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― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
in other news, halfway there:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-people-ask-president-obama-immediately-appoint-merrick-garland-supreme-court
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
ha i did sign earlier today but whoever said it was depressing to see the other "popular petitions" there was otm. eg "We the people ask congress to meet in emergency session about removing George Soros owned voting machines from 16 states. 131,140 SIGNED. 100,000 GOAL"
― marcos, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
the internet is a scary place
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
I'd figure the numbers on Trump's promises will start to add up quick. You got to figure it would cost probably 2-3 billion to try and deport 2-3 million people. That would only be a cost of legal and logistics of $1000 a case and I would figure that it could cost lots more per case than that.― earlnash, Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:15 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In addition to the cost, there's also huge procedural burdens. Many immigrants have limited due process rights. While there's situations where 'expedited removal' is available -- prior removal orders, proximity to the border, length of time in the U.S., many people have the right to see an immigration judge, especially some of the people Trump is talking about i.e. those that have been here for a while but also have a criminal record. Currently there's a little less than 400 immigration judges benched -- 2 million people is a potential caseload of 5000 per judge. It takes years to work through the process.
― soma's little yelpers (lion in winter), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
popular vote deficit passed 1 mill! lol mandate
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:40 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hopefully the dems can use this as a weapon against mcconnell's bullshit 'the voters need a voice in the new supreme court pick'
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries),
really? just like in W's first term?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
interesting stats lion
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:26 PM (fifty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It just makes me wonder if he's serious, what they'd plan to do to make removal easier. Obviously any legislative change in that regard is going to draw court challenges. Because I think, with those numbers, you'd have to bench half the immigration lawyers in the U.S. to achieve your goal. And they're not going to do it.
― soma's little yelpers (lion in winter), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/15/new-york-trump-buildings-trump-place-name-removed?CMP=share_btn_tw
lol
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
of course he isn't serious, he never thought any of this shit through
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
signed that Garland petition and then saw this one that is much closer: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-garland-now-senate-has-waived-its-rights
― rob, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link
whoah what the hell? that's a reversal from just a couple days ago. I think there are three, I signed them all
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
I've never looked into this process before, does someone at the WH really have to write an email like "Guys, free speech" to that YG one
― rob, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
probably
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
that's what interns are for!
if there's some other avenue to get Obama to take this idea seriously I'd happily pursue it but idk what it is
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
tombot xp except that border patrol guy.. you mad bc the budget's been slashed? pretty sure thats not entirely obama's fault
and the only reason the border patrol endorsed this clown was they'd get unlimited budget money forever. its all they care about.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
i signed the petitions but obama ain't gonna do shit. it's not in his nature
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
if mitt romney or whoever had won this election I would be cool with this but I really don't want to give trump any precedent for pushing the boundaries in the constitution
I mean he's gonna do it regardless but this would make it easier
― iatee, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link
obama should've bluffed by outright saying "approve MG now, or I appoint someone 2x as liberal as lame-duck"
― flopson, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link
Have to admit this infighting/purging gives me a little bit of hope
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link
speaking of which https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/15/sen-rand-paul-says-neither-giuliani-nor-bolton-would-get-his-vote-for-secretary-of-state/
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/602/the-sun-comes-up
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link
Oh boy
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/11/14/was-election-vote-against-hamilton/HAT5A4m3msG6m8pPORbknL/story.html
OPINION | NIALL FERGUSONWas the election a vote against ‘Hamilton’?
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link
Have we already shared this, from Elizabeth Warren?
http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/2016-11-15-Trump_Letter.pdf
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link
Trump: tl/dr
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link
We're lucky if Trump becomes the new normal. There's no countervailing force against the direction Trump demonstrates we're heading in, so why on earth it would it get any better. Magic? I get why people want to make themselves feel better about this, but c'mon, this isn't going anywhere good.
― larry appleton, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link
if I was given the opportunity to vote against 'hamilton' I would
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link
ugh sen warren's office needs a better scanner
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
Even 1 in 12 African-Americans voted Republican this year.
That sounds much better than 8.3%, I guess?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link
god fuck off niall ferguson you nauseating henry kissinger apologist with your "this is how democracy is meant to work" bullshit
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link
lol!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/11/15/give-steve-bannon-a-chance-its-not-like-hes-literally-joseph-goebbels/?utm_term=.e298062f6c7a
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link
also, why oh why isn't her column called The Petri Dish?
Our leaders, political, business, and otherwise, who are telling us to accept this as the new normal are the same people who are trying to gut our salaries, slash even more of our benefits, and have no particular issue with throwing us in the garbage when they're done with us. If they could sell our souls to hell for a couple of dollars, they wouldn't even blink at it. So yeah, let's listen to these guys, they're looking after us, they care.
Washington Post is Amazon owned, and they don't give a fuck that they literally kill people with their work practices. You think these people are gonna share the love with all of you?
― larry appleton, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Nevermind, that article was being ironic.
― larry appleton, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
ha, yeah it was.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
i laughed.
Have to admit this infighting/purging gives me a little bit of hope― 龜, Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 龜, Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
part of me thinks this way but the other part of me sees this as an authoritarian purging his staff of all remaining moderates in favor of loyalists
― qop (crüt), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
man, the Paul boys might be the most insidious of the white nationalists. So many otherwise decent people think Ron, most of all, is just a happy lil country doctor who doesn't want to interfere with your drugs and guns.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
I played quiz bowl against Alexandra Petri when I was in high school, I just want to mention that somewhere
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link
I have no doubt that a real racist sexist chauvinist white supremacist will be easy to spot. “I am coming for minorities now,” he will say. “I am an actual racist. I am, literally, Hitler, or at the very least Goebbels.”
I'll take the chuckle anywhere I can get it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link
An excellent philosophy to live yr life by imo.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link
As good as any Onion response and even better for being in a msm daily, kiu
― imago, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link
more on foster campbell's senate chances in louisiana
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/campaign/305812-democrats-have-one-final-shot-to-flip-a-senate-seat
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/republican-john-kennedy-has-advantage-in-runoff-senate-race
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah obama believes way too much in acting in service of governmental norms, even when the other side is radically violating them
― Clay, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 02:27 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798721142525665280
Donald J. TrumpVerified account@realDonaldTrumpVery organized process taking place as I decide on Cabinet and many other positions. I am the only one who knows who the finalists are!
9:55 PM - 15 Nov 2016
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
To be revealed on the next episode of Government Apprentice!
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link
it's sad to have beliefs and principles and stuff
― j., Wednesday, 16 November 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link
i'm not saying it's not, it's just that everyone who is clinging to the idea that he would try to sneakily slip garland while the senate is looking the other way is missing the nature of who obama is imo
― Clay, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link
agreed
― j., Wednesday, 16 November 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link