Ford won't move it's carmaking to Mexico. From Kentucky.
The Kentucky production was never getting moved to Mexico to begin with. Trump's known this for weeks. The Michigan cars will still move to Mexico. And none of this matters at all...
― Frederik B, Friday, 18 November 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link
read that as "officially retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn's job as national security adviser" at first
― “a tub of horses” (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 November 2016 03:21 (seven years ago) link
So uh flynn's son
http://cnn.it/2g15qZ6
― 龜, Friday, 18 November 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link
notably that position doesn't require a Senate confirmation
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 18 November 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us/politics/rudolph-giuliani-possible-cabinet-pick-faces-scrutiny-over-finances.html
In 2006, Rudolph W. Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, made $10 million from 108 speeches he delivered around the world, and more money from other projects.
― Mordy, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link
flynn got his ass fired for being a douche
― akm, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link
xpost https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxbpP45Mzw
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 November 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link
couldn't make it through that Remnick Obama piece, too sad
― flopson, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
last paragraph is really good
― iatee, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link
The Richard Rorty excerpt (from 1998) in that Reminick piece is incredible:
"Something will crack," he wrote: "The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for--someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots. . . . One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion. . . . All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."
― clemenza, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link
morelike David Rimlick
― hunangarage, Friday, 18 November 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link
So Flynn is a complete shithead: https://twitter.com/genflynn/status/703387702998278144
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 18 November 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link
Breh
https://twitter.com/genflynn/status/753772080471179264
The more shit like this happens the less I can understand giving people a pass for voting for him on the grounds they didn't realize he was a racist
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 18 November 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link
No no deej, you're crying wolf. If you're calling Flynn an islamophobe now, what will you then call a guy called who won't subsequently lie about having said those things, and then share a picture of himself eating a dürüm? Huh? And what will you do then?
― Frederik B, Friday, 18 November 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link
can't believe how badly the liberal lamestream media dropped the ball on these guys prior to 11/9.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/17/502476139/were-not-going-away-alt-right-leader-on-voice-in-trump-administration?sc=17&f=2
― cucky ramen-o (will), Friday, 18 November 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link
i was all over the Flynn stuff yesterday while the Shakey-Deej Revue was in center ring. Sad!
john r stanton@dcbigjohn
Key Clinton fundraiser Heather Podesta touts connections to Trump transition in email to corporate clients
https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/lobbyists-have-no-clue-how-theyre-going-to-work-under-a-trum?utm_term=.ivAAgmjD9P#.dqdvnzYZOe
@ggreenwald 2h2 hours ago
Glenn Greenwald Retweeted john r stanton
How can you not love the bipartisan DC lobbyist class?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
Sessions for AG (NYT)
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 18 November 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
Who knew Trump's job plan would mean giving jobs to all these unemployable losers.
Meanwhile, the interview with Mark Warner on the radio this morning about the intelligence community's checks on Trump was chilling. Not that they necessarily couldn't do it, but there was such a dark tone in his voice every time he had to say "let's hope that hypothetic does not come to pass" when asked how to would respond to an order to bring back something illegal, like torture
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link
Nytimes (and other) editorials have been working overtime, but this brings up yet another issue with his inchoate policy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/opinion/donald-trumps-plan-to-purge-the-nation.html
Observations in the piece:
Start with the fact that the target number is made up. There simply aren’t as many criminal immigrants as he imagines. According to rough estimates by the Migration Policy Institute, of the country’s 11 million unauthorized immigrants, about 820,000 have criminal records. About 300,000 of those have felony convictions and are presumably the bad people Mr. Trump is talking about. If he deports those and only those, it will be a remarkable display of law-enforcement discretion, since he said that there were lots of “terrific people” among the unauthorized who might be allowed to stay, “after the border is secured and after everything gets normalized.”And yet he also said that two million to three million would go, a population about the size of Chicago’s. He would have to haul away a lot of terrific people, and terrorize many more, to hit that mark. This would require a vast conscription of state and local law enforcement against people who pose no threat. It would mean a surge in home and workplace raids, investigations and traffic stops.It took the Obama administration eight years to deport 2.5 million immigrants. The threat of Mr. Trump chasing that number right off the bat is the reason immigrant communities are so terrified. But the damage won’t be immediate: He can’t just load two million people onto buses and planes and ship them out. He’ll first have to stuff them into the bottleneck of the immigration courts, where there are too few judges and lawyers for a swollen caseload, and fill detention cells to bursting. Mr. Trump may be unaware of due process, or in denial about it, but it exists.
And yet he also said that two million to three million would go, a population about the size of Chicago’s. He would have to haul away a lot of terrific people, and terrorize many more, to hit that mark. This would require a vast conscription of state and local law enforcement against people who pose no threat. It would mean a surge in home and workplace raids, investigations and traffic stops.
It took the Obama administration eight years to deport 2.5 million immigrants. The threat of Mr. Trump chasing that number right off the bat is the reason immigrant communities are so terrified. But the damage won’t be immediate: He can’t just load two million people onto buses and planes and ship them out. He’ll first have to stuff them into the bottleneck of the immigration courts, where there are too few judges and lawyers for a swollen caseload, and fill detention cells to bursting. Mr. Trump may be unaware of due process, or in denial about it, but it exists.
Scalzi/TPM "Trump's Razor" remains in full effect, that when in doubt, stupid prevails. Which obviously does not mean Trump can't continue to fail forward, but short of changing laws just getting anything done legal takes time once he's in office. It is just inconceivable that a man whose selfish life has been about nothing but paying for shortcuts and finding ways to hide and move money to get his way will be able to tolerate true bureaucracy. I can't even see how Trump will smoothly make the transition from private figure to public servant.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link