Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 23m23 minutes ago
Australia, New Zealand, and more. I am always available to them. @nytimes is just upset that they looked like fools in their coverage of me.
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 32m32 minutes ago
I have recieved and taken calls from many foreign leaders despite what the failing @nytimes said. Russia, U.K., China, Saudi Arabia, Japan,
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 36m36 minutes ago
The failing @nytimes story is so totally wrong on transition. It is going so smoothly. Also, I have spoken to many foreign leaders.

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
I am not trying to get "top level security clearance" for my children. This was a typically false news story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html

this is the worst gritty reboot of BEING THERE ever

I hope he stays petulant and infantile for four years.

Last November, for instance, Trump said he was concerned that foreign students attending Ivy League schools have to return home because of U.S. immigration laws.

“We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country,” Trump said. He paused. Bannon said, “Um.”

“I think you agree with that,” Trump said. “Do you agree with that?”

Bannon was hesitant.

“When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”

also bannon uses "hombres" at one point. glad to see talk radio is around to not only be its own swampy morass, but to reveal this turd's truer colors

Seriously, why even bother having press conferences with some spokesperson lying or obfuscating? I'd much rather Dear Leader do it himself over twitter. Just wait until the stakes get higher and it gets more surreal.

"My administration did not approve the low-interest loan from China to open a new casino on the moon. But it is such a great casino, you should all go. All American visitors on July 4th get 10% off their first night and a free drink coupon!"

"I welcome Russia's maneuvers in the Atlantic, having them closer to us makes them easier to watch, and saves money on long distance phone calls. Smart!"

"Don't believe what you read about Aleppo, there were not nearly as many dead children as the failing nytimes claimed, and they were bad children!"

Seeing Bannon use the phrase 'civic society' just made me barf in my lap.

TS: trump marking distinction between "talented people" and unworthy working class immigrants who deserve immediate deportation vs. steve bannon's white suprematist social engineering.

i'll give the point to trump here but i am still grossed out by the carelessness with which he talks about millions of immigrants. "they're not sending their best people."

is it just me or does bannon look like he has a serious booze problem

I hope he stays petulant and infantile for four years.

Trump believes that being a giant manbaby on Twitter is what won him the election, why stop now?

am i the only one shocked by how few retweets/likes he gets? he's arguably the most famous person in the world right now but he gets twitter love on the level of, a, say, pete wentz

xxpost Yeah, he looks like he's moments away from dropping his XXX bottle and rubbing his eyes in disbelief in the midst of incessant hiccupping.

*hic*

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/10/Stephen-K.-Bannon-Ohio-Rally-Sept-14-Getty-640x480.jpg

Trump believes that being a giant manbaby on Twitter is what won him the election, why stop now?

yep and approx half the country either loves him for it or just wants everybody to be calm and give him a chance you guys!!

I cannot fathom how bad things will get before these millions of pig-headed adult babies recognize that this is an unmitigated disaster.
actually, it probably doesn't matter what actually happens any more. they'll rationalize it away and embed themselves ever deeper in the bubble idiocy.

*of idiocy

am i the only one shocked by how few retweets/likes he gets? he's arguably the most famous person in the world right now but he gets twitter love on the level of, a, say, pete wentz

He's only at 15m followers which is...nearly the same amount as Kevin Durant. He's currently being beaten by: Jim Carrey, Ricky Martin, Christina Aguilera, Leonardo DiCaprio, Chris Brown, Blake Shelton, Coldplay, Ashton Kutcher, Avril Lavigne, Eminem, Conan O' Brien, Pitbull, Daniel Tosh, Neil Patrick Harris, Pink, Bill Gates, J-Lo, and every single Kardashian/Jenner and member of One Direction. (Barack Obama is at 79.4 million)

I really think the only thing that could change the tide is if Fox became hyper-critical of him, like Obama levels.

but god knows something just as bad or worse would spring up in its wake.

has Robert Redford been cast as Bannon in the Trump biopic?

I read that Pizza the Hutt just beat him out.

he looks definitely unhealthy.

The bright side of this nightmare is that half of the Trump administration is probably like one good scare away from cardiac arrest.

trump's thin skin is just remarkable. he's a one-man rapid response team. could he be disabled by the press equivalent of a DDOS attack??

despite trump's doctor's memorably ringing endorsement to the contrary, i'm honestly not sure trump has the physical fortitude to make it through four years as president

i'm calling it now - dead of a coronary by 2018

could he be disabled by the press equivalent of a DDOS attack??

Forget the press, I can imagine some independent DDOS doing it. Hell, I can imagine him becoming the first president felled by a phishing scam. That's why he wants to bring his kids on board, to help him get on the internet and check his email.

This is a man who has had the freedom to do exactly what he wants to do and live however he wants to live for his entire adult life, and because of his fundamental incuriosity, I'm sure he never considered that that level of freedom simply doesn't apply to the most powerful office in the country. And because he gets bent out of shape over the tiniest slight, yeah, I can see this being a huge source of stress for him. And that's before you even take into consideration the awesome weight of responsibility and the massive workload, etc. I can see him keeling over from an aneurysm from a tantrum over not being allowed to sleep in his own gold-plated bed every night.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/16/13641538/trump-plane-secret-service

kind of a Shakespeareian tragedy, isn't it?

Can't knock the hustle

Frederik is actually a pretty good spokesman for the elite liberal ratfuck that just got their asses handed to them--quadruple down on the stupid, folks, it worked so well for y'all in the general. But be honest, Frederik, you wrote that Lenny Letter, didn't you?

This is a man who has had the freedom to do exactly what he wants to do and live however he wants to live for his entire adult life, and because of his fundamental incuriosity, I'm sure he never considered that that level of freedom simply doesn't apply to the most powerful office in the country. And because he gets bent out of shape over the tiniest slight, yeah, I can see this being a huge source of stress for him. And that's before you even take into consideration the awesome weight of responsibility and the massive workload, etc. I can see him keeling over from an aneurysm from a tantrum over not being allowed to sleep in his own gold-plated bed every night.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:27 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again i'm not sure why we would think trump would take any of the demands of the role seriously. if he wants to just go to mar-a-lago or trump tower every night he will, he doesn't really give a shit

Frederik is actually a pretty good spokesman for the elite liberal ratfuck that just got their asses handed to them

― Iago Galdston, 16. november 2016 15:40 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Glad you think so, then at least I'm informative. You, on the other hand, are a piss poor spokesman for anything, your cowardice keeps you from putting forth anything but troll messages to others. You're worthless.

I've said before that I'd be more than happy to see some dissenting voices that were actually willing to engage in a discussion about this stuff, but Iago has done nothing but troll throughout this election and he clearly intends to continue that trend. I heartily support the mods threadbanning him from every political thread.

For the umpty-leventh time, the threadban function does not work.

i think it's >60% likely Trump will not serve the full 4 years, for voluntary reasons or not

but then he's not the whole problem

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/15/mike-pence-will-be-the-most-powerful-christian-supremacist-in-us-history/

The obvious bright thing is that he's alienating a generation of future voters, and hastening the end of GOP dominated state/local politics.

The only bright thing this week is Zuckerberg deciding to block the Macedonian sites spreading calumnies on Facebook. If social media recognizes they have a responsibility, then
it might force a lot of well-meaning aunts and grandmothers out of their bubble.

been seeing this go around as well, it's a start at least:

False, Misleading, Clickbait-y, and/or Satirical “News” Sources

i'm currently terrified that trump is going to mobilize his people to vote in trump surrogates in the midterms, and we'll get repeats of events like david brat taking down eric cantor

hey so somebody in another thread told me to shut the fuck up so i wrote an etiquette guide on the topic.

I'm kind of curious if I'm being sub-ilxed here, as that's not really what I was saying.

― Andrew Farrell

eh i don't know what "being sub-ilxed" means but whatever you said it's not a problem. :)

the good thing about being a reasonably tightly-knit community like this place is that we all pretty much know how who to ignore. far as i can tell the main result of iago's constant shit-stirring is occasional reminders from other posters that folks should ignore him.

i'm currently terrified that trump is going to mobilize his people to vote in trump surrogates in the midterms, and we'll get repeats of events like david brat taking down eric cantor

― 龜, Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:23 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark

in conjunction with

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/the-far-right-is-a-meme

People need to be less terrified by that prospect and be more active in mobilizing their own folks. Like now. I keep walking by the empty Dem office in my city and thinking, do they need me to take this shit over?

Low-information voters, an example, via digby:

There are a ton of numbers floating around right now about everything but this one actually made me laugh out loud. From Gallup:

Just 16% of Republicans said the economy was getting better in the week before the election, while 81% said it was getting worse. Since the election, 49% say it is getting better and 44% worse.

It's a miracle! He's not even in office and it's already getting better! 33% better!

Keith Ellison just endorsed by Elizabeth Warren for DNC chair!

i thought he was running himself?

seriously god bless anybody who has the fortitude and the patience for incrementalism. i don't. there's no polite way for me to say the things i feel like i need to say.

I think "deep canvassing" is increasingly going to become an established thing. It works here and there, but it does work.

if the Dem's response to this is to install Dean and Schumer, i think it's reasonable to abandon hope

Read more carefully: Ellison is running!

2018 looks p bad for Dems iirc. it'd be nice to have a comprehensive list of at-risk seats, as well as seats that *could* potentially flip our way, given an adequate infusion of cash & volunteering.

can someone give me the summary on why ppl are so excited by keith ellison? everything i've read about him is either identity politics or controversial statements (comparing gwb to hitler or being pro nation of islam). does he have bonafide left-wing economic acheivements that i can read about somewhere?

My fave quote of the week may be from the otherwise polite Trump supporter in the Times article about this election tearing families apart, cancelling Thanksgiving/weddings etc.:

As for racism and Mr. Trump, she said, “I don’t think there’s any proof of that.” She added: “I will say that, in his generation, those old guys, most of them kind of lean towards,” and then she paused. “It was a white world.”

I don't think he's racist, it's just that he comes from a generation when everyone was totally racist, so it's not really racism, it's just how it was, I mean come on.