Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

posted upthread :)

Fuck idk even know. I'm just is such a rage atm and I hate this fucker so damn much any every idiot that voted for him.

lol at "ted cruz's deep love of the constitution"

he particularly loves the 2 ply version

his go-to when he runs out of athletic socks

http://www.action-force.dk/cobra/figures/serpentor/serpentor-filecard.jpg

don't blink or you'll miss em
http://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-expert-mike-rogers-leaves-trump-transition-team-amid-shake-up-1479221847

should staff the cabinet with all reality stars

Trump appoints horse to Secretary of Defense

Trump appoints Norman Schwarzkopf to Secretary of Treasury

(one week later)

Trump team learns Cabinet appointees must be living, learns Schwarzkopf has been dead for 4 yrs

bahahahahaha

Fuck idk even know. I'm just is such a rage atm and I hate this fucker so damn much any every idiot that voted for him.

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

I like to imagine Trump realizing just how far out of his depth he is, panicking, and feigning a health crisis that forces him to resign, disappearing from public view swiftly thereafter, retreating to Mar-a-Lago to live out his days as a semi-invalid suffering from dementia, leaving the republic in even greater disarray but safe at least from his special brand of depredations.

the meetings have got to be a total shitshow

I finally had the talk with my mom on facetime today (she lives near Bham, Al). I had been hoping that her disdain for disgusting men like Trump would overrule her disdain for corporate elitists like Hillary enough for her to write in Ben Carson or something but the right wing talking point bubble that she lives in has fully taken hold of her. She's usually able to articulate her thoughts about things well (she's an accountant and has been known to talk my ear off about credit union profit equity laws or w/e) but when she started talking about Hillary she wasn't even forming complete sentences, just stuttering shards of talking points like a 12 year-old trying to justify why he had to throw a rock at the other kid. It was sad and disappointing and she straight up shocked me in an exchange when I asked her what Obama had done that was so horrible and she said "Obamacare" and I said "yeah, I wish we just had a socialist single-payer system" and she said "well that's what we have, a socialist system, that's why it's so expensive" and I had to use wikipedia to prove to her that all the top insurance companies are for-profit. She's usually the first to admit it when she's totally ignorant of a subject matter but when it comes to right-wing media topics she completely falls into that stupid "skeptical=smart" trap and argues for ridiculous falsehood until she says "well you believe what you believe and I believe what I believe" like there's no such thing as facts.

I dunno; I've tried to resist directly attacking people head on, and try to shift them by a few degrees at a time.

That's mainly the route that I took today. I wasn't even the one who brought up the election but she seemed compelled to defend her vote (she knows where I stand politically). I'm hoping that by asking a few non-pointed questions and rebutting them with a fact here and there I can slowly whittle away at her certainty about these foolish positions but I don't talk to her as much as local Bham morning DJs do on her commute so I'm not sure if it's wasted effort. I've tried prodding her about climate change over the years, hoping that as studies and evidence and international consensus continue to pile up she'll start to believe it's real and man-made but she still brings up that one time those scientist emails leaked about maybe skewing the results of one study.

Jeb Lund posted this fun timeline today, wondering if the fuckery would be reported on by media types with the same zeal as "the Obamacare website doesn't work!1" but wasn't holding his breath

http://i.imgur.com/2JCUAjN.jpg

Climate Change is one of those things that is a perfect storm(sorry) of falling into the cracks of human risk perception.

David Roberts writes about this kinda thing, that it won't becomes tenable for them until it slowly or quietly becomes an acceptable idea for members of consertivate tribal identity.

How long before Trump goes "You're fired" (preferably before cameras) on a cabinet member?

it's sad to have beliefs and principles and stuff

Yeah, too bad his "I'm against stupid wars" one didn't stick.

and presumably the things he taught in constitutional law class

Yeah, to hell with Obama and his stupid wars in Syria, Ukraine and Bulgaria. And what about his invasion of Barbados, huh? How stupid was that? Not to mention the war in Samoa, I mean, it'll take years to make up for that blunder. And also, we all know he orchestrated a secret invasion in Honduras, but did you know the real purpose of that was to create a bridgehead to conquer Guatemala and Belize? It's true.

The Guardian asked 10 people to read "the other side's" Facebook news feeds for a month:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/16/facebook-bias-bubble-us-election-conservative-liberal-news-feed

Warning: found it interesting but not making me feel any more hopeful about anything.

(Prob not the best thread, do we have a "media bubble" thread?)

Fred, you still are an embarrassment

"We're lucky if Trump becomes the new normal. There's no countervailing force against the direction Trump demonstrates we're heading in, so why on earth it would it get any better. Magic? I get why people want to make themselves feel better about this, but c'mon, this isn't going anywhere good.

― larry appleton"

larry, we're the countervailing force. and yes, that's fucking terrifying.

"I dunno; I've tried to resist directly attacking people head on, and try to shift them by a few degrees at a time.

― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish)"

seriously god bless anybody who has the fortitude and the patience for incrementalism. i don't. there's no polite way for me to say the things i feel like i need to say.

also, fred, morbz, get a room

"seriously god bless anybody who has the fortitude and the patience for incrementalism. i don't. there's no polite way for me to say the things i feel like i need to say."

whoops didn't c&p the second paragraph:

yes, i worry that i'm sending my friends and relatives right into the arms of steve bannon, that if i make them choose that's what they'll choose. but i'm more afraid of continuing to give people the luxury of pretending not to choose.

hey so somebody in another thread told me to shut the fuck up so i wrote an etiquette guide on the topic.

I'm kind of curious if I'm being sub-ilxed here, as that's not really what I was saying.

For advice on building Mr. Trump’s national security team, his inner circle has been relying on three hawkish current and former American officials: Representative Devin Nunes, Republican of California, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee; Peter Hoekstra, a former Republican congressman and former chairman of the Intelligence Committee; and Frank Gaffney, a Pentagon official during the Reagan administration and a founder of the Center for Security Policy.

Mr. Gaffney has long advanced baseless conspiracy theories, including that President Obama might be a closet Muslim. The Southern Poverty Law Center described him as “one of America’s most notorious Islamophobes.”

cool

she still brings up that one time those scientist emails leaked about maybe skewing the results of one study.

feel the need to point out here that the actual number of times this happened was zero

This morning I told my wife about his "Only I know the finalists!" tweet, and she laughed harder than I'd heard in days. I think that may be the secret to survival. I (we? everyone?) needs to go full "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" with this administration, because shit is going to get dark and stupid and ridiculous, but I'm going to stay relatively powerless, and I've got to be able to just laugh at it all. I'll protest, and I'll donate, and I'll stay engaged and involved, and obviously if any of his most horrid mouth shits in the tub truly float to the surface I'll be angry, but for the sake of personal sanity I have to just be able to look at the insanity of it all and recognize it for what it is. It's like getting a history book where someone has doodled dicks on ever page that animate when you flip the corners. It's bad, but you've also got to chuckle at such dedication to the wrong thing.

I mean, come on, "only I know the finalists!" That's where we're at. That's dada. That's selling gold-plated poop.

Anyway, no one answered me: does this mean that Trump's kids and whoever else he wants have the same top security clearance that he has? I assume he asked for this so that they can read things for him, but does this mean he got what he asked for and they have clearance? (gtfo Giuliani, "what else are they going to do for 4 years, be employed?" get real).

wow

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 23m23 minutes ago
Australia, New Zealand, and more. I am always available to them. @nytimes is just upset that they looked like fools in their coverage of me.
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 32m32 minutes ago
I have recieved and taken calls from many foreign leaders despite what the failing @nytimes said. Russia, U.K., China, Saudi Arabia, Japan,
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 36m36 minutes ago
The failing @nytimes story is so totally wrong on transition. It is going so smoothly. Also, I have spoken to many foreign leaders.

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
I am not trying to get "top level security clearance" for my children. This was a typically false news story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html

this is the worst gritty reboot of BEING THERE ever

I hope he stays petulant and infantile for four years.

Last November, for instance, Trump said he was concerned that foreign students attending Ivy League schools have to return home because of U.S. immigration laws.

“We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country,” Trump said. He paused. Bannon said, “Um.”

“I think you agree with that,” Trump said. “Do you agree with that?”

Bannon was hesitant.

“When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”

also bannon uses "hombres" at one point. glad to see talk radio is around to not only be its own swampy morass, but to reveal this turd's truer colors

Seriously, why even bother having press conferences with some spokesperson lying or obfuscating? I'd much rather Dear Leader do it himself over twitter. Just wait until the stakes get higher and it gets more surreal.

"My administration did not approve the low-interest loan from China to open a new casino on the moon. But it is such a great casino, you should all go. All American visitors on July 4th get 10% off their first night and a free drink coupon!"

"I welcome Russia's maneuvers in the Atlantic, having them closer to us makes them easier to watch, and saves money on long distance phone calls. Smart!"

"Don't believe what you read about Aleppo, there were not nearly as many dead children as the failing nytimes claimed, and they were bad children!"

Seeing Bannon use the phrase 'civic society' just made me barf in my lap.

TS: trump marking distinction between "talented people" and unworthy working class immigrants who deserve immediate deportation vs. steve bannon's white suprematist social engineering.

i'll give the point to trump here but i am still grossed out by the carelessness with which he talks about millions of immigrants. "they're not sending their best people."

is it just me or does bannon look like he has a serious booze problem

I hope he stays petulant and infantile for four years.

Trump believes that being a giant manbaby on Twitter is what won him the election, why stop now?

am i the only one shocked by how few retweets/likes he gets? he's arguably the most famous person in the world right now but he gets twitter love on the level of, a, say, pete wentz

xxpost Yeah, he looks like he's moments away from dropping his XXX bottle and rubbing his eyes in disbelief in the midst of incessant hiccupping.

*hic*

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/10/Stephen-K.-Bannon-Ohio-Rally-Sept-14-Getty-640x480.jpg

Trump believes that being a giant manbaby on Twitter is what won him the election, why stop now?

yep and approx half the country either loves him for it or just wants everybody to be calm and give him a chance you guys!!

I cannot fathom how bad things will get before these millions of pig-headed adult babies recognize that this is an unmitigated disaster.
actually, it probably doesn't matter what actually happens any more. they'll rationalize it away and embed themselves ever deeper in the bubble idiocy.

*of idiocy

am i the only one shocked by how few retweets/likes he gets? he's arguably the most famous person in the world right now but he gets twitter love on the level of, a, say, pete wentz

He's only at 15m followers which is...nearly the same amount as Kevin Durant. He's currently being beaten by: Jim Carrey, Ricky Martin, Christina Aguilera, Leonardo DiCaprio, Chris Brown, Blake Shelton, Coldplay, Ashton Kutcher, Avril Lavigne, Eminem, Conan O' Brien, Pitbull, Daniel Tosh, Neil Patrick Harris, Pink, Bill Gates, J-Lo, and every single Kardashian/Jenner and member of One Direction. (Barack Obama is at 79.4 million)

I really think the only thing that could change the tide is if Fox became hyper-critical of him, like Obama levels.

but god knows something just as bad or worse would spring up in its wake.