yeah but Moka's not wrong - it's the production I listen out for on this record (although there's nothing wrong with that). I wouldn't mind hearing what these would sound like stripped-down.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 17 November 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link
true love waits. how often do you get used to a live version and then the studio version comes along and *improves* on it. not that often i say.
― piscesx, Thursday, 17 November 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link
xxpost Hail to the Thief is great
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 17 November 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
i have no recollection what i voted for so hopefully no one else voted and i can find out
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link
or everyone will truthfully acknowledge their vote, such as i am for 'faust arp'
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link
Best Alternative Album and Best Rock Song (!) for "Burn the Witch" at the Grammy noms today
― LimbsKing, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
i listened to this once but i don't remember it at all. is it better or worse than king of limbs?
the last thing i really enjoyed from this band was in rainbows
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
If you listen to any Radiohead album just once I doubt anything will be memorable. Their songs from the 00s onwards take a couple of listens. I think I've hated everything since Kid A on first listen (well, In Rainbows was very accesible in that regard iirc) but after a couple of listens I've been on board. I still cant warm to Hail to the Thief but everything else is at least a 7/10.
― Moka, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
xp it's a billion times better than king of limbs Marcos. it's probably their best album since OKC or Kid A. takes a few listens. very chilled and monochromatic but never dull or boring
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
this is a really really good album imo
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
ok thanks all i will revisit it
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
I like the Grammy-nominated rock song Burn the Witch, but it doesn't fit into the flow of the album at all. It could have only been sequenced first because it would be even more jarring between any of the others.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
i was a big radiohead fan and enjoyed this upon first listen but kind of forgot about it rather quickly
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
Decks Dark
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
i'm still listening to this album frequently
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
Never been a huge Radiohead fan, but thought this was their strongest since Kid A, and was disappointed that the buzz about it dissipated after a few weeks. Only weak track for me was Desert Island Disk.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
Isn't this true of all albums/media these days? A few weeks is a long time. No one is talking about the Bowie album anymore, but that doesn't mean that no one is still listening.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link
Find this album a bore tbh. First three tracks and Tinker Tailor would make a sweet EP tho
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
Jordan otm. I still dig this out fairly frequently but make a point of trying not to over-listen to it.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
interesting. I thought Daydreaming would walk this. the first bit of Identikit frustrates me - sounds thin, awkward and unfinished like much of King of Limbs. I don't like how Thom puts the emphasis on "THAT we all can love / THAT we all can love"
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
that bit sounds like he's trying to crowbar lines into a melody that would have suited better lyrics
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
only 2 votes for "Ful Stop" is madness
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link
Would not have expected Identikit to win, it's not even in my top five. The 'broken hearts' choral explosion is pretty astonishing, but as others say the intro and outro are relatively weak.
― chap, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 08:43 (seven years ago) link
Thom is the worst part of Identikit but without him it sounds to me like a less interesting song from Studio (remember them?)
https://youtu.be/po8e8nftgqI
it might be one of the songs I usually skip... surprised to see it at 1
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link
Is this the third time Thom has used a chorus of repeating rain-related ad nauseum?
1. Paranoid Android (rain down come on me)2. Sit Down Stand Up (the raindrops (x100))3. Identikit (broken hearts make it rain)
Seems he really enjoys repeating the word rain.
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:06 (seven years ago) link
I'd happily hear a Radiohead cover of 'Have You Ever Seen The Rain?'
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin)
or at least their best since "some girls"
rain related songs i would listen to radiohead cover:
can't stand the rainraining bloodbuckets of rain/nuggets of rainshe brings the rainlady raincold rain & snow
rain related songs i would not listen to radiohead cover:
sound of the rainthe rain songpurple rainit's gonna rainit's a rainy day sunshine girl
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I could see them covering She Brings the Rain as they're huge Can fans and have covered them before.
They're also very much into Neil Young so:
See the sky about to rainBe the rain
Be the rain has a global warming message in there so it seems specially fitting.
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
Other Neil young songs involving rain (huh? There's more than I thought seems that NY influence on Thom is they share a rain-obsessesion):
Early Morning RainRaining in my heart
Also you guys forgot "Box of Rain" by grateful dead that's a popular one.
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
"Rain Dogs" could be good.
― chap, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
rain
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
Although hard to think of two singers more different than Thom Yorke and Tom Waits.
The rain dogs the rain dogs the rain dogs the rain dogs
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
Yeah they're very different... I'd be more interested in Waits covering Radiohead. Life in a Glasshouse and Pyramid Songs would fit him nice.
― Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Rain Dogs FTW
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
they would do a good "Rain" (Beatles) i feel
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah, definitely my fave. woulda voted for it
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 8 December 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link
Live clips I've seen of "Identikit" can feel like they have a little more energy than the studio version but I still like it a lot.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 December 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link
'Ful Stop' seems to have become my favourite track on the album now, with 'Identikit' being nudged down into second place.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link
"Decks Dark", for that little Talk Talk choral lift.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link
weekly broadcast of archival gigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJKOUQS1T4
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
In case folks didn't hear it, Radiohead eventually put "Ill Wind" (from the deluxe AMSP version) onto YouTube etc.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C7tfLhHaeU
The version of the album I essentially consider "the" version now lops off "Burn The Witch" (which doesn't fit the sound/vibe/flow of the rest of the album), and slots in "Ill Wind" in alphabetical order between "Identikit" and "The Numbers" and it works perfectly. A much more coherent and cohesive album--the Radiohead I put on most often, having listened for 26 years at this point.
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
me too
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
I dont know this album super well, nor am I a Radiohead stan so feel free to disregard my thoughts, but I'd say it's one of their least interesting. Lovely warm production, though they've been doing that a while now, great little touches, but doesnt show you anything they haven't done already, and better. Feels like a treading water effort.
― candyman, Monday, 8 March 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link
ugh, wrong
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 8 March 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
Very, very wrong.
― pomenitul, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
i talked about it a lot in some other thread but this is totally the best radiohead album imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 8 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
Nah, but it's top 5.
― pomenitul, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
i was 14 when i heard ok computer, and it definitely blew my mind. i had very few musical favorites before that, but i believe my listening diet was mostly:
- classical (cheap beethoven and mozart CDs, not For Dummies! but on that level) - especially beethoven's Eroica, over and over. - the offspring, smash- green day, dookie- rush, 2112- queen, a night at the opera- pink floyd, dark side
i bought ok computer because they were on the cover of an issue of spin that i bought at wal-mart, thinking "i can look for some new music groups to check out here". yes, i really thought like that. pre-internet, weird.ok computer blew my mind. i listened to it one million times. every single song blew my mind and was perfect and could not be skipped. if i absolutely only had time for one radiohead song at the time, i would maybe skip to lucky. or let down. or karma police. or exit music. if you're going to listen to paranoid android, you might as well just start it off with airbag so you can get that cool lead-in. you could skip to SHA, i could see that.
immediately afterward i listened to smashing pumpkins, placebo, ben folds five, dave matthews band, and dream theater.
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 03:54 (three years ago) link
if i experience an erection lasting more than 4 hours, i may contact my personal healthcare provider
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 03:56 (three years ago) link
it was around then that i met banaka
OKC a good gateway into dave
― intrusive dobro, shoeless guest (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 March 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link
in that same year, i grew from 5'0 to 5'9", and grew this one INCREDIBLY LONG PUBE, it was like the ur-pube
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link
god, i love radiohead
Fitter happierMore productiveComfortableNot drinking too muchRegular exercise at the gym (3 days a week)one INCREDIBLY LONG PUBEAt ease
― intrusive dobro, shoeless guest (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 March 2021 04:58 (three years ago) link
It’s not how OKC sounds which made it a classic album, it’s how it feels and how well its themes resonated at the time.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 15 March 2021 08:53 (three years ago) link
And yeah, stuff like “climbing up the walls” and even “fitter happier” sounded like nothing else I had ever heard in my life.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 15 March 2021 08:56 (three years ago) link
You’d have to be a HUGE music nerd if OKC sounded like something else you heard before if you were in your early teens in the pre-internet age.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 15 March 2021 08:58 (three years ago) link
I am actually a bit enraged at the suggestion that an album can’t change your life if it’s “nothing new”.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 15 March 2021 09:02 (three years ago) link
but the joke is on you - some of my best old friends always used WOAH and continue to WOAH, so in a way your post and the decisions that you've made are making me nostalgic for a simpler time
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone),
I have caught myself using WOAH outside ilx a couple of times recently so it seems the joke is indeed on me. I just never knew there was another way, you've opened my eyes Karl Malone.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:45 (three years ago) link
Time alone will tell if you've changed my life. Could be, could be.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link
Anyway I don't think I said it was nothing new? I said it conformed to expectations of what makes music "good", or what makes a "good album", and did so expertly, maybe better than any other record I've heard to date. That's not really the same thing but I already acknowledged that post hit a bum note, you know?
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link
getting into "uptown music" (Babbitt disciples like Charles Dodge and Mario Davidovsky)
Funny you should mention these guys – when I found out about the 'Idioteque' / Paul Lansky connection, I looked up Mild und leise and was woefully disappointed. At the time I was firmly in the 'early electronic music suxxx!' camp – much like Afx when he said Stockhausen should 'stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to' (which is somewhat ironic since I was too shy to dance in my teens). So yeah, you were definitely ahead of the curve there.
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link
It was propinquity, or serendipity, or both. I grew up in a neighborhood adjacent to Columbia University and had neighbors who worked with those guys. They knew I liked weird music- one of them gave me a CD of 'Philomel' for Christmas when I was 15!
I was nerdy in the pre-internet age only in the sense that I listened to middling 60's and 70's bands like Paul Revere and the Raiders at age 9 or 10 instead of Green Day and Nirvana. Kind of parochial. Def not too cool :)
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link
I was into Luc Ferrari around the time of Kid A but didn't know about any of the associated musique concrete stuff at all which is... baffling.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link
Were there samples or references to other EA compositions than mild und leise?
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link
They sample arthur krieger's 'short piece' from the same 'elctronic music winners' album. That title!!!
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
*kreiger
Oh wow, they were winning pieces in the first ISCM competition!
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
Ha!!! I didn't know.
What's the etiquette around sampling two consecutive tracks off the same record in a song? I was under the impression that sort of thing was frowned upon at the time.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
i think one is ok, two is definitely frowned upon, but if you do it three or more times it becomes something that is categorically different and maybe even better
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
relate to people upthread who say OKC felt like a pivotal life moment. it's not like i hadn't heard amazing, ambitious music by that point. i was already a fan of the bends. but OKC came out at exactly the right point: literally the day i finished my GCSEs, just as Britpop's shiny naivete was starting to fade. it felt right
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link
xp You just keep sampling more of it like you're jamming and it'll look like you meant to do it
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link